Why Adams should go now! Next season is too late..

[Sothall_Blade]

P24 W4 D5 L15 Pts 17 Avg 0.71

Finishing 23rd with 42 points is bad enough. Based on Adam's record over the whole season we would have got 33 points and been relegated weeks ago.

He signed poor players and persisted in playing them for far too long. It was only when relegation was almost assured that he finally shuffled the pack and results improved slightly. Nobody can tell me he deserves to keep his job based on the results he's achieved.

The only good reason people can give for retaining him is that we need stability. I can understand that but my worry is that he needs to get immediate results next season or his position will very quickly become untenable. By this time he'll have filled the squad with his own type of players, we'll be maybe 10 games in and looking at another cycle of "wait until the next transfer window" before we can start to rebuild, again!

Surely it's far better and more likely to assure stability to change manager now. That would give the new man the whole pre-season to prepare and rebuild and this time both fans and board should be willing to stick with him for the full season and beyond.

I know McCabe says he won't put any more money in but if there's one final goodwill gesture he can do for the club, it's to fund the replacement of Adams with a young, upcoming manager who's proven he can get results on a tight budget.

For me that man is Keith Hill at Rochdale and there's no way he would turn us down. The bottom line is who would you trust to get us back up again quickest?

 

[FirthParkBlade]

For me if we get rid of Adams do it now. If not give him the summer and the whole of next season. Lets hope we don't make the same mistake as last season, giving a manager a whole summer to bring in his players and then sacking him after a point at Cardiff (finished 4th) & a defeat to QPR (Champions).

 

[beightonblade]

The whole fooking lot of em at BDTBL wud go if I had my way owner,players,management and scouting team all of the useless two hats !

 

[Bergen Blade]

Apparantly Seth Bennet said during the commentary today that Adams didn't use Prozone or any other post match video analysis? Surely can't be correct?

 

[oaklandrdblade]

I heard from another source many weeks ago that he doesn't but Cork does.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Apparantly Seth Bennet said during the commentary today that Adams didn't use Prozone or any other post match video analysis? Surely can't be correct?

Difficult to believe if correct.

In fact arrogant would be appropriate.

Might be that the penny pinchers have had their say on the system and decided that it costs too much but, in a modern world, if the decision is in fact Adams then this speaks volumes IMHO.

 

[scouseblade]

Would make sense, seeing as he believed Nos was doing a good positional sense for the number of games he played him for. Surely, ProZone would have spotted that the useless lump was out of position (actually leftback in changing rooms would have been correct) on numerous goals

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Apparantly Seth Bennet said during the commentary today that Adams didn't use Prozone or any other post match video analysis? Surely can't be correct?

I can believe that a manager may not spend hours poring over the stats, but you'd better hope that the assistant does and reports their findings back to the manager.

 

[Bergen Blade]

Difficult to believe if correct.

In fact arrogant would be appropriate.

Might be that the penny pinchers have had their say on the system and decided that it costs too much but, in a modern world, if the decision is in fact Adams then this speaks volumes IMHO.

The last bit here quotes Adams on Prozone and dvds, but where did Seth get it from?

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foot...n_a_permanent_marker_1_3048325?commentssort=0

 

[SteelCity Blade]

I've decided to take a sabbatical from the forum following this post. I've just watched probably the worst season in recent memory and have exhausted my arguments for the ins and outs of why this has happened and what can be done to fix it. Its all academic now and I imagine a decision will be made over the manager's position shortly. I doubt any opinions or arguments from this forum will have any impact on the decision so I will await to see how the summer unfolds and return to the forum at the start of the season.....hopefully with renewed enthusiasm.

My advice to fellow Blades is to do yourselves a favour, forget about this season and consider it a write off.....dont let it spoil your summer!

UTB

 

[Crazyblade]

P24 W4 D5 L15 Pts 17 Avg 0.71

Finishing 23rd with 42 points is bad enough. Based on Adam's record over the whole season we would have got 33 points and been relegated weeks ago.

That says everything for me. He must go. No ifs or buts about it.

 

[BladeHearts]

I've decided to take a sabbatical from the forum following this post. I've just watched probably the worst season in recent memory and have exhausted my arguments for the ins and outs of why this has happened and what can be done to fix it. Its all academic now and I imagine a decision will be made over the manager's position shortly. I doubt any opinions or arguments from this forum will have any impact on the decision so I will await to see how the summer unfolds and return to the forum at the start of the season.....hopefully with renewed enthusiasm.

My advice to fellow Blades is to do yourselves a favour, forget about this season and consider it a write off.....dont let it spoil your summer!

