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It appears the Clough sacking came out of the blue and that the intention was to give the manager more time but something happened at a Board Meeting and the relationship aborted. Six other contracts were terminated along with Clough's.

How does the Board go about appointing a new manager and the support staff?

Well, it has to be said that the search for potential new managers is an ongoing process. I would say that the Board members, Managing Director, every man-jack who is involved in the club should be storing mental notes about every person they ever meet or see or read about with a view to potential future managers at the club. It's part of the job and a natural mental process. Even before the split the Board will have turned their minds to Clough's successor simply because the team performances were disappointing. The Board itself will have a succession plan for every senior position in the club and should have an "emergency procedure" for every circumstance.

When the manager suddenly leaves, voluntarily or otherwise, the procedure should click into place. I recall McCabe saying at the impromptu meeting when he invited us protestors in from the car park, that he had coveted Wilson from his first year at Barnsley and was delighted to finally get his man.

There are some big questions about this new appointment process.:

1. Is McCabe involved at all? I suspect not.
2. Is Brannagan involved? I would not be surprised either way.
3. If the new owner is involved how on earth does he start and what advice will he take and from whom? There's a thought!

Whoever is leading the process, where do they look?

* Recently retired player with obvious leadership qualities?
* Young manager with a year's success at another smaller club?
* Experienced out of work manager?
* Experienced manager in another job?
* English, Scottish, other European country, wider Northern Hemisphere, Southern Hemisphere?
* League 1 experience?
* Male or female?!
* Somebody to take us right through to Europe?!


Of all the decisions the Board ever make this is the most important when it arises. No matter how much money the owners invest, how well the club is run, how good the Academy is, how massive the fan base - the quality of the manager determines the level of success.

Everybody's enjoyment of their favourite hobby, of their beloved club, rests on what happens these next few days; history in the making.

A number of other clubs are actively searching for a new manager too.

Where do they start?
 



They probably look at oddschecker and when someone pops up rapidly like Hughes, enquire as to whether he'd like an interview...or something like that... ;D
 
It's a great question.

I'm getting very frustrated at the blinkered views on here.

"It has to be Adkins"

"Robinson would need too long"

"if it's Parkinson then I'm off"

"Warburton wouldn't come"

etc etc.

See who do you think will be appointed poll for perfect illustration!

It's all well and good looking at managers past records and past achievements but players win games and sometimes a manager can be lucky and be in the right place at the right time with a nucleus of the right players and sufficient budget to tweak the squad where necessary. (that's where I see us now)

Sometimes a manager may have done a fabulous job on shoestring resources. Basset comes to mind, as he said "if you've got loads of money you don't ring Dave Bassett"

What we need is a good man manager to get the best out of our undoubtedly talented squad for the third division and add some steel to the spine.

I don't care what the managers name is or what he has or hasn't done before because no 2 football clubs are the same and the environments at no 2 clubs are the same.

As they say about financial investments "past performance is no guarantee of future returns".

I hope that the board appoint a good people person with good contacts, football knowledge and a positive outlook. If they do that then with our resources he will be successful whatever he has or hasn't done elsewhere and whatever his name is I will continue to support him and the team.

In my mind Clough's problems were his ego, being risk averse, and his intrancigence.

Get some positivity and motivational skills in and this should be an easy squad to tweak and take to the top.

People management skills and personality are what we need.
 
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I'd be happy with Adkins given his track record and if we could get him. Robinson would be ok too although I can't even see him wanting the job after he's just got MK Dons promoted, I suppose everyone has their price. I'd never heard of John Hughes but he's just won the Scottish Cup with Inverness so don't know what to think about that - My point is, I don't we should rule out a 'leftfield' appointment as long as it's the right one. Nigel Adkins himself was the physio when he took over at Scunthorpe, Mark Warburton was a stockbroker by trade, look what former Hamilton Accies boss, Alex Neil, has done at Norwich and at a higher level, who'd have thought Mauricio Pochettino would have done well when he hardly spoke any English when he arrived at Southampton. The thing is, whoever at the Lane is calling the shots (I thought it would be Jim Phipps?), let's hope they have more knowledge than we do and make an excellent choice and then we, as fans, need to give the new man a chance. Let's not have another embarassing episode like when Wilson was appointed. I hope we don't get Parkinson either, I think it's an uninspiring choice, but I'd give the man a chance first.

