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Most of who we've shown interest publicly have gone elsewhere. Just wondering how many of these would have joined us before season started.

I hope JS and Board still have decent target's in negotion and work for the good cause full weekend if necessary. We don't have to play this season in 'Hard' or 'Heroic' -mode, even if it fits our image.
 
Most of who we've shown interest publicly have gone elsewhere. Just wondering how many of these would have joined us before season started.

I hope JS and Board still have decent target's in negotion and work for the good cause full weekend if necessary. We don't have to play this season in 'Hard' or 'Heroic' -mode, even if it fits our image.
We haven't shown interest in anyone publicly, except Vieira who had already agreed personal terms.

You're thinking of transfer rumours.
 
We haven't shown interest in anyone publicly, except Vieira who had already agreed personal terms.

You're thinking of transfer rumours.
My bad, I was naive and thought we had more going on than we did.
Still hoping people in our end getting those needed players thorugh the door in next few days. It might be hard, but shouldnät be impossible.

If the club fails I don't know how JS will react as he seems kinda frustrated or even betrayed already to the situation.
 
Spend I said
So go shit or bust?
The owner doesn’t have the money so we throw £20M for transfers on top of a £40-50M losses/season and if we don’t go up then so be it?
You’d be willing to accept the risk knowing that could mean should it fail then at best mass sales including the kids, back to league one and at worse potentially going pop?
 
Been better off putting his money in an ISA then. Most football clubs lose money.
But the problem here is your expectation of him. He was never here to make significant losses and told us so. You need to find us a billionaire who doesn’t mind losing a decent chunk of it.
 
But the problem here is your expectation of him. He was never here to make significant losses and told us so. You need to find us a billionaire who doesn’t mind losing a decent chunk of it.
I have no expectations of him and it is not my job to find prospective owners of our football club. If he bought a football club with the idea of making money more fool him.
 
I have no expectations of him and it is not my job to find prospective owners of our football club. If he bought a football club with the idea of making money more fool him.
You said he shouldn’t have bought it if he didn’t want to lose money. That’s an expectation of him. An unfair one given he’d clearly said he was in it as an investment.
Your problem with him is an unrealistic expectation that he’ll bankroll us which was never going to happen.
From all the available evidence we currently have, he’s backed the club as much as he could have without significantly dipping into his own personal wealth. Unfortunately the money at this point looks to have been wasted, but things can change in football.
 
You said he shouldn’t have bought it if he didn’t want to lose money. That’s an expectation of him. An unfair one given he’d clearly said he was in it as an inve

You said he shouldn’t have bought it if he didn’t want to lose money. That’s an expectation of him. An unfair one given he’d clearly said he was in it as an investment.
Your problem with him is an unrealistic expectation that he’ll bankroll us which was never going to happen.
From all the available evidence we currently have, he’s backed the club as much as he could have without significantly dipping into his own personal wealth. Unfortunately the money at this point looks to have been wasted, but things can change in football.
Utter rubbish. Losing money as a football club owner is to be expected. Nearly all clubs run at a loss. If you don't want to bankroll a football club, don't buy one.
 

Utter rubbish. Losing money as a football club owner is to be expected. Nearly all clubs run at a loss. If you don't want to bankroll a football club, don't buy one.
Yeah we’re back here. The issue is your expectation. I don’t think there’s much to add.
He bought a football club saying upfront he wasn’t here to bankroll us. That’s not rubbish, it’s a demonstrable fact.
 
With Lowe going out on loan and hopefully Burke as well Rammers going (plus a fee) Lunny gone Bryan released? Ampadu back to Chelsea Tyler going how much are we saving on wages ?

I suppose if we count, Moore, Jags, Rodwell, Ampadu, Bryan, Lumpashite, Rammers, Smith, and Lowe going off the payroll (since 30 June) the we need to factor in that Norringtom-Davies, Freeman and Slater are now being paid by us again in full.

If Burke goes too, then we must be well up on that score. Depends how much a financial hole we are in tbh, and at the moment it's not sounding good.
 
