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That's the first time my name has ever been put forward for the England Manager's job but I have to admit its an honour :D

I think my lack of top level experience would rule me out though :(

Perhaps someone should create a poll with me in it???? Sadly I feel I may get a low percentage vote :thumbdown:

I'm going on your performance in the Prediction League!
 

Anyone else here think that Capello is overrated? Look at the teams we have beaten since he took charge, all pretty mediocre sides that we should expect to beat if we're being honest, has he beaten a major team as England manager yet? No! But hopefully this may now change in the coming weeks!
 
Not if he didn't think that was unacceptable against Algeria!

I look at the big picture Guesty. I dont throw my arms in the air and jump on the England bashing band-wagon. The performance simply wasnt good enough.

We were ineffectual in the final third but all this talk of it being a shite performance is the biggest exaggeration ive ever heard.
 
Can I vote Fabio capello?

Don't think he's done anything wrong. He's not changed anything. Always named the team at the same time etc... We had the best qualifying campain of my lifetime and now because we struggled against an Algerian team who obviously made it difficult for us everyone wants change.

If we'd beaten USA 1.0 i don't think we'd have any of this because we'd be on 4 points now and although we played shit (inexplicably shit) vs Algeria nobody would give a toss because we would be in the driving seat. People are too quick to jump on people these days.

If we win 5.0 tomorrow should we get a new manager?

Totally agree with you matt. You're bang on the money there. The reaction from fans and the media so far has been typically over the top. If England fail to qualify today then yes questions need to be asked but to suggest Capello needs to go, or that players aren't trying is laughable in my eyes.

First gut reaction - lets sack the team and manager (idiotic).
 
Anyone else here think that Capello is overrated? Look at the teams we have beaten since he took charge, all pretty mediocre sides that we should expect to beat if we're being honest, has he beaten a major team as England manager yet? No! But hopefully this may now change in the coming weeks!

They can only beat what's in front of them norfolk. So far the only competitive match they have lost was to the Ukraine (away). A notoriously difficult place to go to; and we had already qualified for South Africa at that point.
 
Only one man for the job ! ....................... cheap as chips....... it wud be hard to replace him at BDTBL but his country needs him.
 
Capello's had about 3 years so that's about £15M he's earned plus expenses so I reckon he will go soon, he's got his pension fund, why does he need the hassle? On the footballing side anyone who picks that bunch of scumbags and deadbeats and then expects them to be anything other than crap on the pitch and hard work to manage clearly knows nothing about creating a winning team.
 
Anyone else here think that Capello is overrated?

yeah, he's never won anything....

Milan
Serie A (4): 1991–92, 1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96
Supercoppa Italiana (3): 1992, 1993, 1994
UEFA Champions League (1): 1993–94
European Super Cup (1): 1994

Roma
Serie A (1): 2000–01
Supercoppa Italiana (1): 2001

Real Madrid
La Liga (2): 1996–97, 2006–07
 
yeah, he's never won anything....

Milan
Serie A (4): 1991–92, 1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96
Supercoppa Italiana (3): 1992, 1993, 1994
UEFA Champions League (1): 1993–94
European Super Cup (1): 1994

Roma
Serie A (1): 2000–01
Supercoppa Italiana (1): 2001

Real Madrid
La Liga (2): 1996–97, 2006–07

Yeh he's crap isnt he?! :rolleyes:

He's being criticised by people who dont know a small percentage of what he knows about the game. Makes me laugh. Long live Don Fabio!
 
What makes me laugh is that people blame the manager. That team with any formation should have 6 points, but no its always the managers fault not the big babies who get 100k + a week. Win tonight and it will be master fabio, he's a god, what a manager.
 
yeah, he's never won anything....

Milan
Serie A (4): 1991–92, 1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96
Supercoppa Italiana (3): 1992, 1993, 1994
UEFA Champions League (1): 1993–94
European Super Cup (1): 1994

Roma
Serie A (1): 2000–01
Supercoppa Italiana (1): 2001

Real Madrid
La Liga (2): 1996–97, 2006–07

I meant for England Matt, big difference between club and country management!
 
What makes me laugh is that people blame the manager. That team with any formation should have 6 points, but no its always the managers fault not the big babies who get 100k + a week. Win tonight and it will be master fabio, he's a god, what a manager.

