Whats the crowd going to be ?

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I would imagine the figure will be 27,000 or so. Pretty much the same as if the upper tier was open, but empty seats will be very visible in one area.
 

mattbianco1 said:
Pricing and timing isn't helping things here either.

Season ticket renewal deadline was just 2 weeks ago. There's potentially a trip to Wembley in 2 weeks. Holidays etc...

As an example, my brother goes with 3 kids - 2x Young Adults and 1x U18.
For the four of them tonight he has paid £102 to sit in their season ticket seats. That's before any food and drink.

Tickets to Wembley will be at least double that in just a couple of weeks and that's before any travel costs.
An open return on Sat. 24th May - Sheffield to Wembley Central for those 4 is £190 - £250 depending on departure time.
We don't even know the Kick Off time yet, so can't purchase off-peak etc. or select a designated return train.

They didn't, but if they had been to the away leg too, you're looking at >£600 outlay before food and drink
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But this applies to the other 3 clubs in the Play offs, and I wouldn't say those Cities are any more affluent than Sheffield is.Also although we have two clubs in Sheffield, our population is greater than these other Cities I believe!
 
@25k
Sky instructed not to show the empty sections and people will be leaving ten minutes before the end
 
Koh Samui Blade said:
But this applies to the other 3 clubs in the Play offs, and I wouldn't say those Cities are any more affluent than Sheffield is.Also although we have two clubs in Sheffield, our population is greater than these other Cities I believe!
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I would guess that Bristol is a wealthier city to Sheffield. But this doesn't excuse the extortion of ticketing prices in the English game... you can't say - "well it's Fulham v Chelsea so charge £500 a ticket". It's absolutely diabolical how much tickets cost in this country, particularly at Wembley.

Here are Oxford's ticket pricing for their League 1 Play Off Final in 2024:

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That then gets even worse for the Championship. Here are Southampton's prices versus Leeds:

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That means for a family of 4 (2 u17s and 2 adults), the absolute CHEAPEST tickets they can get at Wembley will cost £111. That involves sitting in the gods (dark blue on the map below).

To sit on the bottom tier, the cheapest that family of 4 can pay is £201 (Green seats).

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The fact that the cheapest ticket for a 10 year old is £18.50 on the third tier is diabolical.
How can young kids see what's going on and get a feel for it from way up there?

This is Dark blue category:

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It's beyond time for English football matchday price caps
 
metalblade said:
Just one thing we aren't Bournemouth we don't have multi billionaire owners who see the club as a plaything as they do. When Bournemouth's owner loses interest in bankrolling them the whole pack of cards will collapse and they will return to where they came from League One, 10k attendances will do them no good at all when that happens.
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We don't actually know what our owners are. But they won't mind as they never had more than 10k fans before and they won't have it after.

It's same as man city dont sell out, they don't have the numbers for it, and who cares lol.
 
Inter_blade83 said:
37 quid is a hard sell for a dead rubber. Yes the club didn't know the outcome of the 1st leg when setting prices, BUT 37 quid is a hard sell for most anyways.

Once again, the club have misread the situation regarding ticket sales.

Also, one way to increase take up would have been to say, if you buy a ticket for the semi final, you're guaranteed a final ticket.
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Prices not set by the club but by the EFL. As I understand it the blades wanted lower prices but the others wouldnt agree to it.
 
mattbianco1 said:
It's beyond time for English football matchday price caps
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You hear this a lot but the FA and clubs will just say the evidence suggest otherwise.

Take Liverpool. If it was £30 a match they’d have over 100K wanting to buy tickets.
At £40 they’d have 80K trying to buy tickets. At £50 they’ll have 60K wanting tickets, at £100 they’d have 25K wanting tickets.
Their ground has a capacity of 60,000, so pricing tickets at £50 is economically accurate.

If people think there needs to be price caps then stop going….its the only way the FA will act…..if several of their games are well under capacity
But we’re a long way from that……if anything….the prices are going up and football is even more popular with even more demand.
 
