"What the fucking hell was that"

[Foxy]

*And* that looked like a very clear penalty in the second half when <Blade> was tripped in the corner of their box.

Freeman?

I've got it on video so will have another look shortly... In real time at the game, I've certainly seen them given.

 

[Foxy]

*And* that looked like a very clear penalty in the second half when <Blade> was tripped in the corner of their box.

See http://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?media/scunthorpe-united-away-2014-2015.85/

 

[Blade82]

See http://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?media/scunthorpe-united-away-2014-2015.85/

Pen. if it happens on the halfway line he'd have give us a free kick, bottled it.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

From what I can gather it sounds as though we actually played ok but that's not really good enough when you look at the bigger picture unfortunately. It's so disappointing that we're seemingly sleepwalking towards the end of the season - we seem to be missing a spark and some leaders.

I thought Brayford was a million quids worth of a leader? Or could that be wrong?

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

Freeman?

I've got it on video so will have another look shortly... In real time at the game, I've certainly seen them given.

Can't see the video that well on my phone but it looked absolutely clear to me and Foulkes Jr Sr. It was a clumsy nothing challenge but it was a foul and it was in the box. Penalty.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Nigel? Is that you?

I think its Morgan.

 

[Silent Blade]

A Gary Sprake moment?

I posted this link in Shoutbox this affy just after the disallowed goal

http://www.mightyleeds.co.uk/matches/19671209.htm

 

[Jonboy60]

Can't fathom this squad out. A handful of individuals who wouldn't look out of place in championship sides, most would walk into any league one team. I've seen them play top premiership teams off the park more than once. I don't think there commitment, work rate or attitude is lacking either.

I think we lack a nasty streak at times but that, in itself, doesn't explain the constant mediocrity we dish up against poor teams.

I thought we lacked goals, we added them and now we seem to be shipping them at the other end - from on extreme to the other.

Frustrating as hell.

(I think we lack a nasty streak at times), That right there, not one yellow, 1 of only 3 teams today in this poxy league not to pick up a booking, the other 2 languishing mid table. We are trying to stay in the play offs for fucks sake. Are we that disciplined, at the same time trying to be competitive, that we don't get any players cautioned.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

(I think we lack a nasty streak at times), That right there, not one yellow, 1 of only 3 teams today in this poxy league not to pick up a booking, the other 2 languishing mid table. We are trying to stay in the play offs for fucks sake. Are we that disciplined, at the same time trying to be competitive, that we don't get any players cautioned.

A quick look on the BBC website and the 4 teams above us, including Preston, have broadly similar disciplinary records over the season.

Basham is out for two games for his bookings. That's really costing us.

 

[Jonboy60]

A quick look on the BBC website and the 4 teams above us, including Preston, have broadly similar disciplinary records over the season.

Basham is out for two games for his bookings. That's really costing us.

I get your point WHF, but at the moment each match should be treated as a cup final, that means getting stuck in, making tackles. Not advocating getting red or even yellow cards, but if only 50% of bookings in league one today were for bad or mistimed tackles, it shows a level of commitment. Or were we just lucky today.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

I posted this link in Shoutbox this affy just after the disallowed goal

http://www.mightyleeds.co.uk/matches/19671209.htm

Worse than Gary Sprake?

If I recall Sprake chucked the ball into his own. He changed his mind about throwing it out to one of his team's players tried to gather it, missed, and in it went.

From the far end as far as we coudl tell Turner today just dropped a very poor, entirely non-dangerous, and completely unthreatening cross into his own net. Soft doesn't even begin to describe it.

But we got away with it.

And after that he made a decent save at his near post.

This could be some kind of Masterplan. Word is out and now everyone is shooting at his near post. He knows what's coming and can calmly and confidently save the day.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

I get your point WHF, but at the moment each match should be treated as a cup final, that means getting stuck in, making tackles. Not advocating getting red or even yellow cards, but if only 50% of bookings in league one today were for bad or mistimed tackles, it shows a level of commitment. Or were we just lucky today.

At one point McEveley got a long talking to, and I half wondered if it might have been in preparation for a red card as their player was through on goal (well sort of - and it was on the half way line), but as it turned out: nothing.

Bob took someone out pretty cynically the other week and got carded for it. I've seen this a couple of times. I don't think we're lacking in cynicism/"professionalism" at least some of the time.