Part of it is his fault though, he said he would only pick players that were fit and in form, so he brings Wright-Phillips and Heskey, yet leaves Johnson and Bent at home!
 
I meant for England Matt, big difference between club and country management!

Its his first tournament norfolk. Give him a chance!

He has inherited a team that were performing poorly when he took over. They are also a group of players who arent nearly as good individually, as they're made out to be.

He's taken an overrated group of players failing at international level and up to now has turned them into winners. It doesnt matter who they have had to play. They can only beat whoever they're up against. Capello's record as England manager is exceptional.
 

Part of it is his fault though, he said he would only pick players that were fit and in form, so he brings Wright-Phillips and Heskey, yet leaves Johnson and Bent at home!

Wright-Phillips is proven for England and Heskey suits a system Capello likes to use. He will pick the players that he feels can carry out his instructions. This is the problem with the media and England fans:- they think we should pick all the in form players who are bigged up by the papers and throw a team together out of them. As opposed to deciding on a way of playing and then picking the most appropriate players. Guess which one Alf Ramsay went for?..........

Johnson was clearly judged to be too much of a wild-card (though I personally would have taken him). Bent has had chances for the national team and has been poor; he's not an international striker. Scoring goals in the Premier League is different.
 
Wright-Phillips is proven for England and Heskey suits a system Capello likes to use. He will pick the players that he feels can carry out his instructions. This is the problem with the media and England fans:- they think we should pick all the in form players who are bigged up by the papers and throw a team together out of them. As opposed to deciding on a way of playing and then picking the most appropriate players. Guess which one Alf Ramsay went for?..........

Johnson was clearly judged to be too much of a wild-card (though I personally would have taken him). Bent has had chances for the national team and has been poor; he's not an international striker. Scoring goals in the Premier League is different.

A system which works so well that the players don't want to play it, thus drawing against 3rd rate sides like Algeria? Sorry, but IMHO, Rooney should be playing the Heskey role, with Defoe playing off him.

I wouldn't say Bent has been given much of a chance in all fairness, but to see Heskey going ahead of him I'm afraid is unforgiveable, surely strikers are there to score you goals? I'd rather put my money on Bent scoring than Heskey that is for sure!

Wright-Phillips proven for England...how? Yes he has played a few games, but what has he ever done that's so special? The fact Joe Cole sits on the bench, who is arguably one of our most talented players, while SWP, the most right footed winger ever seen, plays on the left ahead of him, is a total mockery of Cole.

Johnson would be a handy addition, when he came on against Mexico against Wembley, even though for a few minutes, we looked far more capable of stretching the opposition and creating chances, we have missed a player who can do this so far.

This all goes back to my original argument Lou about Capello's comment about being in form. SWP is behind Johnson in the pecking order at Man City, and Heskey hasn't scored since Feb, and rarely makes it into the Villa side, you can't deny the fact neither player is in form, regardless of what they have done in the past!

Admittedly, this is Capello's first tournament, so he is still learning in that sense, but given the situation every manager in the world faces nowadays, would you expect him to be with us for the next tournament? First tournament or not, there is no excuse for only picking up 2 points with the team we have. However, it is out of order to blame this all on Capello, everybody involved in the set up is responsible for what has happened, and the players need to grow a pair and just get on with it, I would quite happily what they earn to be placed under all that "pressure"
 
A system which works so well that the players don't want to play it, thus drawing against 3rd rate sides like Algeria? Sorry, but IMHO, Rooney should be playing the Heskey role, with Defoe playing off him.

*Algeria are third rate are they? Well they're clearly one of the best sides in Africa, so that's a little unfair. Rooney isnt an out and out centre forward, he drifts too much. Defoe IS a centre forward so I dont see your logic there - your opinion, so fine.

I wouldn't say Bent has been given much of a chance in all fairness, but to see Heskey going ahead of him I'm afraid is unforgiveable, surely strikers are there to score you goals? I'd rather put my money on Bent scoring than Heskey that is for sure!

*Bent has had enough chances and doesnt complement our main forward, which is Rooney. Heskey has never played badly for England and removes a lot of the physical burden for his strike partners. You need to look beyond goals to see his worth. This is why top class managers are paid a lot of money (too look beyond the obvious).

Wright-Phillips proven for England...how? Yes he has played a few games, but what has he ever done that's so special? The fact Joe Cole sits on the bench, who is arguably one of our most talented players, while SWP, the most right footed winger ever seen, plays on the left ahead of him, is a total mockery of Cole.

