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Ah, that old chestnut. Timm Klose's played the game - in fact, he played the game - and admitted he made contact with him. It was clear as day.

Played amateur league football Danny 04? Who for and over how many years?
 
If he gives yellows out for diving, can we have him vs Villa please? That odious little shite Grealish is well overdue a red for multiple dives, based on seeing us at Villa Park and seeing Villa on sky a few times. God I despise him. Every single (normally overused) cliche that people use about young footballers can be applied to him 10 times over. The twat.
 
Willian saw the prone outstretched leg. He started to go down before he arrived there, dropped his back leg to an unnatural position when running and fell over the prone leg. If he had been playing genuinely he woyld have carried on his run and easily stepped over the leg which was probably about 9 inches high.
 
Contact doesn't mean he didn't dive though.

In ice hockey you can get called a 2 minute for a trip but the opponent also gets a 2 minute penalty for 'embelishment'. I'd be happy with a similar punishment in football personally.

Cameron Jerome v Bristol City the other night would be another prime example. Give the pen and then book him for going down like an idiot.

At the speed he moves at, a shove on Morata will push him off balance. Why else would he go down?

Played amateur league football Danny 04? Who for and over how many years?

Are we really going down the ‘you haven’t played Sunday League so you aren’t qualified to have an opinion on what is a foul’? On a football forum? I didn’t remember being asked my footballing CV when I signed up either? :rolleyes:
 
Klose had two hands on both Morata's shoulders and pulled him, the defender then let go, then Morata fell over.
Willian's was as blatant a pen as you could ever see, that he went down like a twat doesn't change that.

Ah, someone else who’s never played the game! :D
 
Willian saw the prone outstretched leg. He started to go down before he arrived there, dropped his back leg to an unnatural position when running and fell over the prone leg. If he had been playing genuinely he woyld have carried on his run and easily stepped over the leg which was probably about 9 inches high.
As an attacker, it's not your responsibility to avoid a leg. The defender dived in, missed the ball.
 
As an attacker, it's not your responsibility to avoid a leg. The defender dived in, missed the ball.


Fair point but for me the key to that situation is when the outstretched leg arrives. In this case the leg did not coincide with Willian's back leg, note 'back leg', it was there well before the front leg even.. If he had tackled Willian's leg that would have been altogether different. He didn't.
 
At the speed he moves at, a shove on Morata will push him off balance. Why else would he go down?



Are we really going down the ‘you haven’t played Sunday League so you aren’t qualified to have an opinion on what is a foul’? On a football forum? I didn’t remember being asked my footballing CV when I signed up either? :rolleyes:


Morata dived well after the contact and the dive bore no resemblance to the contact. It really was outrageous and got just rewards.

He went down because he was well wide of goal fairly close to the bye-line. Did you actually see these incidents Danny?
 
At the speed he moves at, a shove on Morata will push him off balance. Why else would he go down?



Are we really going down the ‘you haven’t played Sunday League so you aren’t qualified to have an opinion on what is a foul’? On a football forum? I didn’t remember being asked my footballing CV when I signed up either? :rolleyes:

Come on, show us ya medals!
 
Morata dived well after the contact and the dive bore no resemblance to the contact. It really was outrageous and got just rewards.
But to be fair to him, the ref hadn't (and probably wouldn't have) blown for a pen for the contact.
But agree that it doesn't justify the dive after, needs stamping out.
 

At the speed he moves at, a shove on Morata will push him off balance. Why else would he go down?



Are we really going down the ‘you haven’t played Sunday League so you aren’t qualified to have an opinion on what is a foul’? On a football forum? I didn’t remember being asked my footballing CV when I signed up either? :rolleyes:

I am sorry for this but it is one of my pet hates. I played football from the age of 12 to the age of 46, but the last two years didn't really count due to illness. In that 32 years I played schoolboy football, Saturday and Sunday League football including good standard Hatchard, Northern Counties, Rothmans, and lower standard South Yorkshire Amateur etc. league. That's 34 years of actually playing the game, albeit not every week or every year. I managed two teams in those years. I feel I am better qualified to comment on the game than somebody whose only experience is playing 5 a side or the occasional game with his mates and watching the premiership and agreeing with the pundits. You can have any opinion you want, but if you have the same opinion as most of the referees which involves " he fell down so it must be a foul", then you, and they, are guilty of emasculating what was once a great game. Yes, you don't have to be qualified to comment, but I tell you what, I'd have more respect for any comment you made if I knew you had played the game week after week as I did.
 