UTB!
 
It's a great question.

I'm getting very frustrated at the blinkered views on here.

"It has to be Adkins"

"Robinson would need too long"

"if it's Parkinson then I'm off"

"Warburton wouldn't come"

etc etc.

See who do you think will be appointed poll for perfect illustration!

It's all well and good looking at managers past records and past achievements but players win games and sometimes a manager can be lucky and be in the right place at the right time with a nucleus of the right players and sufficient budget to tweak the squad where necessary. (that's where I see us now)

Sometimes a manager may have done a fabulous job on shoestring resources. Basset comes to mind, as he said "if you've got loads of money you don't ring Dave Bassett"

What we need is a good man manager to get the best out of our undoubtedly talented squad for the third division and add some steel to the spine.

I don't care what the managers name is or what he has or hasn't done before because no 2 football clubs are the same and the environments at no 2 clubs are the same.

As they say about financial investments "past performance is no guarantee of future returns".

I hope that the board appoint a good people person with good contacts, football knowledge and a positive outlook. If they do that then with our resources he will be successful whatever he has or hasn't done elsewhere and whatever his name is I will continue to support him and the team.

In my mind Clough's problems were his ego, being risk averse, and his intrancigence.

Get some positivity and motivational skills in and this should be an easy squad to tweak and take to the top.

People management skills and personality are what we need.

Difficult to pick holes in that Madely, but if we're abandoning all pretence of "x year plans" then surely prioity should be given to candidiates with a working knowledge of the Division he is charged to get out of, particularly because the close season is all he has to hit the ground running.

I'd also not want to go overboard on positivity. Of course, we need to attack and be positive in our approach on the field, but I don't want one of these swivel eyed loons who insist on "taking the positives" out of defeats as some sort of denial mechanism.
 
Manchester United once lost to York City at home but still won the Champions League within 5 years, so it just goes to show we can take heart from the Fleetwood defeat.
 
Difficult to pick holes in that Madely, but if we're abandoning all pretence of "x year plans" then surely prioity should be given to candidiates with a working knowledge of the Division he is charged to get out of, particularly because the close season is all he has to hit the ground running.

I'd also not want to go overboard on positivity. Of course, we need to attack and be positive in our approach on the field, but I don't want one of these swivel eyed loons who insist on "taking the positives" out of defeats as some sort of denial mechanism.

By positivity I mean desire to win as opposed to not lose.

There will be "bad days at the office" but it's important to take the positives and move on believing in what you're doing instead of looking at the negatives and spend your time planning to counteract them in the next game.

I can remember the Rhinos losing to Saints by 70. Tony Smith shrugged his shoulders, said bad day at the office and the Rhinos went on to win the grand final.

Experience of this division would be a bonus not a necessity in my view. > 25% of the names in the division will be different next season and all of the teams will be!

Good organisation, good man management and a positive attitude can take you a long way

P.S I don't care what his public image is like. I want him to win football matches, not friends.
 
Personally I couldn't give 2 farts for who the manager is, if they announced Satan the next blades manager I'd welcome him if he gets us out of this shit hole we have dug ourselves, even, dare I say it....Gary smegson.
The important thing is we simply have to get out of league 1, no ifs no buts that is all that matters and if that means bringing in megson then damnit get his ginger arse signed n give him the whole summer transfer window to get in the 2 centre backs we ALL know we need, other than that I believe we have the players to destroy this league.
Get it sorted and get it sorted NOW.