Sheffsteel said:
You hear this a lot but the FA and clubs will just say the evidence suggest otherwise.

Take Liverpool. If it was £30 a match they’d have over 100K wanting to buy tickets.
At £40 they’d have 80K trying to buy tickets. At £50 they’ll have 60K wanting tickets, at £100 they’d have 25K wanting tickets.
Their ground has a capacity of 60,000, so pricing tickets at £50 is economically accurate.

If people think there needs to be price caps then stop going….its the only way the FA will act…..if several of their games are well under capacity
But we’re a long way from that……if anything….the prices are going up and football is even more popular with even more demand.
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I disagree with your post entirely.

Football clubs shouldn’t price tickets purely based on demand - they have a responsibility to keep the sport accessible to all.
Just because Liverpool are a huge and successful club doesn’t mean their supporters should pay a premium for following them. Football has deep working-class roots, and pricing lifelong fans out goes against the culture of the game.

Some fans even go into debt to afford big occasions like a Wembley trip for the family, relying on credit cards or loans just to experience a moment their club rarely gets. Middle-to-lower league teams don’t often get these "days out," making them even more special - but instead of allowing all fans to enjoy them, inflated prices turn them into financial burdens.

The idea that people should "just stop going" to force change is unrealistic - fans won’t abandon their clubs to make a point. Instead of relying on boycotts, pressure should be placed on the FA and clubs to introduce fairer price caps and regulations, ensuring football remains a sport for all, not just a corporate spectacle driven by profit.

The best thing about the Premier League is the £30 away ticket price cap. They should force that for home tickets too.

What you're describing is almost like the dynamic pricing model that ticketmaster used for the Oasis tickets. It's exploitation and nothing else

There's a reason why average attendances in the top 2 German leagues run at >90% of capacity and it's not due to high-priced/high demand tickets. It's because it is accessible to all.
 
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mattbianco1 said:
I disagree with your post entirely.

Football clubs shouldn’t price tickets purely based on demand - they have a responsibility to keep the sport accessible to all.
Just because Liverpool are a huge and successful club doesn’t mean their supporters should pay a premium for following them. Football has deep working-class roots, and pricing lifelong fans out goes against the culture of the game.

Some fans even go into debt to afford big occasions like a Wembley trip for the family, relying on credit cards or loans just to experience a moment their club rarely gets. Middle-to-lower league teams don’t often get these "days out," making them even more special - but instead of allowing all fans to enjoy them, inflated prices turn them into financial burdens.

The idea that people should "just stop going" to force change is unrealistic - fans won’t abandon their clubs to make a point. Instead of relying on boycotts, pressure should be placed on the FA and clubs to introduce fairer price caps and regulations, ensuring football remains a sport for all, not just a corporate spectacle driven by profit.

The best thing about the Premier League is the £30 away ticket price cap. They should force that for home tickets too.

What you're describing is almost like the dynamic pricing model that ticketmaster used for the Oasis tickets. It's exploitation and nothing else

There's a reason why average attendances in the top 2 German leagues run at >90% of capacity and it's not due to high-priced/high demand tickets. It's because it is accessible to all.
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Fully agree ^^^^^^^ 💯
 
mattbianco1 said:
I disagree with your post entirely.

Football clubs shouldn’t price tickets purely based on demand - they have a responsibility to keep the sport accessible to all.
Just because Liverpool are a huge and successful club doesn’t mean their supporters should pay a premium for following them. Football has deep working-class roots, and pricing lifelong fans out goes against the culture of the game.

Some fans even go into debt to afford big occasions like a Wembley trip for the family, relying on credit cards or loans just to experience a moment their club rarely gets. Middle-to-lower league teams don’t often get these "days out," making them even more special - but instead of allowing all fans to enjoy them, inflated prices turn them into financial burdens.

The idea that people should "just stop going" to force change is unrealistic - fans won’t abandon their clubs to make a point. Instead of relying on boycotts, pressure should be placed on the FA and clubs to introduce fairer price caps and regulations, ensuring football remains a sport for all, not just a corporate spectacle driven by profit.

