Why I'm supporting Weir

[MBoreman]

Admittedly part of me is wondering why I still am, but here's some reasoning.
1) I've seen enough glimpses of good football to think there's still a glimmer of hope.
2) He's brought in the right kind of players, although he hasn't made them perform.
3) If no one wanted to come at the start of the season who would now? Any managers free are failures, has-beens or inexperienced like Weir.
4) He saw what worked against Crawley and stuck with it - something Wilson often didn't do.
5) He's respected in football which will benefit the club as a whole.
6) I'm a supporter, it's kind of in the name.

 

[Lampiao]

Admittedly part of me is wondering why I still am, but here's some reasoning.
1) I've seen enough glimpses of good football to think there's still a glimmer of hope.
2) He's brought in the right kind of players, although he hasn't made them perform.
3) If no one wanted to come at the start of the season who would now? Any managers free are failures, has-beens or inexperienced like Weir.
4) He saw what worked against Crawley and stuck with it - something Wilson often didn't do.
5) He's respected in football which will benefit the club as a whole.
6) I'm a supporter, it's kind of in the name.

1) I've missed the good football, all I've seen is losing football - last night was dire from start to finish
2) The right type of players who can't score, have no pace, can't pass accurately, and ultimately if the managers style is good either are poor or can't follow the managers instructions.
3) All managers are ultimately failures, it's very rare to get a manager who has success, success, success. Lets face it this guy is the wrong man, at the wrong time.
4) We scramble a draw against what was a very ordinary Div 1 side, the first half was a dire as dire can be, second half was adequate, but we lacked composure and penetration, there certainly was no sustained pressure on opposition. Crawley should have been out of sight with 2 or 3 more goals first half, the fact they weren't was down to how poor they were not how good we were. If he stuck with it the last nights offering was asrubbish as anything this season and we never looked like getting a result against a team in bottom half of Div 2.
5) Who say's he's respected - don't believe everything you read in the sun, most people in football probably don't care.
6) Ditto, but difference I seems to be is that I want a winning team, and given that United are amongst the top income earners in this division, top wage payers, and after years of "promise", "promise" "promise" from a board of directors of varying styles, what we have at the moment is just not good enough but an absolute bloody disgrace.

Regardless of the Weir supporters I see no signs of it getting better, and last night was as bad as anything we've seen this season. I really cant see this team under this management improving.

What was also telling for me was that sat almost behind the dugout last night that Weir and Carsley spent 95% of the second half with their hands in their pockets. There seemed to be very little instructions being passed to the players, and they seemed to be happy to just be spectators on the sidelines. I don't want to go back to the head slapping days of Warnock, but the lack of touchline animation doesn't fill me with the confidence that we have a manager who has the slightest concern for the position the team and club finds itself in.

So all in all GET HIM OUT NOW!!

 

[1889]

You can't dispute his credentials and on paper he should be a great manager. What I think he's lacking is the right personality. The manager has to create the right environment to build a strong team spirit and make the dressing room a great place to be.

He always comes across as boring, emotionless, monotone and totally devoid of passion and that's exactly replicated in how his team performs.

I think that's just the way he is and it will always be his downfall. Whilst I'm not suggesting that he lights his farts or turns up on a unicycle, I do think he desperately needs to inject some sort of spark about the place. I'm just pleased he isn't my boss, the miserable twat.

UTB

 

[davidpinder]

Admittedly part of me is wondering why I still am, but here's some reasoning.
1) I've seen enough glimpses of good football to think there's still a glimmer of hope.
2) He's brought in the right kind of players, although he hasn't made them perform.
3) If no one wanted to come at the start of the season who would now? Any managers free are failures, has-beens or inexperienced like Weir.
4) He saw what worked against Crawley and stuck with it - something Wilson often didn't do.
5) He's respected in football which will benefit the club as a whole.
6) I'm a supporter, it's kind of in the name.

Bit early isn't it?? if you can not score against Hartlepool there is a serious problem

 

[Droppingwell]

Agree with the opening post completely. Stick with him. United fans seem to love the idea of sacking and constantly changing managers. Warnock was getting grief from the fans when we had a couple of seasons finishing 8th in the championship. But the club stuck by him and he got us promoted. Even Robson who had plenty of money to spend was given until February. Sacking Weir would just be more short term thinking - but that is how football fans think these days.

 

[Coily]

Admittedly part of me is wondering why I still am, but here's some reasoning.
1) I've seen enough glimpses of good football to think there's still a glimmer of hope.
2) He's brought in the right kind of players, although he hasn't made them perform.
3) If no one wanted to come at the start of the season who would now? Any managers free are failures, has-beens or inexperienced like Weir.
4) He saw what worked against Crawley and stuck with it - something Wilson often didn't do.
5) He's respected in football which will benefit the club as a whole.
6) I'm a supporter, it's kind of in the name.

