Who would you appoint?

[GRUMPY BLADE]

If you listen to the Julian Winter interview, the word "profile" is used strictly in the context of cost. The whole interview revolves around it.

Basically, we're still re-profiling, even now. Next season's playing budget will be lower, by a not inconsiderable amount by the sound of it.

Yeovil did it on gates of 4500 - how many do Swindon and Brentford average?
15000 should see us through WITH THE RIGHT MANAGER!!!!!!!

 

[JohnDenver]

I think Pemberton would be as much of a gamble as Morgan.

Yup, but I like his footballing principles, which I've seen with my own eyes. If we're going to be crap, let's at least do it with a bit of style.

 

[JohnDenver]

Yeovil did it on gates of 4500 - how many do Swindon and Brentford average?
15000 should see us through WITH THE RIGHT MANAGER!!!!!!!

Doubt we'll agree on this, but if we appoint a new manager next week and ask him to slash the playing budget, he's unlikely to succeed even if the target budget remains higher than the divisional average.

It'll cost money just getting rid of players, never mind bringing them in. We need a stable budget yet we've had a falling one year after year.

I was more optimistic about next season than this one in the belief that our budget was now sustainable. We've just been told it isn't. That lengthens the odds of promotion by quite a stretch in my mind. If we do go up next year then I truly salute the manager who does it.

 

[Sandmart]

Darren Fergerson

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Who would you go for then?

Not sure we can get them but Grayson or O'Driscol would be by choice.
If we got one we would need to sit back and wait. It would take a couple of seasons+ with the right man in place. There is another thread listing players that have come out of the accademy over the years. If we get the right man in and let them build from the base up we can do it and all players in a successful squad could be heros. Imagine if that lot were our squad now.

The big trouble is the division is going to be harder to get out of next season.
The last season was easier on paper and our target should have been 104 points. We fell woefully short but never seemed to take stock at say November or March and just bumped along not achieving the target and putting up with it.

We need to expect more as fans but the management need to do so even more. Fans need to get pressure on the board somehow without it being seen as moaning. Fans need to stop blinding clapping owt in a red and white shirt as well.

Bit more happy listening to Winters interview. We all know its tough and we are in a mess but he does seem to have a different stance and changing the culture is welcome - just hope it's not all spin.

 

[JohnDenver]

Bit more happy listening to Winters interview. We all know its tough and we are in a mess but he does seem to have a different stance and changing the culture is welcome - just hope it's not all spin.

Even though he ruled out a Charlton-style squad overhaul as being unaffordable?

An organisation's culture is a reflection of its people, and when our lot look in the mirror they see yellow.

 

[Kev Gee]

Robinson or McCall.

 

[SotonBlade]

Not sure we can get them but Grayson or O'Driscol would be by choice.
If we got one we would need to sit back and wait. It would take a couple of seasons+ with the right man in place. There is another thread listing players that have come out of the accademy over the years. If we get the right man in and let them build from the base up we can do it and all players in a successful squad could be heros. Imagine if that lot were our squad now.

Agree with that principle. I think Grayson and O'Driscoll are unrealistic targets however. O'Driscoll will be building at Bristol I would imagine.

The big trouble is the division is going to be harder to get out of next season.
The last season was easier on paper and our target should have been 104 points. We fell woefully short but never seemed to take stock at say November or March and just bumped along not achieving the target and putting up with it.

Agree that the division will be tougher. Us bumping along was again probably down to finances. We were on the border of the Financial Fair Play rules all season.

We need to expect more as fans but the management need to do so even more. Fans need to get pressure on the board somehow without it being seen as moaning. Fans need to stop blinding clapping owt in a red and white shirt as well.

I think us as a fan base are expecting too much if i'm honest. A lot of fans still expect us to be a Premier League club. I agree we're underachieving, but the Championship is about our level. With the odd promotion to the top division. It's not easy to get out of this league, and us being us, we like to make it harder for ourselves. The main reason, for me, for us being where we are, are the decisions made at the top. Bad appointment after bad appointment since Warnock left.

Bit more happy listening to Winters interview. We all know its tough and we are in a mess but he does seem to have a different stance and changing the culture is welcome - just hope it's not all spin.

I too was buoyed slightly with the interview, but I do get an underlying feeling he is McCabe's puppet.

 

[gavtheblade]

id have gandalf the grey.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Agree with that principle. I think Grayson and O'Driscoll are unrealistic targets however. O'Driscoll will be building at Bristol I would imagine.



Agree that the division will be tougher. Us bumping along was again probably down to finances. We were on the border of the Financial Fair Play rules all season.



I think us as a fan base are expecting too much if i'm honest. A lot of fans still expect us to be a Premier League club. I agree we're underachieving, but the Championship is about our level. With the odd promotion to the top division. It's not easy to get out of this league, and us being us, we like to make it harder for ourselves. The main reason, for me, for us being where we are, are the decisions made at the top. Bad appointment after bad appointment since Warnock left.



I too was buoyed slightly with the interview, but I do get an underlying feeling he is McCabe's puppet.

So do I but I'm sure they have both been avaliable in the last 12 months and we missed the boat.