Utb
 
Personally I couldn't give 2 farts for who the manager is, if they announced Satan the next blades manager I'd welcome him if he gets us out of this shit hole we have dug ourselves, even, dare I say it....Gary smegson.
The important thing is we simply have to get out of league 1, no ifs no buts that is all that matters and if that means bringing in megson then damnit get his ginger arse signed n give him the whole summer transfer window to get in the 2 centre backs we ALL know we need, other than that I believe we have the players to destroy this league.
Get it sorted and get it sorted NOW.

Utb

If we hire Megson we'll need to sign ten centre backs to play his way...
 
Not sure why the OP doesn't think the process might have started, however

Develops youth
Positive outlook with the ability to instill confidence n players
attacking football
promotions from div1 on his CV in past 5 years.

Rules in Warburton, Adkins, Robinson and strangely Darren Ferguson, who has got a good track record of picking up non league stars such as Dwight Gayle. Now playing at Palace.

I rule out Parkinson personally because although his track record is ok, it's not the same as those above, however just as importantly I can't think of any youngsters he's brought through or bought from non league who have turned into anything that can be sold on. He's a bit direct, however is that down to personnel than preference?

John Hughes - Haven't got a scooby to be honest, however doesn't have a promotion to his name. Does anyone know anything about Inverness, in regards to young players and style of play?

I would imagine any delays include compensation (Adkins), contract talks with current club (Robinson), however things like backroom staff will need to be considered. You can only hope after that, the board go for probability over chance with their selection.
 



It appears the Clough sacking came out of the blue and that the intention was to give the manager more time but something happened at a Board Meeting and the relationship aborted. Six other contracts were terminated along with Clough's.

How does the Board go about appointing a new manager and the support staff?

Well, it has to be said that the search for potential new managers is an ongoing process. I would say that the Board members, Managing Director, every man-jack who is involved in the club should be storing mental notes about every person they ever meet or see or read about with a view to potential future managers at the club. It's part of the job and a natural mental process. Even before the split the Board will have turned their minds to Clough's successor simply because the team performances were disappointing. The Board itself will have a succession plan for every senior position in the club and should have an "emergency procedure" for every circumstance.

When the manager suddenly leaves, voluntarily or otherwise, the procedure should click into place. I recall McCabe saying at the impromptu meeting when he invited us protestors in from the car park, that he had coveted Wilson from his first year at Barnsley and was delighted to finally get his man.

There are some big questions about this new appointment process.:

1. Is McCabe involved at all? I suspect not.
2. Is Brannagan involved? I would not be surprised either way.
3. If the new owner is involved how on earth does he start and what advice will he take and from whom? There's a thought!

Whoever is leading the process, where do they look?

* Recently retired player with obvious leadership qualities?
* Young manager with a year's success at another smaller club?
* Experienced out of work manager?
* Experienced manager in another job?
* English, Scottish, other European country, wider Northern Hemisphere, Southern Hemisphere?
* League 1 experience?
* Male or female?!
* Somebody to take us right through to Europe?!


Of all the decisions the Board ever make this is the most important when it arises. No matter how much money the owners invest, how well the club is run, how good the Academy is, how massive the fan base - the quality of the manager determines the level of success.

Everybody's enjoyment of their favourite hobby, of their beloved club, rests on what happens these next few days; history in the making.

A number of other clubs are actively searching for a new manager too.

Where do they start?
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It appears the Clough sacking came out of the blue.
How does the Board go about appointing a new manager and the support staff?
There are some big questions about this new appointment process.:
1. Is McCabe involved?

Where do they start?

Easy, ask Superblade to list his preferred three men to interview and then make sure they get no where near The Lane and chuck the list in the bin.
 
It's a great question.

I'm getting very frustrated at the blinkered views on here.

"It has to be Adkins"

"Robinson would need too long"

"if it's Parkinson then I'm off"

"Warburton wouldn't come"

etc etc.

See who do you think will be appointed poll for perfect illustration!

