What cost Chris Wilder? Fans Forum Weds 17th 7pm

[metalblade]

Shirecliffe is now league one standards, Chansiri might be interested it is still better than a tent so he might be dumb enough to pay £5m for it.

 

[BlairBlade]

Having managed to watch all of the forum I was very impressed with the “level headed ness” that came across.
There were allusions to things that happened but no real accusations and none of the bile that has sometimes been present on here.
A lot of sense about failings on both sides. It is as though Unitedites are generally intelligent with pretty sensible views.
In view of the last week that was very impressive and welcome.
Thank you.

 

[metalblade]

Norton Aerodrome. My neck of the woods. I grew up nearby in Hemsworth, off Constable Road.

Have to say also, it is ideally placed with decent road routes to the south and west of Sheffield where the majority of players will live. It's also at the 'right end of Sheffield' and well away from the stench and disease not far away at the shit-tip that is Hillsborough.

Spent many a happy day on that derelict site (Norton, not Hillsborough). Last time I was on it though was about ten of us careering about on a nicked Honda monkey bike (nowt to do wi' me, judge).

I even recall it being an active RAF base with a fighter jet parked at the main gate.

pommpey

There were two planes acting as gate guardians one a Spitfire Mk 24 with a Griffon engine now at the RAF museum in Hendon the jet was a De Havilland Vampire which went to the scrapyard after Norton closed.

 

[pommpey]

In terms of value for money, I think it would be far and away the best investment the club has made in the last two seasons, accepting of course, that that’s a pretty low bar.

Aw mate. Where ya been? Brewster is our best investment! And McB! And

There were two planes acting as gate guardians one a Spitfire Mk 24 with a Griffon engine now at the RAF museum in Hendon the jet was a De Havilland Vampire which went to the scrapyard after Norton closed.

I have very early memories of that base being active (it was, essentially, a non functioning airfield as RAF Coal Aston had the better runway and Norton was a radio/balloon station)

The Armed Forces back then were so bloated with functionless entities which were kept alive by protectionist senior staffers. Norton was one.

There were rumours of tunnels going under Norton Avenue into that field (now with houses on it) behind the All Saints Church site on Raeburn Road.

Always remember one of the hangars going up in smoke in the seventies too.

pommpey

 

[ZoneManWilf]

Good to see the kids did not play this shit the other night.
They had attacking intent for a start.

'this shit' meaning the tactic that took us from the bottom of League One to top 6 in the Premier League in 3 and a half years you mean?

At first team level I'd agree that the execution of our play has gone badly wrong this season but let's not throw the scintillating football of some of the best years of supporting us in the bin shall we?

We're allowed to move on without the need to shit on every aspect of what's gone before. Perspective - severely lacking in a lot of places and on both 'sides' at the moment.

 

[pommpey]

There were two planes acting as gate guardians one a Spitfire Mk 24 with a Griffon engine now at the RAF museum in Hendon the jet was a De Havilland Vampire which went to the scrapyard after Norton closed.

Some great detail here

Norton Aerodrome

and here

Norton Aerodrome

pommpey

 

[tyke1889]

Norton Aerodrome. My neck of the woods. I grew up nearby in Hemsworth, off Constable Road.

Have to say also, it is ideally placed with decent road routes to the south and west of Sheffield where the majority of players will live. It's also at the 'right end of Sheffield' and well away from the stench and disease not far away at the shit-tip that is Hillsborough.

Spent many a happy day on that derelict site (Norton, not Hillsborough). Last time I was on it though was about ten of us careering about on a nicked Honda monkey bike (nowt to do wi' me, judge).

I even recall it being an active RAF base with a fighter jet parked at the main gate.

pommpey

I might have asked this on her before, but can anyone else remember a plane/jet being in someone's garden down the lane somewhere there?

 

[tyke1889]

Is this available as a podcast? Got to have it playing behind other things on my phone whilst driving.

 

[Eza Blade]

Dunno what people were expecting.

It's not exactly 'My take ... ' (although I have been asked to do a 'Fans React' for the game at Bellend Road)

pommpey

With the maritime links I know what I was expecting you to look like but was let down fucking terribly.

 

[YorkBlade]

Is this available as a podcast? Got to have it playing behind other things on my phone whilst driving.

Sorry it is not available as a podcast. I wish it was but they cost money so sadly not.
I often listen to YouTube videos whilst doing other things at home but I understand it would be ideal for a long drive.

 

[Varkanoid]

Some great detail here

Norton Aerodrome

and here

Norton Aerodrome

pommpey

Thats where I practiced driving when I learnt to drive. My Dad would take me up there it was something like £5 for 45 minutes (1988 I think felt like a lot of money back then) you can still see all the practice roads and roundabouts on the satellite images on google maps.

The state of decay gradually got worse and parts of it got used by gangs of lads on off road trials bikes. It was then taken over as a driver training centre in the 1970's -80's where you could pay to practice driving your car or bike around those huts on their fairly narrow road ways and much wide runways. Ideal if you were learning to drive and needed some off road practice first, although being run legally you did need to show all your documents (licence, insurance, tax etc.) when you paid to use the facility.

