Whose decision was this?

[Deadbat]

Makes me wonder. McCabe says Birch was in charge of all day to day football matters and that he would effectively make the decision over who the manager is with consultation from the rest of the board of course.

Birch's words immediately after Speed left suggested we would be definitely looking for a manager that we continue the progressive style of football and the change of ethos we looked to initiate when Blackwell was jettisoned?

 

[Rustyblade]

We'll never know. And even if they did tell us, would you believe them?

 

[lenners]

It's always ultimately going to be McCabe whatever bollocks he spouts otherwise.
It's interesting that there was the apparent split between them over SOD though.

 

[alcoblade]

It's interesting that there was the apparent split between them over SOD though.

Where has this information come from?

UTB

 

[SotonBlade]

McCabe isn't even on the board anymore, a lot of people forget that

 

[creswellblade79]

Were did this whole birch wanting SOD idea come from ?

Has far has i remember he never mentioned any specific names so for all we know birch could have wanted Adams

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Exactly Soton, but in his role as owner did he make this decision against the wishes of the CE/board?

It's a question that I think needs answering if he is going to hide behind Birch when things are going bad and he doesn't want to talk to the press.

It is his club, and he has ever right to make this decision but he can't then say Birch is running the club and he is stepping back.

The answer incidentally alters nothing now, we are where we are, let's hope Birch was 100% behind this and Adams knocked them dead in the interview promising progressive football to bring back the fans.

 

[Rattly Noise]

Where has this information come from?

UTB

It's from lenners. He just said it and that's as credible as any fact. FACT.

 

[DuncDisorderly]

More conspiracy theories, eh. Here is my conspiracy theory.

Birchy interviewed a number of candidates and thought Adams was the best man for the job. He told the board what he thought, a majority agreed with him and authorised him to do a deal. Offers were made. The details were negotiated and agreement was reached. Hands were shaken and that was that.


Please jazz it up with extra details should you wish...

 

[bartman]

It's always ultimately going to be McCabe whatever bollocks he spouts otherwise.
It's interesting that there was the apparent split between them over SOD though.

AS i mentioned on another thread to Mic, Lenners,I have a contact who is at a high level at a local club who talks to our Board on a regular basis...i will quickly find out if that last line is a load of tosh...

 

[lenners]

AS i mentioned on another thread to Mic, Lenners,I have a contact who is at a high level at a local club who talks to our Board on a regular basis...i will quickly find out if that last line is a load of tosh...

Birch made it plain who he wanted.
It's entirely feasible he changed his mind but going from SOD to Adams is some about turn.

 

[Deadbat]

If Birch felt Adams was the best candidate then this appointment contradicts much of what he has said over the last 6 months. Nonre of us will ever know who made the final choice.

Radio Sheffield really need to press Birch/McCabe on the justification of this choice and ask them how he ticks the boxes Birch stressed ust 3 weeks ago. The only one is that he ticks is that he will have passion.

We may aswell have kept Blackwell in charge I feel looking at how things have developed. The dismissal of him and move to the different style or that was the plan at least when getting Speed seems to have been abandoned after 4 months? I would have more respect if the club had said it did not work so lets get back to what this club is good at, scapping, fighting and sod the style. Lets just get some passion back and win.

It is the not the appointment of Adams that bewilders me but the type of manager we have appointed which is completely against all the changes made at the club (releasing Blackwell, appointing Pemberton, chaning the structure of the Academy etc)?

It's like we are back to square one. I have no problem with this incidentally as for the most part we have done ok under this approach although it remains to be seen whether Adams has the ability to do a Warnock or even a Blackwell with an admittedly poor squad (but better than the one Warnock inherited in 1999 I feel).

 

[DuncDisorderly]

Au contrare, of the half dozen things Birch said were appealing traits of the new gaffer (they have been put up in another thread) Adams has five or six. Style is something that can change or be changed. Holloway was a kick and rush manager, but changed his philosophy. Adams seems to have done likewise with PV, so why couldn't he progress us as well..?

 

[bartman]

If Birch felt Adams was the best candidate then this appointment contradicts much of what he has said over the last 6 months. Nonre of us will ever know who made the final choice.

Radio Sheffield really need to press Birch/McCabe on the justification of this choice and ask them how he ticks the boxes Birch stressed ust 3 weeks ago. The only one is that he ticks is that he will have passion.

We may aswell have kept Blackwell in charge I feel looking at how things have developed. The dismissal of him and move to the different style or that was the plan at least when getting Speed seems to have been abandoned after 4 months? I would have more respect if the club had said it did not work so lets get back to what this club is good at, scapping, fighting and sod the style. Lets just get some passion back and win.

It is the not the appointment of Adams that bewilders me but the type of manager we have appointed which is completely against all the changes made at the club (releasing Blackwell, appointing Pemberton, chaning the structure of the Academy etc)?

It's like we are back to square one. I have no problem with this incidentally as for the most part we have done ok under this approach although it remains to be seen whether Adams has the ability to do a Warnock or even a Blackwell with an admittedly poor squad (but better than the one Warnock inherited in 1999 I feel).