It's all well and good looking at managers past records and past achievements but players win games and sometimes a manager can be lucky and be in the right place at the right time with a nucleus of the right players and sufficient budget to tweak the squad where necessary. (that's where I see us now)

Sometimes a manager may have done a fabulous job on shoestring resources. Basset comes to mind, as he said "if you've got loads of money you don't ring Dave Bassett"

What we need is a good man manager to get the best out of our undoubtedly talented squad for the third division and add some steel to the spine.

I don't care what the managers name is or what he has or hasn't done before because no 2 football clubs are the same and the environments at no 2 clubs are the same.

As they say about financial investments "past performance is no guarantee of future returns".

I hope that the board appoint a good people person with good contacts, football knowledge and a positive outlook. If they do that then with our resources he will be successful whatever he has or hasn't done elsewhere and whatever his name is I will continue to support him and the team.

In my mind Clough's problems were his ego, being risk averse, and his intrancigence.

Get some positivity and motivational skills in and this should be an easy squad to tweak and take to the top.

People management skills and personality are what we need.
If parkinson comes, I'm Off.
 
I think they will have started with the thought 'As long as he doesn't have a brother who thinks he can become chief scout and he's willing to play 5 black players then I believe gentlemen we'll accept anyone.'
 
Who ever he is he's got a big job on his hands because success is also based on hitting just the right players at just the right time.
Just think of the way things went for Brayford when he came the first time to how it's gone since, same player but no way near the same impact..
Just as important will be who he gets as his number two out of who's available and interested in the job at this moment in time.
To only have one shot at getting us promoted starting NOW is going to take some one either very special or very lucky......
Or both

UTB
 
You know what I wanna know...

How does the club get peoples' phone numbers? Is there a big phone book of footballers' and managers' numbers or a list of who is who's agent n shit?
 
Who ever he is he's got a big job on his hands because success is also based on hitting just the right players at just the right time.
Just think of the way things went for Brayford when he came the first time to how it's gone since, same player but no way near the same impact..
Just as important will be who he gets as his number two out of who's available and interested in the job at this moment in time.
To only have one shot at getting us promoted starting NOW is going to take some one either very special or very lucky......
Or both

UTB


Maybe what we look for is a year of obvious progress towards the assembly of a quality squad with a culture of positive football, promotion being a bonus.

A sixth season in League 1 would be horrendous but I would settle for a big step towards a real and lasting period of incremental improvement.

The different performance levels of Brayford are all about playing in two different teams. Whilst most of the names of the players were much the same, there was no optimism and vibrancy in our play, no running off the ball, no swarming the opposition from midfield, less enjoyment. Nobody illustrated that last point more than the manager who was controlled and assured in his first season and yet was a snarling, peevish bully last season.

Brayford is quality but he can't pass the ball, receive it and then get on the end of a cross into the box, definitely not when he was playing centre half anyway!. He was still one of our best players even though he was mucked about so much.
 
Not sure why the OP doesn't think the process might have started, however

Develops youth
Positive outlook with the ability to instill confidence n players
attacking football
promotions from div1 on his CV in past 5 years.

Rules in Warburton, Adkins, Robinson and strangely Darren Ferguson, who has got a good track record of picking up non league stars such as Dwight Gayle. Now playing at Palace.

I rule out Parkinson personally because although his track record is ok, it's not the same as those above, however just as importantly I can't think of any youngsters he's brought through or bought from non league who have turned into anything that can be sold on. He's a bit direct, however is that down to personnel than preference?

John Hughes - Haven't got a scooby to be honest, however doesn't have a promotion to his name. Does anyone know anything about Inverness, in regards to young players and style of play?

I would imagine any delays include compensation (Adkins), contract talks with current club (Robinson), however things like backroom staff will need to be considered. You can only hope after that, the board go for probability over chance with their selection.

John Hughes took Hibs into Europe and played wonderful football for a short while. It went tits up in part because of a barn pot owner in my opinion. Think he was at Hartlepool for a while without having an effect so he could be tainted by that but he seems to have done very well with ICT on no budget to speak of.

