Whose decision was this?

[Highbury_Blade]

To me, 'Getting it in the box early' means counter attacking football, stretching defences, with players that have pace. What's wrong with that?

I'd certainly take that over lateral passing.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

All Micky needs to do is win at Burnley and twirl a scarf above his head ... and all will be well

How much better would it have been if bison head had hung on and MA's first sucess was three points at Burnley and Laws down the road.

 

[lenners]

To me, 'Getting it in the box early' means counter attacking football, stretching defences, with players that have pace. What's wrong with that?

I'd certainly take that over lateral passing.

I've nae problem with it.
It's the complete opposite to what the club said it wanted its footballing approach to be, that's the problem.

 

[Foxy]

You believe either Pembo/club hierarchy or Micky is lying but want to wait a few weeks before you decide which.
Gotta chuckle.

I really don't, but it's nice of you to identify and confirm that I'd like to give the new men some time before forming a solid opinion on how we are to play

 

[lenners]

I really don't, but it's nice of you to identify and confirm that I'd like to give the new men some time before forming a solid opinion on how we are to play

So you don't believe what Micky's said today?
Is it him you think is lying?

 

[Foxy]

So you don't believe what Micky's said today?
Is it him you think is lying?

I don't recall suggesting I thought anyone was lying. I think you were the one who did that.

What do you think to Mr Savage's opinion by the way?

 

[Highbury_Blade]

I've nae problem with it.
It's the complete opposite to what the club said it wanted its footballing approach to be, that's the problem.

Is it? As far as i recall they club stated they wanted to change the football style. Now to me, that's they want to change it away from the defensive, percentage football style employed by blackwell.

Probably the most exciting team i've ever seen were the Man United side of the mid 90's that were devastating on the break with Kanchelskis and giggs on the wings. I certainly would not be unhappy if that's the kind of football adams brought to the lane.

 

[Pinchy]

Pinch I'm no establishment lackey but to take one comment and believe that has decided the playing style for the next 2 years is ridiculous.

You will have changed your mind when he drops Monty against Burnley

It is ridiculous Ghandi. I have said that on other posts today [not that I expect you to read all my utterings - you've probably got a life]. I sincerely hope the reality will be a seamless throughput of talented players from Pembo [who seems to be doing a fine job] through to the first team where they play aesthetically pleasing and effective football under MA. I am genuinely much cheered by what Robbie Savage has said [never thought I'd write that either].

What now worries me now is the obvious zeal that some of our fans have for an aimless longball style [read some of the madness on today's threads]. I fear they are trapped in a Bassett designed timewarp and may be trampled underfoot by stampeding dinosaurs.

 

[Russ]

All Micky needs to do is win at Burnley and twirl a scarf above his head ... and all will be well

Yeah but how are we gonna win at Burnley with no midfielders? Any ideas anyone.........?

 

[Worksop II]

How much better would it have been if bison head had hung on and MA's first sucess was three points at Burnley and Laws down the road.

I never realised he had be dispensed with .... though Magners and Lech aint helping

 

[Pinchy]

Yeah but how are we gonna win at Burnley with no midfielders? Any ideas anyone.........?

Well, we're actually better off without two of them!

 

[lenners]

I don't recall suggesting I thought anyone was lying. I think you were the one who did that.

What do you think to Mr Savage's opinion by the way?

You didn't have to Foxy, your comments did that for you.
You said you wanted to wait a while to see what was true.
They can't both be true, so you must believe one of them is lying.
You either have an idea now, but don't want to say, or just haven't made up your mind yet.
Thing is, they can't both be right.

 

[Foxy]

You didn't have to Foxy, your comments did that for you.
You said you wanted to wait a while to see what was true.
They can't both be true, so you must believe one of them is lying.
You either have an idea now, but don't want to say, or just haven't made up your mind yet.
Thing is, they can't both be right.

I said I rather watch what is in front of me than deciding before hand what is to happen as you appear to have done. I also said that if we end up clearly having a first team approach that directly contrasts what we've been told, then is the time to decide that what we've been told sounds a little daft and is questionable, not before.

This means nothing close to me thinking anyone is lying.

There are no two differing parties to decide which to believe or to be right.

Still, it's refreshing to hear your comments on a professional footballers opinion, you validly tear apart what he has to say with a level of knowledge and foresight which is completely unrivalled.

 

[shorehamview]

Nah, you've got that starry-eyed, been to the press conference, can't bring yourself to be honest about the reality of what the club said and then did head on.
Nae worries.

As opposed to the damn-them-no-matter-what, not even got the bollocks to confront them at the AGM but prefer to hide behind the excuse that the meeting was at the hotel view?