Yeah we’re back here. The issue is your expectation. I don’t think there’s much to add.
He bought a football club saying upfront he wasn’t here to bankroll us. That’s not rubbish, it’s a demonstrable fact.
Bob as far as I am aware he has invested 20-25m into a product which is probably worth north of 100m. That seems like a pretty good return to me.
 
Be interesting how many times a team has got relegated with our last season's total and managed a decent season the year after with the same team. Must be rare. Surely we needed a rebuild.
 
So go shit or bust?
The owner doesn’t have the money so we throw £20M for transfers on top of a £40-50M losses/season and if we don’t go up then so be it?
You’d be willing to accept the risk knowing that could mean should it fail then at best mass sales including the kids, back to league one and at worse potentially going pop?
So go shit or bust?
The owner doesn’t have the money so we throw £20M for transfers on top of a £40-50M losses/season and if we don’t go up then so be it?
You’d be willing to accept the risk knowing that could mean should it fail then at best mass sales including the kids, back to league one and at worse potentially going pop?
That’s not what I’m saying. And to be honest I’ve noticed you often putting words in others month on this forum, sensationalising their words and or or statements. So re-read before commenting on mine…or just don’t. Just hold off your keyboard, warrior.

When I say spend, it’s abundantly clear to anyone with a footballing brain, that to compete in this league we need the minimum of two experienced, box to box midfielders. One who can break up play and other who can create.

This will not send the club into the black hole of financial ruins that you are suggesting (that I said!) but give the club a fighting chance on a top six finish.
 
That’s not what I’m saying. And to be honest I’ve noticed you often putting words in others month on this forum, sensationalising their words and or or statements. So re-read before commenting on mine…or just don’t. Just hold off your keyboard, warrior.

When I say spend, it’s abundantly clear to anyone with a footballing brain, that to compete in this league we need the minimum of two experienced, box to box midfielders. One who can break up play and other who can create.

This will not send the club into the black hole of financial ruins that you are suggesting (that I said!) but give the club a fighting chance on a top six finish.
:rolleyes: OK.
Just so we’re clear what “If we ain’t got doe then penniless Prince needs to do one” actually means, how much are you suggesting should be up forward for fees and wages?
It may help me not putting words in your mouth.
 
:rolleyes: OK.
Just so we’re clear what “If we ain’t got doe then penniless Prince needs to do one” actually means, how much are you suggesting should be up forward for fees and wages?
It may help me not putting words in your mouth.
At it again….just because you don’t agree doesn’t mean we are wrong, I know that really difficult for you to contemplate 🤔

If our chairman can not afford to invest in two new midfield players now after selling a player £10m over value, then we don’t have the right chairman.

as said, just do t comment because you more often than not get the wrong end of the stock, the shitty end!
 
At it again….just because you don’t agree doesn’t mean we are wrong, I know that really difficult for you to contemplate 🤔

If our chairman can not afford to invest in two new midfield players now after selling a player £10m over value, then we don’t have the right chairman.

as said, just do t comment because you more often than not get the wrong end of the stock, the shitty end!
You get very aggressive.
How have I done it again when all I did is quote your original comment?
I’m trying to understand the type of funding you think the Prince should be putting in and you’re getting all tough and touchy. Is it maybe a couple of £5m transfer fees and £30-40k/week or less then that? Would a couple of quality loans suffice probably costing between £5 and 10M?
What are you actually asking for so we know wether he needs to “do one”?
 
I tell you what will send us into financial ruin, not investing. It’s a small part of the reason we ended up very close to a mess in league one. Very difficult to compete, in a division we’re every club is willing to take risks and work at a loss. Sometimes if your too honest you end up being a de facto cuck to those around you.

By no means I am I asking the prince to Chuck loads of money at the club if he hasn’t got it (The Wendy’s did that), but being too cautious will see us land in the same place. It’s about balance. Until the EFL really start to punish clubs with winding up orders, the sustainable clubs will be pushed around, the really sad thing is the clubs that take risks know severe sanctions will never come into play because you’d end up with one league that contained about 10 teams in it.
 
I think deep down we all know we won’t sign anyone, it would of all been done by now.
I don’t think anyone apart from the real idiots and slashers believe we won’t sign anyone. It’s more about the level of those we do sign and how many we bring in.
 

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