Roy's View From... West Ham, Aston Villa and Southampton Fans Views On Danny Ings

[Varkanoid]

Thanks Roy, a step down to the Championship might be good for him and could be our surprise hit for this season.

 

[Gimli]

Gimli’s View from West Ham mate

 

[bonobo]

I guess the concern with all this, is it sounds like

The worry is that Cannon and Ings are quite similar and neither will get the service they need or contribute in a way the same system demands. Play one upfront and that striker needs to be able to hold the ball up with a defender behind him, compete in the air and be mobile all the time. Stand still and it's a defender's field day.

Yeah, it feels a bit like Cannon again, in a striker who needs to play in a two. Although I remember in his later years Sharp managed to play the loam role well, with all his experience compensating.

 

[John Street West Terrace]

Let’s see .. his injury record isn’t the best ..hope he’s more of a Didsy than an Ashley Ward freebie

 

[BiggerBladeThanThou]

When can we call him Ingsehhh?

 

[robbiez666]

I guess the concern with all this, is it sounds like

Yeah, it feels a bit like Cannon again, in a striker who needs to play in a two. Although I remember in his later years Sharp managed to play the loam role well, with all his experience compensating.

I know Ings can play a similar role to Campbell as well, but hasn't exactly been successful when playing upfront for West Ham.

 

[DifferentClass]

WEERZ VIEW FROM LIVERPOOL

 

[LBA_Blade]

What's Euromillions for Friday?

5 main numbers are 4,9,15,26,33 with 2 lucky stars 2, 6

Going to have to play now just in case

 

[Jon Bon II]

“Ings a striker more suited to a bygone age when every team wanted a ‘fox in the box’ type forward, but there’s a reason those type of players went out of vogue like twenty years ago, their overall contribution can be detrimental to the team, for if they’re not scoring then they’re not contributing much else, so can almost be like playing with ten men”

Thomas Cannon Esq. "Here, hold my beer..."

 

[SwissBlade]

The worry is that Cannon and Ings are quite similar and neither will get the service they need or contribute in a way the same system demands. Play one upfront and that striker needs to be able to hold the ball up with a defender behind him, compete in the air and be mobile all the time. Stand still and it's a defender's field day.

This was my exact thought. West Ham fan set the alarm bells....

“It’s fairly simple really, Ings performs best in a 2 up top where he can play off someone
The problem for him is that football has changed dramatically and that role doesn’t really exist for most clubs”

We certainly don't play a front two, we barely play a front one as Campbell just struggles up top on his own. Cannon is being pushed out onto the wing as is One...

Selles might as well play a front two with the players he has, Campbell and Ings with One and Cannon to replace them... can't be worst than what we've played so far.

Just give Barry a 100m track to run along on Shoreham street and throw a couple of balls at him every 20 mins or so, he'll be happy.

 

[robbiez666]

This was my exact thought. West Ham fan set the alarm bells....



We certainly don't play a front two, we barely play a front one as Campbell just struggles up top on his own. Cannon is being pushed out onto the wing as is One...

Selles might as well play a front two with the players he has, Campbell and Ings with One and Cannon to replace them... can't be worst than what we've played so far.

Just give Barry a 100m track to run along on Shoreham street and throw a couple of balls at him every 20 mins or so, he'll be happy.

I think there's a big hole with Moore going. Cannon and Ings really need a bigger lad next to them to win balls in the air, scrap, do flick-ons and hold balls up. You could use One but he's very raw and hardly reliable. I worry we're continuing to bring in players unsuitable to the way we play!

 

[SwissBlade]

I think there's a big hole with Moore going. Cannon and Ings really need a bigger lad next to them to win balls in the air, scrap, do flick-ons and hold balls up. You could use One but he's very raw and hardly reliable. I worry we're continuing to bring in players unsuitable to the way we play!

Its funny isn't it. People moaned about Moore, they moaned about McBurnie, but they offer much more than goals. That said, the Selles way doesn't work for a striker.

Its not so much that the players are unsuitable but the system is unworkable, currently.

 

[54yrblade]

We need a striker, we need experience in the side. We currently appear to have zero leadership on field.

I'm happy. Let's see how it goes.

 

[Tazzy]

Hope this is the kick start he needs and if he can finish the season with 10/15 goals what a bonus, Cheers Roy as ever best bit on the forum

 

[robbiez666]

Its funny isn't it. People moaned about Moore, they moaned about McBurnie, but they offer much more than goals. That said, the Selles way doesn't work for a striker.

Its not so much that the players are unsuitable but the system is unworkable, currently.

amusingly, if you were to play 2 up top in a Selles style, McBurnie would likely be a player that fits the bill quite well!