Too full of yourself on here without the actions to back up the words?

It's blatantly clear that you hate everything about Sheffield United. You can't hear or read anything the club says without slaughtering it. Yet when offered the opportunity to air your views in public what did you do? Hide, using the frankly pitiful excuse that the AGM was being held in the hotel.

While there are people like Linz and Foxy prepared to give up their own time to bring us, word-for-word, what the club have said there are also those cowards who prefer to hide behind their keyboard to slag off everything the club does while not having the bravery to confront them directly.

We are all aware that Sheffield United has not been run as well as it could and should have been. This bit is in bold because lenners believes that if you are not in total agreement with him then you are spoon-fed and delusional and never criticise.

We are however used now to lenners' criticism of everything to do with Sheffield United regardless of how, who, why, when and where it is stated. We also know that given the opportunity to confront the club on the matters he feels deeply about he bottled it, under the flimsiest of excuses.

No doubt he'll castigate me now as my criticisms of the club don't match his and therefore I'm being spoon-fed the bullshit or some such nonsense. Either that, or he'll call me "son" or "sonny" in a mistaken belief that by patronising others he looks so much cleverer.

I'll say it again - most of us realise that Sheffield United are not the greatest club in the world - far from it. We know that things could and should be better.

We just don't have the same outlook that lenners has. Not starry-eyed, more eyes shut, fingers rammed in ears and screaming "la la la, I can't hear you" whenever he hears something he doesn't like.

 

[Deleted member 875]

I think we need to return to hoofball in the short-term before thinking about the nice passing football.

The first thing we need to do is turn ourselves in to a tough, hard to beat, physical side. It's all well and good playing nice attractive football but there is no point in playing it that way if your going to ship in goals at the back, or there is little tangible results show for the pretty football.

What we need to do, and what i think MA will do in the short-term is attempt to build a side that has got a strong spine, a never-say-die attitiude and will make teams work hard to beat us. It is when this is sorted out we can really start to think about playing some attractive stuff.

 

[ZoneManWilf]

It is ridiculous Ghandi. I have said that on other posts today [not that I expect you to read all my utterings - you've probably got a life]. I sincerely hope the reality will be a seamless throughput of talented players from Pembo [who seems to be doing a fine job] through to the first team where they play aesthetically pleasing and effective football under MA. I am genuinely much cheered by what Robbie Savage has said [never thought I'd write that either].

What now worries me now is the obvious zeal that some of our fans have for an aimless longball style [read some of the madness on today's threads]. I fear they are trapped in a Bassett designed timewarp and may be trampled underfoot by stampeding dinosaurs.

Apparantly there are only 2 styles of football in the world.

Hoofball and Passing-it-along-the-back-4.

Both sides forget that there are many shades of grey in between. Warnock always got accused of being a long ball merchant, but some of his sides (especially 02/03 with Brown and Tonge and even Nuddy) played pretty decent stuff, that home win against Liverpool in the Worthless Cup was not a product of a Bassett inspired long ball fest.

Speed was supposed to be a football merchant, but as soon as we got mugged 4-0 by Scunthorpe, he abandoned the approach of always having a midfielder available to take the ball off the defence because it wasn't rigid enough defensively. Pretty much we reverted back to Blackwell's system, because that was what Speed knew as a backup. Personally I thought it was a huge breath of fresh air to see Britton being an anchorman of who we could direct play around, and I thought it was the right way for us to be playing. But having an approach like that doesn't mean a short pass to a midfielder is always the correct option and channel balls and playing it out to the wing are often the right thing to do.

All you passing judgment on Adams' style of play (without even seeing one of his teams), are missing the point IMO that a tactical approach is not black and white. I'm also glad to read about what Savage's opinion about Adams is.

Pinchy saying he doesn't want a return to the hoofball of the Bassett era is correct, because that more aimless 'Get it somewhere near Deano' approach doesnt work against defences these days. Direct play and wing play can and does - look at the likes of Bolton in the prem. I thought Blackwell was simply too defensive minded for him to get it to work like Warnock did, mainly because Blackwell under-valued his wingers and was more interested in their defensive attributes and being rigid in the formation, than what they could offer going forward.

Adams may not have that attitude that Speed started with to have a midfielder drop deep to dictate play, which was the biggest immediate change from Blackwell's tactics, but that doesn't mean he's not an advocate of passing play through the midfield and hopefully the wings.

Ultimately you need good footballers whatever system you want to play these days and that for me is Adams' biggest challenge with the standard of squad currently down the lane.