The best thing about the Premier League is the £30 away ticket price cap. They should force that for home tickets too.

What you're describing is almost like the dynamic pricing model that ticketmaster used for the Oasis tickets. It's exploitation and nothing else

There's a reason why average attendances in the top 2 German leagues run at >90% of capacity and it's not due to high-priced/high demand tickets. It's because it is accessible to all.
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Further, the money is not invested in a run of the mill Capitalist way anyway. The Capitalism argument doesn't work. The extra £s from ticket prices aren't going to shareholders or the sole owners or even the vast majority of workers at a football club. Nor infrastructure or the grass roots. They're going directly into the pocket of football players and their representatives.

Football is not run like a normal entertainment industry where the goal is to make a profit and only give your workers a % of your turnover. Every £ a ticket goes up is yet another £ in a footballer's sky rocket; nothing more, nothing less. Then the owners are putting big money in too. A line needs drawing.

The football clubs in the top two tiers should agree on a set price for tickets that is affordable for the working classes and agree not to be competitive with each other on this particular income stream. Like the Premier League has done with away tickets.
 
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Sheffsteel said:
To be fair think attendances are important
Because if the fans lack ambition then it’s doesn’t exactly encourage the owners to show ambition.

I’ve said this before…the Sheffield mentality prefers cheap and cheerful instead of quality.
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God that’s so true, a good old friend of mine has a small business he travels between Sheffield and Stockport the first question a Sheffielder asks is price related and discount for cash where as across the Pennines they ask about suitability price is secondary.
 
Inter_blade83 said:
37 quid is a hard sell for a dead rubber. Yes the club didn't know the outcome of the 1st leg when setting prices, BUT 37 quid is a hard sell for most anyways.

Once again, the club have misread the situation regarding ticket sales.

Also, one way to increase take up would have been to say, if you buy a ticket for the semi final, you're guaranteed a final ticket.
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If you want a ticket for the final you are guaranteed one pretty much as our allocation will be higher than our average attendance or even our ground capacity
 
Our play off history will always affect the attendance for tonight and Wembley. That on top of our recent history of unsuccessful big games will always result in disappointing attendances.

What counts most though is the numbers who turn up week in week out at the Lane and that is the envy of most in this division.

We’re not big game once or twice a season glory hunters like across the city.
 
mattbianco1 said:
I disagree with your post entirely.

Football clubs shouldn’t price tickets purely based on demand - they have a responsibility to keep the sport accessible to all.
Just because Liverpool are a huge and successful club doesn’t mean their supporters should pay a premium for following them. Football has deep working-class roots, and pricing lifelong fans out goes against the culture of the game.

Some fans even go into debt to afford big occasions like a Wembley trip for the family, relying on credit cards or loans just to experience a moment their club rarely gets. Middle-to-lower league teams don’t often get these "days out," making them even more special - but instead of allowing all fans to enjoy them, inflated prices turn them into financial burdens.

The idea that people should "just stop going" to force change is unrealistic - fans won’t abandon their clubs to make a point. Instead of relying on boycotts, pressure should be placed on the FA and clubs to introduce fairer price caps and regulations, ensuring football remains a sport for all, not just a corporate spectacle driven by profit.

The best thing about the Premier League is the £30 away ticket price cap. They should force that for home tickets too.

What you're describing is almost like the dynamic pricing model that ticketmaster used for the Oasis tickets. It's exploitation and nothing else

There's a reason why average attendances in the top 2 German leagues run at >90% of capacity and it's not due to high-priced/high demand tickets. It's because it is accessible to all.
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Great post.
 
Flumps said:
Attendance figures are for clubs who have fuck all else to worry about to obsess over.

Who cares
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Exactly mate. Proof of that is on Porktalk tonight. Nipped over to take a look at their reaction to our great achievement and they’re in meltdown with bitter and twisted remarks about our attendance. Quite hilarious. If they concentrated more on supporting their team rather than attendances they may one day in the far distant future have something to be optimistic about.
 

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