I've said elsewhere, our squad make-up doesn't really lend itself to any style. We could revert to 3 at the back, which would suit the defenders and midfielders but then we also have wingers who would be surplus to requirements. In our current system, I think you really need actual fullbacks and not wingbacks playing as fullwbacks, the 3 in midfield have to be able to play box to box and give the fullbacks protection, the 2 wide forwards have to be pressing a lot and be able to go both ways and then the striker needs to be able to be an outlet. Whether that's big and strong to compete in the air or making constant runs to find space.

This squad is a result of really bad planning (over 3 seasons) and shows why clubs need to have an identity which passes from manager to manager. Again, I have no idea why we don't have a DoF.

 

[Booker4]

I don't think I can strike up enough courage to read the review?! Is it as bad as I fear?!

I'm actually quite optimistic though on Ings signing. It's got Billy, Dean Saunders, Didzy and Wayne Allison vibes this one! That would be some combined player attributes!

 

[SwissBlade]

I don't think I can strike up enough courage to read the review?! Is it as bad as I fear?!

I'm actually quite optimistic though on Ings signing. It's got Billy, Dean Saunders, Didzy and Wayne Allison vibes this one! That would be some combined player attributes!

Me too, sadly its combined with the Blades injury record of Ebrell, Brewster, McBurnie, RND, Sander Berge, Kabba and Bogle...

 

[John Street West Terrace]

I think there's a big hole with Moore going. Cannon and Ings really need a bigger lad next to them to win balls in the air, scrap, do flick-ons and hold balls up. You could use One but he's very raw and hardly reliable. I worry we're continuing to bring in players unsuitable to the way we play!

My sentiments to

 

[Silent Blade]

“Friend of mine told me she met Ings on a night out in 2019ish and she went back to his hotel room and he made her watch YouTube compilations of him scoring for Liverpool.”

Not what the lady expected!

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

I can’t believe anyone would moan about this. He’s not been injured just left out, he’s not played in the Championship for a long time as he’s been too good for it. He bring bags of experience in an inexperienced team.

He’s played for England. Last Saturday showed sometimes you need an older head on the pitch to settle the players down & I’m not sure Robinson is that because he wants to fight with everyone

 

[I should coco]

This seems more of a wilder signing, he doesn't seem to fit in the, Ai, close down, high press system that was advertised with the new selles era, obviously I hope he does fantastically well, but I'm not convinced at this moment. A lot are saying that he needs a good run in the team and he plays his best in a front 2, I can't see either of those things happening tbh.

Nice one, chucking a dig at Wikder in, even though it has absolutely nothing to do with him.

I'm assuming that when the clueless charlatan on the bench, finally gets his cards, that will somehow be Wikder's fault too.

Wilder out!

 

[Jan Age]

Touch of the Mcgoldricks about this

 

[Youngand70]

amusingly, if you were to play 2 up top in a Selles style, McBurnie would likely be a player that fits the bill quite well!

I've said elsewhere, our squad make-up doesn't really lend itself to any style. We could revert to 3 at the back, which would suit the defenders and midfielders but then we also have wingers who would be surplus to requirements. In our current system, I think you really need actual fullbacks and not wingbacks playing as fullwbacks, the 3 in midfield have to be able to play box to box and give the fullbacks protection, the 2 wide forwards have to be pressing a lot and be able to go both ways and then the striker needs to be able to be an outlet. Whether that's big and strong to compete in the air or making constant runs to find space.

This squad is a result of really bad planning (over 3 seasons) and shows why clubs need to have an identity which passes from manager to manager. Again, I have no idea why we don't have a DoF.

I've commented several times until I'm blue in the face -
Bettis = NO Director of Football

I could add to that also -

NO established Premier League club also.

 

[Bobby b]

Nice one, chucking a dig at Wikder in, even though it has absolutely nothing to do with him.

I'm assuming that when the clueless charlatan on the bench, finally gets his cards, that will somehow be Wikder's fault too.

Wilder out!

I think you need to read my post again, I wasn't having a dig at wilder, I was just saying that signing older players isnt something the new regime said they were going for, they said they'd be going for a more Ai centred approach, buying younger players that had a higher resale value. Unless you'd forgotten about the countless older players wilder signed

 

[I should coco]

Unless you'd forgotten about the countless older players wilder signed

I hadn't.

To varrying degrees, Jags, Jake Wright, Clayton Donaldson, Richard Steerman and Didzy, performed very usefully for us.

 

[Stanthemanfan]

I hope he does well but never rated him, hope he proves me wrong!

 

[Bladesince59]

This is mental