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Did anyone hear CW's interview after the game on RS ?
Because its wound them up on Porktalk,
Apparently he said

Set off with we in a good place if money needed in january

Then went on to say we not under an embargo


Then said cant believe how they get away with ffp.
 



He basically said what most people think, that is until they support a club that is trying to con their way out of FFP. At which point they get resentful of people who criticise over spending and claim the system is unfair as it prevents wealthy owners spending whatever the hell they want.

In any case why shouldn't he have a dig at the pork? He is a dyed in the wool Blade and it goes with the territory as far as I am concerned. It's just brilliant how much he gets under their skin, they claim to hate him but at the same time are jealous to death of us for having him. They can't quite process it, so just lash out. :D
 
Yeah - I can’t believe how some clubs just keep spending. We were talking at work on Friday about Derby. For the last seasons I can remember they have always had ‘expensive’ players. Which then got us questioning, can a chairman just keep gifting cash to avoid FFP ?
 
“I’d like not to spend because that means the team is in a good position but if we have to we’re in a good position. We’re not in trouble with Financial Fair Play, we’re not gonna get an embargo”

As usual them on the other side of the city think he’s talking about them cos they’ve got an inferiority complex!
 
S6 Blade said:
“I’d like not to spend because that means the team is in a good position but if we have to we’re in a good position. We’re not in trouble with Financial Fair Play, we’re not gonna get an embargo”

As usual them on the other side of the city think he’s talking about them cos they’ve got an inferiority complex!
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No, they have a completely unjustified superiority complex.
 
I don’t give a toss what them piggies think. With CW and AK we are doing it the right way. Yes, some spending but in a controlled manner. I love CWAK!
 
As we were playing against Villa and they have spent like mad in the last 2 seasons albeit with the benefit of the PL parachute still I would imagine he's referring to them.

Even with the parachute money Villa will be up against the FFP cap at the end of this season unless they are promoted.

If it is a dig at the pigs then it's justified, how on earth they've managed to convince some muppet at the EFL that they won't breach FFP this season and have been allowed to loan players in is beyond me.
 
I'm amazed that Radio Sheffield found the time for a CW interview because - since Chansiri basically told RS to fuck off - the phone-ins have been dominated by pig callers. I get it, they're hurting over our success and are trying to invent reasons to suggest they're as good as us. Having watched us supplement our squad with very good loan players (Woodburn, Henderson etc.) they've copied us. One caller on Wednesday Heaven last night suggested that their two loan players, Hector and Onomah (me neither) would 'fit straight into the Premier League' :rolleyes:. They're on a roll, having beaten Millwall (16th), Reading (next to bottom) and Ipswich (rock-bottom) and all is well in Wednesday World.

Wednesday (and Villa) need reminding that, without money that we can only dream about, without bending FFP rules, they'd be where they belong. In the third division.
 



Broomhall Blade said:
Did anyone hear CW's interview after the game on RS ?
Because its wound them up on Porktalk,
Apparently he said

Set off with we in a good place if money needed in january

Then went on to say we not under an embargo


Then said cant believe how they get away with ffp.
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His comments were general and talked about the EFL.

There are plenty of other clubs doing what Wednesday have done and plenty have gone through, going through or will go through embargos. Wilder has stated that our club won't be one of them and he said that the place we're at just now means the he's forever balancing the books, but we're stronger now than we were.

To be honest, the recent interviews with Wilder are amongst the best and most relaxed i've listened to. Results help of course, but he genuinely seems to feel that we're in a better place as a club and a team.
 
They're a precious lot over in S6 and all too ready to take offence.

They flatter themselves that they're so important that Wilder could only have been referring to them, when the likelihood is that he actually had half of the division in mind. This season we see examples like Forest, fresh out of an embargo but throwing money around like turds in an effort to emulate the Wolves model although, fortunately, with an inferior and negative manager and Blackburn returning from League 1, where their financial problems dumped them in the first place, and now doing daft things like spending £7m on a mediocre striker.

That said the Pigs are plainly in a group with the likes of QPR and Birmingham who are teetering on the brink, but despite that, are still not properly getting their houses in order.