 

[SotonBlade]

id have gandalf the grey.

Stick him in defence!

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Doubt we'll agree on this, but if we appoint a new manager next week and ask him to slash the playing budget, he's unlikely to succeed even if the target budget remains higher than the divisional average.

It'll cost money just getting rid of players, never mind bringing them in. We need a stable budget yet we've had a falling one year after year.

I was more optimistic about next season than this one in the belief that our budget was now sustainable. We've just been told it isn't. That lengthens the odds of promotion by quite a stretch in my mind. If we do go up next year then I truly salute the manager who does it.

What if he recruits the equivalent to Swindon/Yeovil and Brentford squads and no old has beens?

 

[SE1Blade]

Stuart McCall for me.
If not him Phil Parkinson.
If not him I don't really know. Wouldn't mind Richie Barker under the circumstances. It needs to be someone who can get the young uns playing as they will be making up the bulk of the side (apart from the expensive shit we can't shift)

 

[alcoblade]

Gary Johnson.

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[Patrick Suffaux]

Stuart McCall

The only decent and realistic option for me. Has lower league experience and has done a good job at Motherwell.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

Gary Johnson.

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I normally agree with you alco but not on that buddy.

No way do I want him. Take it from someone who knows a bit about Bristol City. Also why do people keep calling for Karl Robinson?! Why?!

 

[Pedro Verde]

Heard a whisper Aidy Boothroyd might be in with a shout FFS

 

[alcoblade]

I normally agree with you alco but not on that buddy.

No way do I want him. Take it from someone who knows a bit about Bristol City. Also why do people keep calling for Karl Robinson?! Why?!

Nobody else in that list has had a fraction of the success he had. Bristol City got fed up with him, and got rid. They then got relegated.

Football management is full of nobody's. The vast majority of managers add no value whatsoever, and are found out after a few years. Nobody on that list had done anything that can be said with certainty isn't down to anything other than luck. 3 or 4 promotions can't be achieved without lots of skill, or a bit of skill and a lot of resource. Better judge him by that, than a bad patch at Bristol.

It won't be him anyway, because it would take a proactive approach to get him. We haven't got it in us to poach a manager, sadly not even from Yeovil.

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[Patrick Suffaux]

Nobody else in that list has had a fraction of the success he had. Bristol City got fed up with him, and got rid. They then got relegated.

Football management is full of nobody's. The vast majority of managers add no value whatsoever, and are found out after a few years. Nobody on that list had done anything that can be said with certainty isn't down to anything other than luck. 3 or 4 promotions can't be achieved without lots of skill, or a bit of skill and a lot of resource. Better judge him by that, than a bad patch at Bristol.

It won't be him anyway, because it would take a proactive approach to get him. We haven't got it in us to poach a manager, sadly not even from Yeovil.

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He really isn't the answer. Not for me anyway.

 

[Rodley]

I'd go for Robinson, he's been used to assembling squads on expensive budgets, plays slow boring football and has failed to win promotion at 3 attempts. Fit right in at the Lane...

 

[Pinchy]

1. Coyle
2. Robinson
3. McCall

That's it. Wilder, Morgan or any 'Upanatem' merchant and I'm off. Sad to say after 50 years, but I'm not trawling for sympathy. It's my choice.

 

[SwissBlade]

Robinson for me from that list. Although Coyle is a good shout, just think he wouldn't come down to us, same with McCall.

We need to make a statement of philosophy and go with it, whether it be high tempo passing football or upanatem it needs to be effective and exciting, but needs to be flexible.

We've just come out of Danny Wilsons era of good football until we got found out.

Whoever comes in needs to play unstoppable football in whatever form... Just get us out of this fecking league, I don't care how!

 

[mattbianco1]

I don't understand the fascination with Coyle either.

McCall for me. Done well in Scotland even when Rangers were there. If Wilder gets it, I'll be disappointed but as ever get behind him until he turns out shit

 

[alcoblade]

I don't understand the fascination with Coyle either.

McCall for me. Done well in Scotland even when Rangers were there. If Wilder gets it, I'll be disappointed but as ever get behind him until he turns out shit

Coyle's managed to get a team promoted - unlike many on that list, including McCall. He's also got a relegation to his name, but as he was managing in the Premiership, I wouldn't hold that against him.

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[GRUMPY BLADE]

Coyle's managed to get a team promoted - unlike many on that list, including McCall. He's also got a relegation to his name, but was he was managing in the Premiership, I wouldn't hold that against him.

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You would if he got us promoted twice.

 

[alcoblade]

You would if he got us promoted twice.

? I don't follow fella........

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[cjx blade]

Dean smith.

Thought we got tore apart at Walsall . They finished six points off the playoffs and I would imagine the squad was built on next to nothing.

 

[chesblade]

It will be someone cheap if we are cutting the budget yet again. Not Coyle for me. Can't stand the man and don't think I trust any of directors either to make right decision

 

[1889]

Owen Coyle would be my choice, assuming that McCabe has deleted Di Matteo from his phone.

 

[Pinchy]

Stick him in defence!

Is that Blackwell in disguise?