Agree with Dunc,Adams ticks the majority of boxes he said he was looking for so I cannot see where the contrdiction is. We don;t know,as yet,what syle Adams will bring but his Port Vale team had a more entertaining and attractive style when they beat us last year where they mixed up the passing and direct style s

 

[lenners]

Au contrare, of the half dozen things Birch said were appealing traits of the new gaffer (they have been put up in another thread) Adams has five or six. Style is something that can change or be changed. Holloway was a kick and rush manager, but changed his philosophy. Adams seems to have done likewise with PV, so why couldn't he progress us as well..?

Looking back, it's hard to recall when your posts went beyond parody.
So let's just lift up our hands in brotherly lurve and walk together towards that eternal sunshine.
Amen.

 

[Rattly Noise]

I have no problem with this incidentally as for the most part we have done ok under this approach

Ok? We got to the Premiership twice. I'd say that was better than ok.

 

[Come from away]

Really don't care who made the decision, just hope we start winning a few games.

 

[mall]

Au contrare, of the half dozen things Birch said were appealing traits of the new gaffer (they have been put up in another thread) Adams has five or six. Style is something that can change or be changed. Holloway was a kick and rush manager, but changed his philosophy. Adams seems to have done likewise with PV, so why couldn't he progress us as well..?

And Blackwell promised to give us entertaining football didn't he?
Adams may agree with anything to quadruple his salary...I hope it's not a long contract.
How on earth Pemberton fits in with this is anyones guess. I suppose he'll be quietly released in about 18 months time.
You'll have a goody, goody explanation for that too.

 

[Wards]

Ok? We got to the Premiership twice. I'd say that was better than ok.

Really? I would say that stopping there should be the benchmark - getting there isn't that big an achievement given the money pumped in. Two brief flirts with the top division in the last 20 years or so would be under-achieving in my opinion given that shite like Fulham, Wigan, etc have stayed there for years.

Not expecting us to be challenging for honours but bloody hell, I think we have the set up and fan base thats a bit more deserving than what we've supposedly 'achieved' by getting there twice.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Here we are again, all the "experts" out in force to say why this is supposedly a bad appointment. The directors dont have to come out and justify anything. They've gone through a rigorous process and have decided that Micky Adams is best for the job. End of.

The man hasn't even put his feet under the table and already he's been called a "hoof merchant" and a "cheap appointment" by the woefully misinformed. If you want United to do as well as possible under the new manager, get behind him, his staff and the players.

The decision has been made, why dwell?

 

[Rattly Noise]

Here we are again, all the "experts" out in force to say why this is supposedly a bad appointment. The directors dont have to come out and justify anything. They've gone through a rigorous process and have decided that Micky Adams is best for the job. End of.

The man hasn't even put his feet under the table and already he's been called a "hoof merchant" and a "cheap appointment" by the woefully misinformed. If you want United to do as well as possible under the new manager, get behind him, his staff and the players.

The decision has been made, why dwell?

Spot on. Anyone that says any different is wrong. Fact.

 

[Foxy]

According to both Trevor Birch and Chris Steer, it was a unanimous decision from the board.

 

[Micalijo]

Trevor has at least 250k reasons to support Adams arrival, Steer is just honoured to be on board and I don't know who else there is? McCabe's son?

 

[Foxy]

Trevor has at least 250k reasons to support Adams arrival, Steer is just honoured to be on board and I don't know who else there is? McCabe's son?

Perhaps it was an enforced decision with the lads at Valad leaning on all those at the lane?

 

[JohnDenver]

let's just lift up our hands in brotherly lurve and walk together towards that eternal sunshine.
Amen.

Yay! Come give me a hug!

 

[lenners]

According to both Trevor Birch and Chris Steer, it was a unanimous decision from the board.

You means like da unanimous decision to go for a change of culture?

 

[Foxy]

You means like da unanimous decision to go for a change of culture?

I'm not sure any of the academy sides or the first team have played since the decision has been made Lenners, so it's a little difficult at this ever so early stage to see what form culture is intended.

Still, I digress.

I merely stated what Trevor Birch and Chris Steer said, two of the men actually involved in the process and the decision.

 

[lenners]

I'm not sure any of the academy sides or the first team have played since the decision has been made Lenners, so it's a little difficult at this ever so early stage to see what form culture is intended.

Still, I digress.

I merely stated what Trevor Birch and Chris Steer said, two of the men actually involved in the process and the decision.

Pembo: Football's changed, we have to change, the centre halves at academy level touch the ball more than anyone else.
Micky: Bust it, get it in the box, don't fanny about.
Gotta chuckle.
As for the carpet man, if you think he carries any weight beyond his own when it comes to key decisions at the club, you must be bonkers.

 

[Foxy]

Pembo: Football's changed, we have to change, the centre halves at academy level touch the ball more than anyone else.
Micky: Bust it, get it in the box, don't fanny about.
Gotta chuckle.
As for the carpet man, if you think he carries any weight beyond his own when it comes to key decisions at the club, you must be bonkers.

You are good at deciding what I think and putting words in my mouth Leonard, you always have been

At least we've got you to tell us the ins and outs of the boardroom and their movements ey?

 

[lenners]

You are good at deciding what I think and putting words in my mouth Leonard, you always have been

At least we've got you to tell us the ins and outs of the boardroom and their movements ey?

I merely pointed out Pembo has already established the style at academy level Foxy, it's not open for debate for him.
If it is, he should walk.