If, as is widely understood, the Pigs have already exhausted their '£37m loses over 3 seasons' in the space of just the last 2 seasons, then they now need to have a season this year where they return a profit. Presumably, they have given the EFL a plan of how they intend to achieve this in order to have their embargo lifted and yet, all that has then happened is that they have then thrown a couple of new (and presumably improved) contracts at a couple of key players, sold nobody (although the reality may well be that nobody wants to buy the sort of overpaid depreciating assets that they have assembled in their squad), and now added a couple more wages to the bill. All in a climate of declining gates and falling revenue.

Given that they have been making losses of c.£20m in the last couple of seasons on the basis of bigger gates and a wage bill that they still have, there will have to be some pretty spectacular sales (i.e. In January) before the next day of reckoning to the EFL arrives but what assets do they truly have?
 
He was quite clearly referring to the club we had just played, whose financial position and changes over the summer is of no surprise.

Let the paranoid pigs think its about them though. They're on the back of wins against the division's relegation candidates, so there's no stopping them now.
 
grafikhaus said:
I'm amazed that Radio Sheffield found the time for a CW interview because - since Chansiri basically told RS to fuck off - the phone-ins have been dominated by pig callers. I get it, they're hurting over our success and are trying to invent reasons to suggest they're as good as us. Having watched us supplement our squad with very good loan players (Woodburn, Henderson etc.) they've copied us. One caller on Wednesday Heaven last night suggested that their two loan players, Hector and Onomah (me neither) would 'fit straight into the Premier League' :rolleyes:. They're on a roll, having beaten Millwall (16th), Reading (next to bottom) and Ipswich (rock-bottom) and all is well in Wednesday World.

Wednesday (and Villa) need reminding that, without money that we can only dream about, without bending FFP rules, they'd be where they belong. In the third division.[/QUOTE

Exactly one fan on Porktalk who knows a Spurs season ticket holder who told him that Spurs see Onomah as the new Harry Kane :eek:.
Their young goal keeper and Defender are going to be stars, Reach is Premiership Class, even Palmer who they were slagging off two weeks ago is now solid Championship defender, and i think they might all be off to get Borat tattoos Jos is that wonderful now.
HMS Piss the league was even mentioned on one thread.
As you have said they have just played 3 poor teams, their next seven games are against Stoke, Forest, Villa, Leeds, WBA, Bristol City, Middlesbrough.
Thats the difference between us and them, i have not seen anyone mention promotion even though we are 3rd just 2 points off top. While over on Porktalk they think its on, and go looking for form tables to justify their confidence even though the said form table is not entirely accurate.
It just shows the difference between the two sets of fans.
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LS16Blade said:
They're a precious lot over in S6 and all too ready to take offence.

They flatter themselves that they're so important that Wilder could only have been referring to them, when the likelihood is that he actually had half of the division in mind. This season we see examples like Forest, fresh out of an embargo but throwing money around like turds in an effort to emulate the Wolves model although, fortunately, with an inferior and negative manager and Blackburn returning from League 1, where their financial problems dumped them in the first place, and now doing daft things like spending £7m on a mediocre striker.

That said the Pigs are plainly in a group with the likes of QPR and Birmingham who are teetering on the brink, but despite that, are still not properly getting their houses in order.

If, as is widely understood, the Pigs have already exhausted their '£37m loses over 3 seasons' in the space of just the last 2 seasons, then they now need to have a season this year where they return a profit. Presumably, they have given the EFL a plan of how they intend to achieve this in order to have their embargo lifted and yet, all that has then happened is that they have then thrown a couple of new (and presumably improved) contracts at a couple of key players, sold nobody (although the reality may well be that nobody wants to buy the sort of overpaid depreciating assets that they have assembled in their squad), and now added a couple more wages to the bill. All in a climate of declining gates and falling revenue.

Given that they have been making losses of c.£20m in the last couple of seasons on the basis of bigger gates and a wage bill that they still have, there will have to be some pretty spectacular sales (i.e. In January) before the next day of reckoning to the EFL arrives but what assets do they truly have?
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Excellent post - summed it up nicely.
 