Fair dos on your view, but there is sadly nothing that suggests even slightly that this situation is going to get any better. It's not just losing, it's the inability to create chances and the inability to keep clean sheets with a unit that used to keep them for fun. What is also unacceptable is that opposition teams are working harder than us.

Since Notts County: 1-2, 1-3, 1-1, 0-2, 0-1, 0-0, 1-3, 0-1, 0-1, 0-2, 1-1, 0-1.

P 12 W 0 D 3 L 9 GF 5 GA 18

 

[Selly]

Admittedly part of me is wondering why I still am, but here's some reasoning.
1) I've seen enough glimpses of good football to think there's still a glimmer of hope.
2) He's brought in the right kind of players, although he hasn't made them perform.
3) If no one wanted to come at the start of the season who would now? Any managers free are failures, has-beens or inexperienced like Weir.
4) He saw what worked against Crawley and stuck with it - something Wilson often didn't do.
5) He's respected in football which will benefit the club as a whole.
6) I'm a supporter, it's kind of in the name.

7) You are insane

 

[Selly]

1) I've seen enough glimpses of good football to think there's still a glimmer of hope.

There may be a glimmer of hope, but there is also the great hulking black cloud of relegation as well

2) He's brought in the right kind of players, although he hasn't made them perform.

And from his past management career we can see that time after time he has turned around poorly performing player. Whats that? Oh...

3) If no one wanted to come at the start of the season who would now? Any managers free are failures, has-beens or inexperienced like Weir.

We, apparently, have much parger resources that at the start of the season.

4) He saw what worked against Crawley and stuck with it - something Wilson often didn't do.

Wilson had us in the top 6 constantly. What works against one team doesn`t work against the next. And I wouldn`t call a 1-1- home draw with Crawley "working"

5) He's respected in football which will benefit the club as a whole.

So was Robson

6) I'm a supporter, it's kind of in the name.

Support the club, not the man...

 

[JJ Sefton]

Admittedly part of me is wondering why I still am, but here's some reasoning.
1) I've seen enough glimpses of good football to think there's still a glimmer of hope.
2) He's brought in the right kind of players, although he hasn't made them perform.
3) If no one wanted to come at the start of the season who would now? Any managers free are failures, has-beens or inexperienced like Weir.
4) He saw what worked against Crawley and stuck with it - something Wilson often didn't do.
5) He's respected in football which will benefit the club as a whole.
6) I'm a supporter, it's kind of in the name.

Morning Mr Weir.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Agree with the opening post completely. Stick with him. United fans seem to love the idea of sacking and constantly changing managers. Warnock was getting grief from the fans when we had a couple of seasons finishing 8th in the championship. But the club stuck by him and he got us promoted. Even Robson who had plenty of money to spend was given until February. Sacking Weir would just be more short term thinking - but that is how football fans think these days.

Waiting until Feb was a big part of the problem.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Fair dos on your view, but there is sadly nothing that suggests even slightly that this situation is going to get any better. It's not just losing, it's the inability to create chances and the inability to keep clean sheets with a unit that used to keep them for fun. What is also unacceptable is that opposition teams are working harder than us.

Since Notts County: 1-2, 1-3, 1-1, 0-2, 0-1, 0-0, 1-3, 0-1, 0-1, 0-2, 1-1, 0-1.

P 12 W 0 D 3 L 9 GF 5 GA 18

But we're doing it the right way!

 

[Worksop_Blade]

Braintree Town FC vs Sheffield United FC is a very real possibility, and you want to stick by him?

 

[Darren]

Agree with the opening post completely. Stick with him. United fans seem to love the idea of sacking and constantly changing managers. Warnock was getting grief from the fans when we had a couple of seasons finishing 8th in the championship. But the club stuck by him and he got us promoted. Even Robson who had plenty of money to spend was given until February. Sacking Weir would just be more short term thinking - but that is how football fans think these days.

Warnock, as you say had us competing for the play offs in the 2nd tier.
Robson had us around mid table in the 2nd tier.
Weir has us stuck in the relegation zone in the 3rd tier averaging 0.5 points a game = 23 over the season and relegated by 25 points.

Do you see the crucial difference?

 

[Ted Danson]

Morning Mr Weir.

Just what I have been thinking of this poster. Id like to out Droppingwell as mr Carsley too. Or maybe Winter.