That said we definitely lack a(nother) ball winner in midfield.

Wonder what others think, bc I seem to have been at a different game today.

 

[Jonboy60]

At one point McEveley got a long talking to, and I half wondered if it might have been in preparation for a red card as their player was through on goal (well sort of - and it was on the half way line), but as it turned out: nothing.

Bob took someone out pretty cynically the other week and got carded for it. I've seen this a couple of times. I don't think we're lacking in cynicism/"professionalism" at least some of the time.

That said we definitely lack a(nother) ball winner in midfield.

Wonder what others think, bc I seem to have been at a different game today.

I'm conceding the point WHF, not been today. So I'm in no place to comment.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

not been today. So I'm in no place to comment.

I have been today and judging from other posts I'm still in no place to comment.

Honestly came away from the game optimistic.

Cheers and UTB

 

[BocaBlade]

I have been today and judging from other posts I'm still in no place to comment.

Honestly came away from the game optimistic.

Cheers and UTB

living in florida I have to listen to all the games over t'internet, listened to praise or grumble and all I hear are muppets wanting clough out now. nice to read the comments here who seem to have their feet on the ground. yes we should/could be doing better, but I do think we are heading in the right direction.

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

From what I can gather it sounds as though we actually played ok but that's not really good enough when you look at the bigger picture unfortunately. It's so disappointing that we're seemingly sleepwalking towards the end of the season - we seem to be missing a spark and some leaders.

Late in the first half Freeman got pushed over by (i think) Madden into the away end while off the field. Made the point to step-son that if we'd had any proper team spirit he'd have ten of his team mates around Madden wanting to batter the little shit, not one of um backed him up, and Freeman.. shook hands with Madden and jogged back up field. As a team we lack drive, spirit, commitment, leaders. Doyle does it a bit and Davies put himself around well today but as a team we are a team of shrinking violets.

 

[Borbokisfreekick]

We don't win 50/50's anymore. I've only been watching us for 20 years but i've never known a Blades side be as soft as this one. Doyle and at times Harris and Davies aside there's just no battle in there when the chips are down.

Sounds just like our fans, no bottle when the chips are down. If our own fans are chanting what the fucking hell was that, and booing every mistake, the players are hardly going to be inspired when things aren't going their way.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

At one point McEveley got a long talking to, and I half wondered if it might have been in preparation for a red card as their player was through on goal (well sort of - and it was on the half way line), but as it turned out: nothing.

Bob took someone out pretty cynically the other week and got carded for it. I've seen this a couple of times. I don't think we're lacking in cynicism/"professionalism" at least some of the time.

That said we definitely lack a(nother) ball winner in midfield.

Wonder what others think, bc I seem to have been at a different game today.

WHF , i saw a game where yet again we were unable to break down average opposition , and take full advantage of our possession.

We do not have the right balance and it is obvious why Turner is a second choice goalkeeper . We are missing a commanding CH and midfielder , which is obvious as the season is nearing the end .

Yes we do have some great chances , but this is levelled out by the chances the opposition have.

This situation Imo is not going to get better but worst. We have to remember the players are very tired , injuries , suspensions , the cup runs are now affecting us - Clough words not mine.

Is Clough making excuses for the players or himself - 6 million dollar question.

UTB

 

[YES Blade]

Sounds just like our fans, no bottle when the chips are down. If our own fans are chanting what the fucking hell was that, and booing every mistake, the players are hardly going to be inspired when things aren't going their way.

The booing and chanting was only after the final whistle, so that excuse can't be made for the players.

Anyway, I thought it was only at home where the fans got on the players backs?

 

[Lane Ender]

The booing and chanting was only after the final whistle, so that excuse can't be made for the players.

Anyway, I thought it was only at home where the fans got on the players backs?

It must be bad when the away blades show their contempt.

 

[Lane Ender]

living in florida I have to listen to all the games over t'internet, listened to praise or grumble and all I hear are muppets wanting clough out now. nice to read the comments here who seem to have their feet on the ground. yes we should/could be doing better, but I do think we are heading in the right direction.

I can assure you we are defiantly not going in the right direction.
I genuinely wish I could report the opposite but I can't .