Ever since last season when they humiliated themselves with their pre season comments Wednesday fans have gone through terrible mental anguish. Us being better them came totally out the blue and they simply weren't prepared for it.

They are now in a sort of minor PTSD phase and paranoia has taken over from shock. I've never seen a fan base be so utterly shell shocked by a season and the effects are still ongoing.
 
Broomhall Blade said:
Did anyone hear CW's interview after the game on RS ?
Because its wound them up on Porktalk,
Apparently he said

Set off with we in a good place if money needed in january

Then went on to say we not under an embargo


Then said cant believe how they get away with ffp.
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Surely his barbed comments about an embargo and ffp were aimed at Villa, given it was a post match interview after playing them, the money they have recently spent and the players they have signed.
 
I don't usually get into a row with my Piggy mates, but one of them got a rise out of me last week regarding the general position of Sheffield football.

PIG Opinion:

- United fans giddy over Washington, lol
- Kieran Lee would walk into Uniteds middle
- Barry Bannan > John Fleck
- Chansiri was right to spunk loads of £££ to get promotion
- Failing to do so IS NOT an underachievement
- United could go insolvent if Ownership isnt resolved this season

(and saving best, most educated opinion until last)..?
- "Least we know who our owner is"


The funny thing is said pal is one of the more level headed football fans I know but he will not acknowledge any embarassment by being outmanouvred by a club they label "pub team" that runs on a fraction of their budget, not to mention the gulf in style of football we play.

They truly are a deluded bunch.
 
Deadly_D'Jaffo said:
I don't usually get into a row with my Piggy mates, but one of them got a rise out of me last week regarding the general position of Sheffield football.

PIG Opinion:

- United fans giddy over Washington, lol
- Kieran Lee would walk into Uniteds middle
- Barry Bannan > John Fleck
- Chansiri was right to spunk loads of £££ to get promotion
- Failing to do so IS NOT an underachievement
- United could go insolvent if Ownership isnt resolved this season

(and saving best, most educated opinion until last)..?
- "Least we know who our owner is"


The funny thing is said pal is one of the more level headed football fans I know but he will not acknowledge any embarassment by being outmanouvred by a club they label "pub team" that runs on a fraction of their budget, not to mention the gulf in style of football we play.

They truly are a deluded bunch.
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Haha ! - they're very rattled at the moment aren't they ? did he have this glazed look in his eyes and he iterated the above, almost like he'd been radicalised ?? :)
 
FYT said:
Surely his barbed comments about an embargo and ffp were aimed at Villa, given it was a post match interview after playing them, the money they have recently spent and the players they have signed.
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Thats what i would have thought, i guess they are just a little sensative down S6.
 
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LS16Blade said:
They're a precious lot over in S6 and all too ready to take offence.

They flatter themselves that they're so important that Wilder could only have been referring to them, when the likelihood is that he actually had half of the division in mind. This season we see examples like Forest, fresh out of an embargo but throwing money around like turds in an effort to emulate the Wolves model although, fortunately, with an inferior and negative manager and Blackburn returning from League 1, where their financial problems dumped them in the first place, and now doing daft things like spending £7m on a mediocre striker.

That said the Pigs are plainly in a group with the likes of QPR and Birmingham who are teetering on the brink, but despite that, are still not properly getting their houses in order.

If, as is widely understood, the Pigs have already exhausted their '£37m loses over 3 seasons' in the space of just the last 2 seasons, then they now need to have a season this year where they return a profit. Presumably, they have given the EFL a plan of how they intend to achieve this in order to have their embargo lifted and yet, all that has then happened is that they have then thrown a couple of new (and presumably improved) contracts at a couple of key players, sold nobody (although the reality may well be that nobody wants to buy the sort of overpaid depreciating assets that they have assembled in their squad), and now added a couple more wages to the bill. All in a climate of declining gates and falling revenue.