Morata dived well after the contact and the dive bore no resemblance to the contact. It really was outrageous and got just rewards.

He went down because he was well wide of goal fairly close to the bye-line. Did you actually see these incidents Danny?

Yep. Perhaps we just disagree eh?
 
I am sorry for this but it is one of my pet hates. I played football from the age of 12 to the age of 46, but the last two years didn't really count due to illness. In that 32 years I played schoolboy football, Saturday and Sunday League football including good standard Hatchard, Northern Counties, Rothmans, and lower standard South Yorkshire Amateur etc. league. That's 34 years of actually playing the game, albeit not every week or every year. I managed two teams in those years. I feel I am better qualified to comment on the game than somebody whose only experience is playing 5 a side or the occasional game with his mates and watching the premiership and agreeing with the pundits. You can have any opinion you want, but if you have the same opinion as most of the referees which involves " he fell down so it must be a foul", then you, and they, are guilty of emasculating what was once a great game. Yes, you don't have to be qualified to comment, but I tell you what, I'd have more respect for any comment you made if I knew you had played the game week after week as `I did.

‘He fell down so it must be a foul’? Where did you read me post that, superstar?
 
‘He fell down so it must be a foul’? Where did you read me post that, superstar?

Didn't and no way did I say I was a Superstar. Far from it. Very average, but at least I was there.
 
Anyone care to show off their coaching badges or throw their refereeing qualifications into the hat? ;)
 
I am sorry for this but it is one of my pet hates. I played football from the age of 12 to the age of 46, but the last two years didn't really count due to illness. In that 32 years I played schoolboy football, Saturday and Sunday League football including good standard Hatchard, Northern Counties, Rothmans, and lower standard South Yorkshire Amateur etc. league. That's 34 years of actually playing the game, albeit not every week or every year. I managed two teams in those years. I feel I am better qualified to comment on the game than somebody whose only experience is playing 5 a side or the occasional game with his mates and watching the premiership and agreeing with the pundits. You can have any opinion you want, but if you have the same opinion as most of the referees which involves " he fell down so it must be a foul", then you, and they, are guilty of emasculating what was once a great game. Yes, you don't have to be qualified to comment, but I tell you what, I'd have more respect for any comment you made if I knew you had played the game week after week as I did.


Well said and just to add to that, it may be hard to believe but when I played my football from 1965 -1980 not once did I dive nor did I see any dives ( until Franny Lee was on T.V.), not once did I have my shirt pulled, I was wrestled at corners about twice or maybe three times, but yes we stood in the opposition's space, not once did a player go down when a player approached his rear end and faintly touched him and in fact the man with his back to the play would have been blown up for obstruction if he physically guarded the ball without playing it. Time wasting was not prevalent, nor was being injured and requiring treatment every hand and turn.

The key here is that I watched United all bar 5 of those years and the examples were set on the professional field. It didn't happen there and so it was not copied by amateurs and kids.

Go and watch local football these days, they are all whingeing Rooneys and diving Sterlings and Willians.

Shame it's all been allowed to happen.
 
Didn't and no way did I say I was a Superstar. Far from it. Very average, but at least I was there.

I’m only gutted I wasn’t there to see it! :D

You disagree with people, I am shocked

I was always told it’s a game of opinions. I never knew there was a clause that said ‘*only valid if you played Sunday League’
 
Anyone care to show off their coaching badges or throw their refereeing qualifications into the hat? ;)


Refs are a confused race. They know what they should be doing but nobody backs them up if they do it. Look at Scott last week, grudging praise but not unqualified approval from the refs association, never mind the football league authorities who said nowt.
 
or throw their refereeing qualifications into the hat?

Played for a team where we had to provide a ref but hadn't got one. As a controlled game reading centre half (think McGrath), I played and reffed.

I kicked one of their players up in the air, awarded a free kick and booked myself.
Obviously I am well qualified to comment on the procession of wankers, chuffs and twats we get at the Lane.
 
I’m only gutted I wasn’t there to see it! :D



I was always told it’s a game of opinions. I never knew there was a clause that said ‘*only valid if you played Sunday League’

To be fair if you had played the game you would know that was not a natural penalty. He invited contact. Not saying it’s jot a penalty in this day and age but doesn’t mean it’s right
 

At the speed he moves at, a shove on Morata will push him off balance. Why else would he go down?

He's extremely strong and has good balance so could have easily stayed on his feet. He tried to con the ref and win a penalty because they were getting desperate, that's why he went down.
 

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