UTB

If only real life had a holiday function like Football Manager, I could eat my dinner and 30 mins later we'd be ready to start the 2011-2012 season.

 

[bottletree]

All Adams needs to do next season is keep us up. I expect another hard season with flirting of the bottom 4 places a stark reality.

 

[grafikhaus]

All Adams needs to do next season is keep us up. I expect another hard season with flirting of the bottom 4 places a stark reality.

That will certainly be the case with Adams in charge. His record speaks for itself. Sure, we weren't flying high when he came but he's managed to make us finish joint bottom with a squad on £12m per year wages.

'Give him a chance' next season and, by November, we'll be looking at another wasted season with the attendant drop in support and commercial revenue. Now is the time for McCabe - for once - to make a decisive move and not wait until it's too late. A new managerial team (I've had it with the average crap manager who brings his old mates in) of Pembo, Morgs and maybe Edwards. This 'team of all the talents' surely have enough between them in terms of motivation, talent-spotting, fitness etc. to be a better bet than yet another dead-beat lower-league manager.

No excuses next season. It's a pub league which will be weaker than this year. None of this 'it's their cup final, big crowd, raise their game' bollocks. Leave comments like that to useless managers such as Irvine, Megson and, if he's still here next season, Adams.

Hit the ground running in August. And that means a strong, meaningful programme of pre-season friendlies (Leeds, anyone? Thought they owed us one.) But I suspect it will be usual Worksop Town, Dog & Duck etc.

Finally, special thanks to McCabe. In his long, near-unbroken list of fuck-ups it became evident watching QPR that by far his biggest was letting Warnock go. And probably on the say-so of a pissed-up, Z-list 'actor'.

 

[Peezablade]

For me if we get rid of Adams do it now. If not give him the summer and the whole of next season. Lets hope we don't make the same mistake as last season, giving a manager a whole summer to bring in his players and then sacking him after a point at Cardiff (finished 4th) & a defeat to QPR (Champions).

And an embarrassing defeat at Hartlepool

 

[sheffielder]

Unfortunately and I wish it was different but Micky has to go. He just doesn't seem to get it for me. I already knew before yesterday that Doyle is the worst midfielder I have witnessed at the lane yet Micky had to play him. Maybe he will be ok next year in Div1 but we already know what we have with him. Sitting on the bench the lad Harriott could have got some invaluable experience, yet comes on with 18 minutes to go and the game dead. Lowton moves to right midfield when he could have tried Chappell. He might not be good enough but how the hell are we going to find out. Maybe we should wait until preseason.

The season was over already so chuck them all in and see who sinks or swims. I don't think he has done enough to find out which of our youngsters and/or developments players will be good enough to help us next season

Another Micky fail along with the worst record and the inability to motivate his players

 

[raul]

His biggest problem is that the crowd is already firmly and divisively split between those who think he's useless and those who really don't like him at all. He starts next season without goodwill, so anything less than a flying start will have us all up in arms again and if we've learned one thing in the half season he's been here it's that he doesnt' work well under pressure.

I can understand the viewpoint that you can't judge him until he's had a chance to put his own squad out, but that in itself only stores up problems for the next man in and just transfers the constant state of flux we are in even further down the line. Furthermore, we can no longer afford each new manager the luxury of bringing in 2 or 3 players if we go through them at the current rate.

Grafik is right, there is no "wait and see" time. He either has to go tomorrow, or at the very least, Tuesday.

Conversely, if KM thinks he really is the man, then he needs to back him publicly to us and privately to the playing staff then stand or fall on that decision.

 

[diplomat]

I heard from another source many weeks ago that he doesn't but Cork does.

Would that be Cork that leaves games he's scouting at the earliest opportunity including when his own son was playing against us and he missed a mad last 15 mins where loads of goals were scored and thus missed the most crucial part of his scouting mission. Basically because he's a bit lazy.

 

[oaklandrdblade]

Would that be Cork that leaves games he's scouting at the earliest opportunity including when his own son was playing against us and he missed a mad last 15 mins where loads of goals were scored and thus missed the most crucial part of his scouting mission. Basically because he's a bit lazy.

I have no idea about that bit, was just passing on what I heard about the use of prozone and match videos in response to Bergen.

 

[Rustyblade]

A mad last 15 minutes might be great for spectators but I would think that watching players for the other 75 minutes is much more informative for scouts.