 

[metalblade]

Is this available as a podcast? Got to have it playing behind other things on my phone whilst driving.

Download it from youtube and convert it to Mp3. Google 4k video downloader that will sort it for you

 

[tyke1889]

Download it from youtube and convert it to Mp3. Google 4k video downloader that will sort it for you

Ooh thanks, I'll look into that

 

[Pedro Verde]

It's a difficult one for Phipps and Wit (sounds like a t.v show that), they both want to come across as Blades while defending their mate and taking shots at their opposites. (I'd say Wit is guilty of this more than Jim).

Wit seems to be something of an unofficial mouthpiece/lapdog for CW while Jim worked for HRH (not sure if he still does). I know more about Jim Phipps than I do "Wit", who is he, is he noting more than a mate of CW who drip feeds info out as and when required or is there something more to this person?

If I had to take a stance on either I'd say I'm leaning more towards Jim and HRH, Jim at least posts with reasoning and substance behind him. Wit just pipes up, say's a sentence then fucks off until required to defend his mate again. Wit commented on a comment I made on Twitter, saying something along the lines of CW brought in over 300m to the club in response to me saying has CW not been backed sufficiently? I responded but never got anything back from him, at least Jim has an actual conversation with people, explains his reasoning etc..

Im surprised you dont know who Wit is
Wit is indeed a good mate of Wilders from many years ago and had links to the BBC
I dont do twitter so dont know what hes been saying but he will obviously stick up for his mate and probably does have a little inside knowledge as to what has gone off as does Jim Phipps who although no longer works for the Prince probably still talks to him on Blades / other matters. I thought Jim did a lot of good whilst he was here especially liasing with the fans and nothing seemed too much trouble for him if he could help you out

 

[pommpey]

I might have asked this on her before, but can anyone else remember a plane/jet being in someone's garden down the lane somewhere there?

Yes mate.

Inside those links I have posted, someone has stuck a picture up of the actual field where the jet came down

I wasn't born then. I just remember Norton Aerodrome being open. Then it was shut and abandoned to us hooligans. The only other notable was one of the girls from our school (Gleadless Valley) was victim to a serious sexual assault on there in the seventies. Of course, back then, loads was done to protect her dignity and identity (i.e. nowt, not even by our school) and apparently our ever efficient police force (chasing the Ripper at that time, so, y'know, 'them prossies asked for it') were fantastically efficient protective, understanding, believing and embracing about her horrendous ordeal (i.e. they fucking weren't)

Not sure even the named, known attacker was brought up in front of the beak either.

Often wonder what her long term effects were following that. Poor lass.

pommpey

 

[Whiston Blade]

Im surprised you dont know who Wit is
Wit is indeed a good mate of Wilders from many years ago and had links to the BBC
I dont do twitter so dont know what hes been saying but he will obviously stick up for his mate and probably does have a little inside knowledge as to what has gone off as does Jim Phipps who although no longer works for the Prince probably still talks to him on Blades / other matters. I thought Jim did a lot of good whilst he was here especially liasing with the fans and nothing seemed too much trouble for him if he could help you out

I didn’t realise he was so well known tbh.

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

With the maritime links I know what I was expecting you to look like but was let down fucking terribly.
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My mental image of Pommpey has always been that of a Dr.Strangelove lookalike with a hint of Ernst Stavro Blofeld on the side .

Most disappointed to discover he looks and talks like everyone ‘s favourite uncle .

 

[The Bear]

I might have asked this on her before, but can anyone else remember a plane/jet being in someone's garden down the lane somewhere there?

Unless a model plane, must have been a bloody big garden.

 

[Eskimo]

Enjoyed that.

 

[metalblade]

Yes mate.

Inside those links I have posted, someone has stuck a picture up of the actual field where the jet came down

I wasn't born then. I just remember Norton Aerodrome being open. Then it was shut and abandoned to us hooligans. The only other notable was one of the girls from our school (Gleadless Valley) was victim to a serious sexual assault on there in the seventies. Of course, back then, loads was done to protect her dignity and identity (i.e. nowt, not even by our school) and apparently our ever efficient police force (chasing the Ripper at that time, so, y'know, 'them prossies asked for it') were fantastically efficient protective, understanding, believing and embracing about her horrendous ordeal (i.e. they fucking weren't)

Not sure even the named, known attacker was brought up in front of the beak either.

Often wonder what her long term effects were following that. Poor lass.

pommpey

There wouldn't have been much left of the aircraft that came down in the field mate

Gear-up landing Accident Gloster Meteor F Mk 8 WE916, Thursday 26 May 1955

WE916: First issued to 65 Sqn 8.6.51 coded B. Tyre burst on take-off,belly landed at RAF Linton-on-Ouse, 19.7.51 (Pilot Squadron Leader 0.A.Taylor OK). Damage assessed as Cat 4(R). To 32 ...

aviation-safety.net

 

[tyke1889]

Unless a model plane, must have been a bloody big garden.