I'm surprised so few know him to be honest.

Personally liked him but I'm far from convinced he is the man. Likes flair football but doesn't seem to keen on defenders. Think he may have been Hibs manager when they drew 6-6 against Motherwell a while back which perhaps sums up the good and bad of him.
 
It appears the Clough sacking came out of the blue and that the intention was to give the manager more time but something happened at a Board Meeting and the relationship aborted. Six other contracts were terminated along with Clough's.

How does the Board go about appointing a new manager and the support staff?

Well, it has to be said that the search for potential new managers is an ongoing process. I would say that the Board members, Managing Director, every man-jack who is involved in the club should be storing mental notes about every person they ever meet or see or read about with a view to potential future managers at the club. It's part of the job and a natural mental process. Even before the split the Board will have turned their minds to Clough's successor simply because the team performances were disappointing. The Board itself will have a succession plan for every senior position in the club and should have an "emergency procedure" for every circumstance.

When the manager suddenly leaves, voluntarily or otherwise, the procedure should click into place. I recall McCabe saying at the impromptu meeting when he invited us protestors in from the car park, that he had coveted Wilson from his first year at Barnsley and was delighted to finally get his man.

There are some big questions about this new appointment process.:

1. Is McCabe involved at all? I suspect not.
2. Is Brannagan involved? I would not be surprised either way.
3. If the new owner is involved how on earth does he start and what advice will he take and from whom? There's a thought!

Whoever is leading the process, where do they look?

* Recently retired player with obvious leadership qualities?
* Young manager with a year's success at another smaller club?
* Experienced out of work manager?
* Experienced manager in another job?
* English, Scottish, other European country, wider Northern Hemisphere, Southern Hemisphere?
* League 1 experience?
* Male or female?!
* Somebody to take us right through to Europe?!


Of all the decisions the Board ever make this is the most important when it arises. No matter how much money the owners invest, how well the club is run, how good the Academy is, how massive the fan base - the quality of the manager determines the level of success.

Everybody's enjoyment of their favourite hobby, of their beloved club, rests on what happens these next few days; history in the making.

A number of other clubs are actively searching for a new manager too.

Where do they start?


Listening to today's interviews it appears Phipps led the search and it was Brannagan who rang Adkins to invite him for interview.

McCabe confirmed he had approached Adkins two years or so ago but he was not ready to come - thats that ongoing process that never stops with mental stored note after note for next time. KM said he made various enquiries of others about Adkins that previous time too.

As for type of manager we've got - out of work but with various promotions on his CV at three levels. Experience in Premier League. Good age, good interpersonal skills, well presented, positive. Three promotions from League 1 - what a scoop!!, more ticked boxes than we would have expected, way more.
 
Listening to today's interviews it appears Phipps led the search and it was Brannagan who rang Adkins to invite him for interview.

McCabe confirmed he had approached Adkins two years or so ago but he was not ready to come - thats that ongoing process that never stops with mental stored note after note for next time. KM said he made various enquiries of others about Adkins that previous time too.

As for type of manager we've got - out of work but with various promotions on his CV at three levels. Experience in Premier League. Good age, good interpersonal skills, well presented, positive. Three promotions from League 1 - what a scoop!!, more ticked boxes than we would have expected, way more.

The set of players we have need a positive guy, who knows what pieces are missing. Murphy, Adams, Cuvellier, Reed, Adams, Basham, Brayford when fit, Harris are good enough for this division. They just need a guy to have confidence in them.

Step up #positivenigel
 



The set of players we have need a positive guy, who knows what pieces are missing. Murphy, Adams, Cuvellier, Reed, Adams, Basham, Brayford when fit, Harris are good enough for this division. They just need a guy to have confidence in them.

Step up #positivenigel

I'd add Done, McNulty, Alcock, Flynn, Kennedy, Howard, Freeman, Baxter, maybe Scougall and just possibly Coutts to that list. It's height, muscle and game-changers we need to add.
 

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