 

[Ollessendro]

Totally agree Sothall. Adams must go and in the next few days. He has done little or nothing to prove he is the right man to turn us round. The list of reasons to sack him (terrible results, poor performances, poor signings, awful tactics, persistancy with poor players and not making the most of youth/development players) i s much, much bigger than the reason to keep him (stability). Adams has looked completely lost and has spectacularly failed. He took us from flirting with relegation at joint 5th bottom to bottom in a matter of weeks. It has been a god awful season and he has played a pivitol role in relegation.

I used to like Adams and I really wanted him to do well with us. However I think the time from now is crucial and we need strong management to really chage the style/ethos of the club. We are presented with a fantastic opportunity to clear the decks and start again. What we need is youth, frsh ideas and good tactics. What we do not need is a dinosaur hoof ball merchant. Sorry Micky, sling your hook.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

It's a funny situation, I'm not sure one way or the other about Adams because I'm not sure anyone could have stopped the slide.

One thing I do know is that if Micky looses the first three games of next season and is then dumped out of the League Cup first round he will loose the crowd and we have another Blackwell situation. We must avoid this at all costs so sorry Micky it may be time to move on?

 

[bladesadviser]

It really is time to back him or sack him. This needs to happen this week as well as asking the players who are up for a battle in League 1. Time to ship out any who aren't going to sweat blood

 

[FirthParkBlade]

And an embarrassing defeat at Hartlepool

Fair play, I think we lost the season before that in the first round too at home to Micky Adams' Port Vale? IMO that is a lot more embarrassing. I wouldn't read too much into cup games against lower opposition. However it's all done with now.

Heres to a boring summer with no World Cup or European Championships and then a season in the third tier of English football.

UTB

 

[Highbury_Blade]

His biggest problem is that the crowd is already firmly and divisively split between those who think he's useless and those who really don't like him at all. He starts next season without goodwill, so anything less than a flying start will have us all up in arms again and if we've learned one thing in the half season he's been here it's that he doesnt' work well under pressure.

I can understand the viewpoint that you can't judge him until he's had a chance to put his own squad out, but that in itself only stores up problems for the next man in and just transfers the constant state of flux we are in even further down the line. Furthermore, we can no longer afford each new manager the luxury of bringing in 2 or 3 players if we go through them at the current rate.

Raul has got it spot on.

 

[tyneblade]

For me Tony Pulis is the template we want to be looking at when selecting a manager for next season and the seasons beyond. Somebody with the personality to dominate the club and keep the the payers focussed on the job. Seems to me that Lee Clark and Roberto Di Matteo fit that bill but are well beyond us now, Adams is a nice guy but simply doesn't. The only problem is that i can't think of anyone else who fits the bill and our budget.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

For me Tony Pulis is the template we want to be looking at when selecting a manager for next season and the seasons beyond. Somebody with the personality to dominate the club and keep the the payers focussed on the job. Seems to me that Lee Clark and Roberto Di Matteo fit that bill but are well beyond us now, Adams is a nice guy but simply doesn't. The only problem is that i can't think of anyone else who fits the bill and our budget.

Stoke's success is more down to having an owner, Peter Coates, who, like McCabe, claims to be a fan but who, unlike McCabe, has consistently backed the club financially and is more interested in success on the pitch than outside business interests.

 

[judge]

funny thing is though pullis got stoke promoted by filling the team with loan players ,i think that is something we need to get away from

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

For me Tony Pulis is the template we want to be looking at when selecting a manager for next season and the seasons beyond. Somebody with the personality to dominate the club and keep the the payers focussed on the job. Seems to me that Lee Clark and Roberto Di Matteo fit that bill but are well beyond us now, Adams is a nice guy but simply doesn't. The only problem is that i can't think of anyone else who fits the bill and our budget.

Can't agree, I'm stick of the long direct football which a lot of our fans seem to demand.
We went for Adams over the footballing option, please if we do replace him lets not do it again.

There are decent options in league one and two. RDM and Clark are out of our reach.

A friend of mine had a great shout for Paul Tisdale. Looking at his record he could be a great shout to work alongside Pembo but the fans wouldn't have it.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Can't agree, I'm stick of the long direct football which a lot of our fans seem to demand.
We went for Adams over the footballing option, please if we do replace him lets not do it again.

There are decent options in league one and two. RDM and Clark are out of our reach.

A friend of mine had a great shout for Paul Tisdale. Looking at his record he could be a great shout to work alongside Pembo but the fans wouldn't have it.

As stated elswhere the biggest problem with our fans would be Micky loosing the first three games next season. He's had a very long honneymoon and I don't feel that the fans have been on his back at all.

Next season will be a different story.

Any new guy would get time.