Seems like theres a few recent members who are very positive for some strange reason. Its like your both stuck on a railway line with a locomotive flying straight at you and yet you both seem to think it will turn a corner and miss you even though your in the middle of the tracks.

got to be either piggies, insane or current members of the hierarchy at the lane.

Weir out! Carsley out! Winter out! THE WHOLE BLOODY LOT OF YOU OUT!

 

[bladesadviser]

if Weir is allowed to stay until Feb then we will go down because it will be too late to do anything about it

 

[pommpey]

So, we stick with him?

By what reasoning that we have won one game in the last thirteen is there any justification in that? Glimmers of hope? I may be just a distant supporter here on the south coast and reduced to vicarious accounts (thanks to Deadbat - but they sum much of it up for me) and watching thirty seconds of opposition players wheeling away from United's goal in celebration on The Football League Show but what exactly can be construed as any definition of 'hope' in both form and function in a side clearly rudderless, devoid of confidence and frankly set to become next year's team to beat in the division below? Can you actually see us coming out one Saturday and dicking any team in the near future to stamp some sort of authority on the English Third Division, as it was? It wouldn't make me quite so pissed off if we played well, and were beaten by refs decisions, a (deservedly) better side or other such fate like injury, a coat of paint on an upright or even a single goal in a tight, action packed match. But it's not, is it? Other teams are coming out and sussing out or inadequacies quickly, attacking the weaknesses and exploiting the openings, and simply watching Sheffield United huff and puff to get three passes together to get no nearer their net. It's a piece of piss for them. And we forgive the revolutionary manager because we're embarrased that if we sack the chimp we will struggle to get another (get your hand in your purse McCabe and get Curbishley, for fuck's sake) or the fact that we have had dozens of incompetents since the last stumbling attempt at glory.

Sack him and start again.

pommpey

 

[Wards]

Sounds like a broken man to me. Utterly dreadful interview.

http://audioboo.fm/boos/1649266-suf...paign=detailpage&utm_content=retweet&utm_medi

Sure he's a decent bloke but I think he'll be on his bike.

 

[Worksop II]

but I think he'll be on his bike.

I bet he falls off .....

 

[pommpey]

Sounds like a broken man to me.

He can sound like the pope's last shit dropping musically into a ming vase for all I care.

This is how we feel ... all the fucking time.

pommpey

 

[Hartley Hare]

Sounds like a broken man to me. Utterly dreadful interview.

http://audioboo.fm/boos/1649266-suf...paign=detailpage&utm_content=retweet&utm_medi

Sure he's a decent bloke but I think he'll be on his bike.

Very downbeat, morose (having a sullen and gloomy disposition).

Has he lost heart for the job? He must be beginning to doubt himself? I wonder if the players are losing faith?

Whilst I am not in favour of chopping and changing managers all the time (four in one year is too many.) If he has lost it he should go, and the directors should know whether this is the case. He will not resign as he will be entitled to a big pay-off?

One way or another this is going to cost us again.

Very fed up.
HH

 

[Large Mendonca]

Jeez....and we think Dave Jones sounds miserable !!

Sounds like a manager on the brink to me.

 

[Eskimo]

I can understand a manager making lots of changes and needing time for the changes to bed in. But there have been so many changes it seems every match starts with a different team. What I saw last night was confusion and low confidence, vry little understanding between the players or cohesion. Mistimed runs off the ball or no runs when one was expected. The approach earlier in the season of keeping the ball at all costs and pass it around replaced with - if you can pass it, do - if you can't then hit a hopeful ball.

An example was Westlake who pushed forward in the second half but seemingly with no plan or purpose . When he got the ball with a bit of space in front of him her hardly ever committed his defender but rather looked to pass inside. On the one occasion he took on his man he got a decent cross in. And he can't defend can he. He was a typical example not the worst.

Baxter tried hard but was made to look poor as options dried up in fgront of him, ditto Coady. I can't remember Murphy touching the ball. Taylor was ineffective and was the new left back Lapin successful with any passes or crosses? Maybe overall there were three hits on goal and one half chance. I thought overallit was much worse than saturday

The point is I don't think any of these are players who in normal circumstances would struggle in the third division. But top marks to the 4k crowd who quietly supported throughout saving the chorus of boos for the end when it was entirely justified.

Honestly what can Weir say to the players now. Keep going its starting to work? It's not.

 

[shorehamview]

I'm not in favour of Weir staying. This is not the same as saying that I like the John Beck style of long ball football, nor does it say that I like chips with custard. What it does say is that the faith we placed in David Weir was misplaced to say the least.