Given that they have been making losses of c.£20m in the last couple of seasons on the basis of bigger gates and a wage bill that they still have, there will have to be some pretty spectacular sales (i.e. In January) before the next day of reckoning to the EFL arrives but what assets do they truly have?
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For me, absolutely spot on! Great post. They don't have any saleable assets to help them out of this mess.

And Wilder's comments are general...
 
Large Mendonca said:
Haha ! - they're very rattled at the moment aren't they ? did he have this glazed look in his eyes and he iterated the above, almost like he'd been radicalised ?? :)
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You jest with the "radicalised" comment but if he had the blind admiration for anything else quite like he does for Chansiri, you'd be seeking a Therapist or planning an intervention surrounded by concerned loved ones who care for him.

He beleived/beleives that Chansiri took some sort of heroic stand against the BBC for refusing to accept their broadcasting fee.
 
Deadly_D'Jaffo said:
You jest with the "radicalised" comment but if he had the blind admiration for anything else quite like he does for Chansiri, you'd be seeking a Therapist or planning an intervention surrounded by concerned loved ones who care for him.

He beleived/beleives that Chansiri took some sort of heroic stand against the BBC for refusing to accept their broadcasting fee.
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Bizarre - it's a shame some pigs want DC out as they're a perfect match in reality :)
 
LS16Blade said:
They're a precious lot over in S6 and all too ready to take offence.

They flatter themselves that they're so important that Wilder could only have been referring to them, when the likelihood is that he actually had half of the division in mind. This season we see examples like Forest, fresh out of an embargo but throwing money around like turds in an effort to emulate the Wolves model although, fortunately, with an inferior and negative manager and Blackburn returning from League 1, where their financial problems dumped them in the first place, and now doing daft things like spending £7m on a mediocre striker.

That said the Pigs are plainly in a group with the likes of QPR and Birmingham who are teetering on the brink, but despite that, are still not properly getting their houses in order.

If, as is widely understood, the Pigs have already exhausted their '£37m loses over 3 seasons' in the space of just the last 2 seasons, then they now need to have a season this year where they return a profit. Presumably, they have given the EFL a plan of how they intend to achieve this in order to have their embargo lifted and yet, all that has then happened is that they have then thrown a couple of new (and presumably improved) contracts at a couple of key players, sold nobody (although the reality may well be that nobody wants to buy the sort of overpaid depreciating assets that they have assembled in their squad), and now added a couple more wages to the bill. All in a climate of declining gates and falling revenue.

Given that they have been making losses of c.£20m in the last couple of seasons on the basis of bigger gates and a wage bill that they still have, there will have to be some pretty spectacular sales (i.e. In January) before the next day of reckoning to the EFL arrives but what assets do they truly have?
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There's also a bit of guilty conscience in play here as the pigs know they are in the wrong.

I don't know whether it's all of them but they don't seem able to criticise their own club, no matter how ridiculously it conducts itself. They are like the idiot kid in the playground whose dad was harder than Chuck Norris and richer than Richard Branson, absolute fuckwits. On the other hand all of my Blade mates and myself were quite openly mocking the whole screw up around the ownership situation here and stupid we must be to have gotten into this position. It really is like North Korea over there.
 



Deadly_D'Jaffo said:
I don't usually get into a row with my Piggy mates, but one of them got a rise out of me last week regarding the general position of Sheffield football.

PIG Opinion:

- United fans giddy over Washington, lol
- Kieran Lee would walk into Uniteds middle
- Barry Bannan > John Fleck
- Chansiri was right to spunk loads of £££ to get promotion
- Failing to do so IS NOT an underachievement
- United could go insolvent if Ownership isnt resolved this season

(and saving best, most educated opinion until last)..?
- "Least we know who our owner is"


The funny thing is said pal is one of the more level headed football fans I know but he will not acknowledge any embarassment by being outmanouvred by a club they label "pub team" that runs on a fraction of their budget, not to mention the gulf in style of football we play.

They truly are a deluded bunch.
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He's entitled to his opinions, because that's all they are. Respond with some facts:

  • Bigger crowds
  • Higher in the league
  • Never less points than the pigs since we've both been in the Championship
  • Quality all over the pitch
  • Great manager
 
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