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derfblade.3 said:
May i open with the agent of Jerome Sinclair. Clearly the lad wanted to come, hence being sat at Midland Station waiting for the move to happen only to be gazumped at the last minute. Feel sorry for the guy.
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Your point is well made.

Here is another.

Could Sinclair have jumped in a cab, been at Shirecliffe in 10 minutes, and taken control of his own destiny ?

Why sit around at the station twiddling his thumbs ?

Or put another way, told his agent to do one, I'll take over from here ??

I could be wrong, but I have doubts Sinclair ever landed in Sheffield.

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The agent's a shithouse, but Sinclair should have taken control at such a late point.

Having said that, you have to imagine that these rich individuals that make their money out of the wheeling and dealing of young athletes must possess very impressive manipulation skills.
 
I don't think we need to do it for the rest of the season. This guy takes the title
 
No arguments from me. The agent was a money grabbing twat who thought that he could fleece the club and wilder!!. He picked on the wrong manager and club to try that trick!!. He
 
Hopefully with the Bleacher Report exposing the parasite cunt, some managers and players might refuse to deal with him and ruin his career. Probably not.
 
DronnieBlade said:
Your point is well made.

Here is another.

Could Sinclair have jumped in a cab, been at Shirecliffe in 10 minutes, and taken control of his own destiny ?

Why sit around at the station twiddling his thumbs ?

Or put another way, told his agent to do one, I'll take over from here ??

I could be wrong, but I have doubts Sinclair ever landed in Sheffield.

UTB
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Maybe Sinclair's contract with his agent doesn't allow him to do his own thing? Of course this is wholly wrong and is almost like 3rd party ownership. The agent is clearly a greedy cunt and I hope he is exposed and goes bust very soon.
 
Wonder if he actually supports a football club? Apart from the fact his website page section on "talent" repeatedly crashes, the whole smell of it is we are on the look out for raw talent we can profit from. The quotes from Sterling and Chamberlain are essentially, "I can get on with my game because Aidy looks after everything else". It seems in the case of his other clients they will now be lucky to get a game for a few months.

Interestingly for such a powerful and influential man, There doesn't seem to be a Wiki page for him. Seems to have left Impact Sports Management in 2015 just before it went into Administration. Karl Robinson was a minor shareholder.
 
DronnieBlade said:
Your point is well made.

Here is another.

Could Sinclair have jumped in a cab, been at Shirecliffe in 10 minutes, and taken control of his own destiny ?

Why sit around at the station twiddling his thumbs ?

Or put another way, told his agent to do one, I'll take over from here ??

I could be wrong, but I have doubts Sinclair ever landed in Sheffield.

UTB
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If Sinclair ,and the other guy had anything about them (and if they really wanted to come) they would sack this agent and go elsewhere. Who is it btw ,anyone know ?
 



If he believes he has been mis represented then I doubt the agent would have a case ,and with much bigger fish in his net I doubt he would care.
 
sitwell said:
If he believes he has been mis represented then I doubt the agent would have a case ,and with much bigger fish in his net I doubt he would care.
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Many players don't read the small print in their contract with their agent and wouldn't fancy their chances of claiming misrepresentation through courts
 
sitwell said:
If Sinclair ,and the other guy had anything about them (and if they really wanted to come) they would sack this agent and go elsewhere. Who is it btw ,anyone know ?
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Aidy Ward

http://www.colossalsportsmgt.com/

Oxlade-Chamberlain and Sterling will make him the big money and he'll be hoping he's picked good youngsters. Probably thinks doubling his money at the last moment is a good tactic. He gets another go in January. Doesn't matter to him if they play U23 football in the meantime.
 
DronnieBlade said:
Your point is well made.

Here is another.

Could Sinclair have jumped in a cab, been at Shirecliffe in 10 minutes, and taken control of his own destiny ?

Why sit around at the station twiddling his thumbs ?

Or put another way, told his agent to do one, I'll take over from here ??

I could be wrong, but I have doubts Sinclair ever landed in Sheffield.

UTB
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Just a thought, maybe the contract a player had with his agent is so watertight they aren't allowed to do things like that without consent or a serious financial penalty.

These are young lads who were even younger when they signed their contracts with the agents. You don't hear about more senior players breaking from their agents all that often so I don't see how a young lad would be able to do it.

Ultimately, it feels like a watered down third party ownership. If the agent doesn't want a player to leave he can't. Agents sort out players contracts so you can guarantee the contract they have with the players will be close to airtight.
 
meathblade said:
Just a thought, maybe the contract a player had with his agent is so watertight they aren't allowed to do things like that without consent or a serious financial penalty.