I would also have thought that the people still backing Weir would be too busy enjoying strong glue and eating crayons to bother with accssing the internet, but hey ho, it would appear not.

 

[FleaPitBlade]

I’m still behind him. I bought into his ethos and ideas and my views on how to go about achieving long term and sustainable success are similar to Weir’s.

I think he’s been a victim of circumstance in some respects. We lost McDonald which knocked us totally out of sync and by the time the replacements had arrived and settled in we’d suffered a couple of narrow defeats and the rot had set in which was confounded by virtue of it being a young squad lacking on the pitch leadership.


I still think Weir and his team have it in them to guide SUFC through this and be better for it but to make any progress from where we currently are then a line needs to be drawn in the sand and everyone to a man needs to forget what has happened and start afresh in a positive and supportive environment. The problem with that is we’re now in a situation where we have young players and fragile personalities, a squad of footballers unweathered to baying crowds and pressure situations and a fan base that wants blood. It’s becoming a catch 22 situation.

 

[shorehamview]

It’s becoming a catch 22 situation.

Or a "sack one" situation.

 

[dublin 10 blade]

Admittedly part of me is wondering why I still am, but here's some reasoning.
1) I've seen enough glimpses of good football to think there's still a glimmer of hope.
2) He's brought in the right kind of players, although he hasn't made them perform.
3) If no one wanted to come at the start of the season who would now? Any managers free are failures, has-beens or inexperienced like Weir.
4) He saw what worked against Crawley and stuck with it - something Wilson often didn't do.
5) He's respected in football which will benefit the club as a whole.
6) I'm a supporter, it's kind of in the name.

Listen fella your intitled to your view , stick with it , and fuck the begrudgers , I can see the points your trying to make , the sorry thing is were not going in the right direction fast enough for most people , { myself included } but I'am prepared to give the manager a couple more games , if he's not sat his players done and gone through them for a short-cut he fucking needs to , and realise he may not have the team at the moment to play like he wants to , even though he's brought in enough good players at this level to do so , the reason I say give him a few more games , is give the club time to find a new guy , No uncle col you've had your time , and no to any of the other fuckers who turned us down pre season either , also it will give the new manager the transfer window in the new year to bring in his own players , so end of November for me , shape up , or ship out , any later and if he's not turned it around we could be cut adrift , with the new guy having no chance , like sir Dave had'nt to turn it around , as always U.T.B.

 

[Darren]

I’m still behind him. I bought into his ethos and ideas and my views on how to go about achieving long term and sustainable success are similar to Weir’s.

I think he’s been a victim of circumstance in some respects. We lost McDonald which knocked us totally out of sync and by the time the replacements had arrived and settled in we’d suffered a couple of narrow defeats and the rot had set in which was confounded by virtue of it being a young squad lacking on the pitch leadership.


I still think Weir and his team have it in them to guide SUFC through this and be better for it but to make any progress from where we currently are then a line needs to be drawn in the sand and everyone to a man needs to forget what has happened and start afresh in a positive and supportive environment. The problem with that is we’re now in a situation where we have young players and fragile personalities, a squad of footballers unweathered to baying crowds and pressure situations and a fan base that wants blood. It’s becoming a catch 22 situation.

The only "ethos" I want to buy into is the one that says "winning matches is the most important thing". Anything else is froth and bollocks.

And as other people have said, what exactly was it that needed changing in the ethos? We have played passy-passy stuff under Wilson for the past 2 seasons and have been serious contenders for promotion both seasons. All that was needed was a couple of astute signings and away we go.

 

[dublin 10 blade]

The only "ethos" I want to buy into is the one that says "winning matches is the most important thing". Anything else is froth and bollocks.

And as other people have said, what exactly was it that needed changing in the ethos? We have played passy-passy stuff under Wilson for the past 2 seasons and have been serious contenders for promotion both seasons. All that was needed was a couple of astute signings and away we go.

Agree Darren , but towards the end of Wilson , the baying mob wanted the '' pig '' out at any cost , I was'nt one of them , and never was , just willing to give him a go , after the shock of him being given the job in the first place.

 

[Revolution]

Agree Darren , but towards the end of Wilson , the baying mob wanted the '' pig '' out at any cost , I was'nt one of them , and never was , just willing to give him a go , after the shock of him being given the job in the first place.

This is not true. There were some people who had had enough, but on the whole people thought firing Wilson then was a daft decision. And of course the club is still paying for it.

 

[Darren]

This is not true. There were some people who had had enough, but on the whole people thought firing Wilson then was a daft decision. And of course the club is still paying for it.

Indeed. I can't conceive what sort of maniac thought that Morgan was more likely to get us promoted than Wilson.