 

[FleaPitBlade]

I don't think its a lack of fight. The nasty streak comment was more that we lack a protective force on the pitch.

Somebody to protect Murphy/Reed/Scougall et al.

If I lined up against SUFC I'd be thinking I'd piss the 'battle' even if I was lacking in finesse. We need a terrifying 6'4 brick shithouse to put themselves between man and ball and allow whichever trio of midgets to strut their stuff. If somebod spends 90 minutes harrasing Murphy then who do they answer to?

Its less important at a higher level but a big weakness in League One and probably why our better performances are when we have Bash inidfield and Kennedy at centre half. The spineis a bit more imposing.

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

WHF , i saw a game where yet again we were unable to break down average opposition , and take full advantage of our possession.
UTB

We had several good chances first and second half. So did they in the second half, but I don't recognise this descroption of us not breaking down the opposition. As posted elsewhere: Reed had a 1v1, there were 3 or 4 other in the first half, Holt had two good chances, the Beard took his air shot, and Davies created something out of nothing for himself.

The problem yesterday, for me, was at the other end.

We do not have the right balance and it is obvious why Turner is a second choice goalkeeper . We are missing a commanding CH and midfielder , which is obvious as the season is nearing the end

I agree with this but to me it says we haven't got a limitless budget: we're a third division team. I don't see this as the management's fault. Each time a weakness has become apparent they looked to fix it eg Done as a goalscorer, O'Grady and now Davies as a 'target man'. If we could plug all the gaps all the time then we'd be a much stronger team in a higher division.

We have to remember the players are very tired , injuries , suspensions , the cup runs are now affecting us - Clough words not mine.

And that will be happening to the opposition as well. The size (in numbers at any rate) of our squad - again put in place to cover this - means we can often replace players without a huge drop in quality. I don't think it's realistic to ask for us to always be able to do that.

Is Clough making excuses for the players or himself - 6 million dollar question. UTB

Or is he not making excuses at all - and just analysing the situation realistically. I'd say so.

A bit of a rushed response but I was really optimistic after yesterday, mainly bc of the difference Davies made.

(That said, according to roygbiv's view from Blackpool their fans said he was a Mardy Bum. There was definite evidence of that yesterday.)

Something at Walsall, then 7 or 9 points from 3 consecutive home games including a hammering of someone.

UTB

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

I can assure you we are defiantly not going in the right direction.
I genuinely wish I could report the opposite but I can't .

This is a matter of opinion and I strongly disagree.

(If we get on the players backs it'll become a self-fulfilling prophecy.)

 

[grafikhaus]

This situation Imo is not going to get better but worst. We have to remember the players are very tired , injuries , suspensions , the cup runs are now affecting us - Clough words not mine.

Utter bollocks (what Clough is saying, not you LBofE ). The last Cup game (Spurs at home) was nearly seven weeks ago! Don't notice Bradford running out of steam. The excuses are wearing very thin.

Is Clough making excuses for the players or himself - 6 million dollar question.

UTB

Both but, as he's nominally 'in charge' and bought most of these players, the buck stops with him.

Now, where do I claim my 6 billion dollars? (BTW, it's 'inflation gone mad'. The original was 'Sixty-four thousand dollar question'.)

 

[William Henry Foulkes]

It must be bad when the away blades show their contempt.

Not all the away Blades did, by any means.

 

[YES Blade]

Not all the away Blades did, by any means.

It was definitely the majority and the players clearly heard it as they didn't come anywhere near the away end at the final whistle.

 

[breeny]

It was definitely the majority and the players clearly heard it as they didn't come anywhere near the away end at the final whistle.

That's a shame to hear - too many divisions at the moment. We need to be more UNITED - sorry to sound cheesy

 

[Lane Ender]

This is a matter of opinion and I strongly disagree.

(If we get on the players backs it'll become a self-fulfilling prophecy.)

I've sat through every home game this year if you can take any positives from our performances well I must be watching a different team.
If we did fluke promotion the mind boggles how he would tackle the Championship.
We won't be promoted however under this incompitant idiot in I must be patient and wait for his inevitable dismissal.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

Can't see the video that well on my phone but it looked absolutely clear to me and Foulkes Jr Sr. It was a clumsy nothing challenge but it was a foul and it was in the box. Penalty.

I was on row c and it was right in front of me - definite penalty for me