These are young lads who were even younger when they signed their contracts with the agents. You don't hear about more senior players breaking from their agents all that often so I don't see how a young lad would be able to do it.

Ultimately, it feels like a watered down third party ownership. If the agent doesn't want a player to leave he can't. Agents sort out players contracts so you can guarantee the contract they have with the players will be close to airtight.
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Except that he moved from his previous agent who got him the lucrative contract from Liverpool to Watford. Wonder what Ward said to him about the move collapsing?

He'll probably just sit tight for another loan in January.
 
meathblade said:
Just a thought, maybe the contract a player had with his agent is so watertight they aren't allowed to do things like that without consent or a serious financial penalty.

These are young lads who were even younger when they signed their contracts with the agents. You don't hear about more senior players breaking from their agents all that often so I don't see how a young lad would be able to do it.

Ultimately, it feels like a watered down third party ownership. If the agent doesn't want a player to leave he can't. Agents sort out players contracts so you can guarantee the contract they have with the players will be close to airtight.
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Che Adams was supposed to sign for Birmingham before the start of last season but he wanted to use a different agent for the transfer and this caused problems so the move was called off before Che finally had to accept that his agent sees through the transfer. Don't know if he now has a different agent
 
meathblade said:
Just a thought, maybe the contract a player had with his agent is so watertight they aren't allowed to do things like that without consent or a serious financial penalty.

These are young lads who were even younger when they signed their contracts with the agents. You don't hear about more senior players breaking from their agents all that often so I don't see how a young lad would be able to do it.

Ultimately, it feels like a watered down third party ownership. If the agent doesn't want a player to leave he can't. Agents sort out players contracts so you can guarantee the contract they have with the players will be close to airtight.
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You may be correct.

But would it stand up in a court, if the contract was legally challenged ?

Restriction of trade ?

Would the "airtight" nature of the contract be deemed to be akin to "shackling" ?

How would / are conflicts of interest covered ?

I know lots of ballers arent the brightest of sparks. But surely a player knows when an agent acting on his behalf is, for whatever the reasons given, holding him back. Preventing a move that would otherwise be in the players best interest. Financially and / or professionally.

Maybe it's just me. I find it difficult to grasp the role of agents, as in my own mind, i would be perfectly capable and confident negotiating my own terms. Maybe just have an agent deal with the off the pitch stuff, endorsements / image rights etc.

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DronnieBlade said:
Maybe it's just me. I find it difficult to grasp the role of agents, as in my own mind, i would be perfectly capable and confident negotiating my own terms. Maybe just have an agent deal with the off the pitch stuff, endorsements / image rights etc.

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Yes it's you, the agents can drive a much much harder bargain.

Imagine you are David Brooks, let's say his recent contract pays him £5K a week.
And United offered him an extension up to £8K a week, seems a big pay rise and David on his own would likely sign it.

However his agent might say that with recent transfer rises, then in a few years David could easily be worth £30 million.
The agent might say he has similar talents in his stable, he might say Quinna is paid £20K a week and Sinclair is paid £22K a week.
The agent will say that you only have to look on your own S24SU forum and many suggest he's the hottest talent since Tony Currie.
The agent will say he's knows the market and he knows for a fact Brooks could get close to £25K a week at Man City or Man Utd.

In summary Brooks on his own would probably settle for an increase from £5K to £8K a week.
The agent will say the club is taking advantage of the player, economics and market forces prove he's worth £20K a week.

The recent trend which is creating all these problems is "how do you value POTENTIAL'?
Quinna, Sinclair and Brooks all have massive talent but neither have achieved anything, in fact they've hardly started played a single game in league football, but either could end up being a big PL star. So how much are they worth?

PL clubs have money to burn so can afford to gamble by storing up talented yougsters, giving them a wage that sets them up for life, then they rarely play again. It's madness really.
 
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So as the most honest and principalled club In the world should we only deal with Jerry Maguire from now on ?
 
DronnieBlade said:
Your point is well made.

Here is another.

Could Sinclair have jumped in a cab, been at Shirecliffe in 10 minutes, and taken control of his own destiny ?

Why sit around at the station twiddling his thumbs ?

Or put another way, told his agent to do one, I'll take over from here ??

I could be wrong, but I have doubts Sinclair ever landed in Sheffield.

UTB
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Agreed but as a professional footballer he'll probably not have had any kind of thought of his own since he signed a professional contract at a young age.
 



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