I really don't know, I would've been very young and have always had a poor memory anyway.
I could be getting confused with the planes that were, as said earlier, were at the entrance, but I'm sure in my head it was a garden

 

[metalblade]

I really don't know, I would've been very young and have always had a poor memory anyway.
I could be getting confused with the planes that were, as said earlier, were at the entrance, but I'm sure in my head it was a garden

Stranger things have happened, there is a English Electric Lightening jet fighter sat in a field between Skeggy and Ingoldmells fuck knows how it got there or who owns it, no airfield for miles apart from Skeggy aero clubs grass field only thing near it is caravans and a miniature railway.

 

[Roygbiv]

Is this available as a podcast? Got to have it playing behind other things on my phone whilst driving.

Just watch it on your phone as you drive. Sure it will be fine.

 

[JohnDenver]

Thats where I practiced driving when I learnt to drive. My Dad would take me up there it was something like £5 for 45 minutes (1988 I think felt like a lot of money back then) you can still see all the practice roads and roundabouts on the satellite images on google maps.

I did my first attempts at driving a car there in the mid 90s. Many traffic cones were harmed by my reversing manoeuvres.

 

[Upton_Blade]

Im surprised you dont know who Wit is
Wit is indeed a good mate of Wilders from many years ago and had links to the BBC
I dont do twitter so dont know what hes been saying but he will obviously stick up for his mate and probably does have a little inside knowledge as to what has gone off as does Jim Phipps who although no longer works for the Prince probably still talks to him on Blades / other matters. I thought Jim did a lot of good whilst he was here especially liasing with the fans and nothing seemed too much trouble for him if he could help you out

Wit is pretty much CW's best mate and was manager of Bradway FC when CW took his 1st steps into management as his assistant.

As for knowing what has gone off I'd probably say he has the full story from CW's viewpoint but won't splash it all over Twitter.

Oh and you'll see his name plastered over a large proportion of the For Sale signs in front of houses around the city.

 

[The Crab]

Stranger things have happened, there is a English Electric Lightening jet fighter sat in a field between Skeggy and Ingoldmells fuck knows how it got there or who owns it, no airfield for miles apart from Skeggy aero clubs grass field only thing near it is caravans and a miniature railway.

Might not be that one, but I know Jeremy Clarkson used to have a Lightning in his garden but i think he was told to move it by the council

 

[pommpey]

As for knowing what has gone off I'd probably say he has the full story from CW's viewpoint but won't splash it all over Twitter.

Good. We don't need to know. I would hate that anything contentious emerges which makes either side look like cunts to the supportership.

Wilder has gone and has fond memories and a good reputation amongst the fans. He has earned that and we are grateful.

HRH is 'the way ahead' and we should support his vision. Right now, we are upside down in a bucket of fresh, liquefied shit. We can blame any number of people for this, but probably good to stop that now.

The way ahead is 'that way' (points)

Let's resign ourselves to relegation, get used to Championship football and make next season count

pommpey

 

[Silent Blade]

Good. We don't need to know. I would hate that anything contentious emerges which makes either side look like cunts to the supportership.

Wilder has gone and has fond memories and a good reputation amongst the fans. He has earned that and we are grateful.

HRH is 'the way ahead' and we should support his vision. Right now, we are upside down in a bucket of fresh, liquefied shit. We can blame any number of people for this, but probably good to stop that now.

The way ahead is 'that way' (points)

Let's resign ourselves to relegation, get used to Championship football and make next season count

pommpey

Well said!

 

[Upton_Blade]

Good. We don't need to know. I would hate that anything contentious emerges which makes either side look like cunts to the supportership.

Wilder has gone and has fond memories and a good reputation amongst the fans. He has earned that and we are grateful.

HRH is 'the way ahead' and we should support his vision. Right now, we are upside down in a bucket of fresh, liquefied shit. We can blame any number of people for this, but probably good to stop that now.

The way ahead is 'that way' (points)

Let's resign ourselves to relegation, get used to Championship football and make next season count

pommpey

Spot on Pomps.

I didn't want to go but he has so we have to look forward now. Absolutely no point carrying on the character assassinations of either CW or the board as it's just, well, counter productive isn't it.

We may not agree with everything PA does but he's the owner in situ and I'm quite sure he does have the clubs best interests in him. Those fans calling him all names under the sun on social media this week need to be careful what they wish for. What if he decides he can't be arsed with all the hassle and sells to the 1st person to offer him a decent sum. We could well end up like Portsmouth, Wigan, Sunderland, Bolton etc.

 

[The Bear]

There wouldn't have been much left of the aircraft that came down in the field mate

Gear-up landing Accident Gloster Meteor F Mk 8 WE916, Thursday 26 May 1955

WE916: First issued to 65 Sqn 8.6.51 coded B. Tyre burst on take-off,belly landed at RAF Linton-on-Ouse, 19.7.51 (Pilot Squadron Leader 0.A.Taylor OK). Damage assessed as Cat 4(R). To 32 ...

aviation-safety.net

That is so sad. Poor sod only 19 too.