*Wright-Phillips has always had decent games for England and has proved to be a solid performer. Joe Cole would play in my England team, I agree on that but Capello clearly feels he cant accomodate him at present

Johnson would be a handy addition, when he came on against Mexico against Wembley, even though for a few minutes, we looked far more capable of stretching the opposition and creating chances, we have missed a player who can do this so far.

*I agree Johnson looks good enough to pull on a starting shirt but as you mentioned yourself here - he's played a few minutes. Its a brave man that takes a player on the strength of one brief cameo. I would have taken the gamble but Capello is clearly more measured in that sort of approach.

This all goes back to my original argument Lou about Capello's comment about being in form. SWP is behind Johnson in the pecking order at Man City, and Heskey hasn't scored since Feb, and rarely makes it into the Villa side, you can't deny the fact neither player is in form, regardless of what they have done in the past!

*You're going back to this thing again about players being selected on the basis of their club form and pecking orders. This is where we fall down in England and why we havent won anything for donkey's years. A manager has to decide how he wants to play and then choose from the most appropriate tools at your disposal. If you have a variety of options you choose how you want to go about things and then pick the most relevant players. You dont just thrown together a team of form players, it doesnt work. This is why the likes of Brazil, Argentina, Germany and Italy do well and we dont.

Admittedly, this is Capello's first tournament, so he is still learning in that sense, but given the situation every manager in the world faces nowadays, would you expect him to be with us for the next tournament? First tournament or not, there is no excuse for only picking up 2 points with the team we have. However, it is out of order to blame this all on Capello, everybody involved in the set up is responsible for what has happened, and the players need to grow a pair and just get on with it, I would quite happily what they earn to be placed under all that "pressure"

Unless he decides to pack up and go yes I would expect him to be here for the next tournament. Personally I think he'll walk because he doesnt need the hassle. No one is making excuses for us only picking 2 points up, not least the manager. He's getting on with it and has admitted he wants more from them. Its the players that need to pull their finger out a bit more, though personally I feel the effort is there (I dont care what anyone else thinks about that). I still want to understand this mentality of "with the players we have"........can you explain this to me because by my reckoning we have 3 (count them) 3 world class players. Our group of players is marginally overrated and that is why the expectation is too high.
 
I still want to understand this mentality of "with the players we have"........can you explain this to me because by my reckoning we have 3 (count them) 3 world class players. Our group of players is marginally overrated and that is why the expectation is too high.

To be honest I think our ONLY world class player is Rooney. BUT if you are saying we have three such players then that is three more than any of USA, Algeria and Slovenia and as such should give us the edge we need to beat them.
If United had three "Premiership Standard" players next season then I would be expecting a serious promotion challenge as most teams in the championship haven't got any.
 
To be honest I think our ONLY world class player is Rooney. BUT if you are saying we have three such players then that is three more than any of USA, Algeria and Slovenia and as such should give us the edge we need to beat them.
If United had three "Premiership Standard" players next season then I would be expecting a serious promotion challenge as most teams in the championship haven't got any.

Not sure I agree with that. Feeling that we should beat most sides simply because we have 3 world class players and they dont, is a bold assumption to make IMO.

One team beating another is not a science and the likelihood isnt quantified by how many 'world class' players you have. Its more about who has a solid, cohesive team. If we have 3 world class players and then the rest are average (I'm saying if) then there is no guarantee that those 3 players will A) all perform well on the day or; B) Have much influence on the game if their team mates arent up to the same standard.

Basically what I'm saying is, football is not an exact science at any level so cannot be quantified like that IMO.
 
I look at the big picture Guesty. I dont throw my arms in the air and jump on the England bashing band-wagon. The performance simply wasnt good enough.

We were ineffectual in the final third but all this talk of it being a shite performance is the biggest exaggeration ive ever heard.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for taking a measured view, and indeed people have been far too knee-jerk about this. However, taken in isolation, that performance was abysmal.
 
Funny that this thread has gone all quiet since the Slovenia game :rolleyes:

Goes along with the newspapers 'two day turnaround' from slagging the team and manager off to calling for us to get behind "our brave lions" and "our brilliant manager" - not exact quotes from anywhere but you get the picture.

The media and British public do make me chuckle at times..........
 

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