vacant manager roles and Robbo syndrome

[Champagneblade]

Why is it when roles come up in the PL such garbage gets put forward by the papers as potential candidates.

It still seems the Bryan Robson effect is in full flow.

Take Hull for example.

Wacky owners perhaps but it's still a top job and a chance to manage at the pinnacle of English Football.

So who gets linked?

Zola - sacked at West Ham with a28% win ratio and despite good backing failed to get Watford up and had them mid table. Failed in Italy. Sacked after one year in the Far East. He should be linked with Barnet, not top flight jobs.

McLaren - despite good backing, just got Neecastle relegated from the very same division. How the hell does that make him qualified?

Phil Brown - just had an ok season in the THIRD tier. How does that make him a Premier League manager in waiting?

Sherwood - fresh from setting Villa well on course for relegation. Again how does this make him even a candidate? He did an average job at Spurs with some great players.

Warnock - relegated with us. Was unlucky at QPR as he spent a fraction of the money Hughes did and had them 4th bottom while Hughes spent a fortune and sent them down. Had Palace on way down and was replaced. Great Championship Manager but clearly out of depth in PL.

Giggs - never managed anything apart from screwing up his britger's life! Start off at Halifax. Who cares what you did as a player.

Coleman - had his knocks but can't deny he's a man in form. I can at least understand why linked.

Seems being a young English manager is a reason to be ignored.

Where's Lee Johnson? Despite a rocky start, turned things around terrifically at Barnsley and continued this at Bristol.

Gary Rowett - set everything up at Burton. Made progress at Birmingham to get them top half.

Chris Hughton - doing a fine job at Brighton.

I just find it annoying that the same star name failures get trotted out as options in the media when there are good managers who have served their apprenticeship the right way.

So glad we went for Wilder!

 

[Tyler Durden]

I'd put Eddie Howe at Bournemouth in that second catagory as well. He's done a brilliant job there against heavy odds.

 

[Weasel]

Think Eddie Howe is a very underrated manager. Probably goes under the radar as he is managing a little unfashionable club. But hes took them up and he had them comfortably staying up in the prem last season with no major star names on the side. They are a team who work hard for each other and yes im aware that they didnt stay within ffp rules when they went up and overspent in wages by millions. He was backed but he did deliver. Hes a young english manager, seems to have his head acrewed on reight, and will be better for the Burnley experience he had. Could be the English national manager in a decade or so but clearly too early in his career right now.

As for the other regular serial failures who het mentioned...dear god. McLaren...just what do chairmen see in this failing bufoon? Zola / Robson = great former players but clearly shite managers...Sherwood...full of himself but he aint any good as a manager...Giggs..ha ha ha...would you respect this man if you had to play for him..? A man who clearly jas fuk all morals and shafts his own brothers wife...there are some things beyond the pale and hes clearly a dreadful man.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

There's a book that alludes to this very issue I read earlier in the year.

 

[Deleted member 1486]

Warnock out of depth in the Premier league? We went down on goal difference. We were very, very unlucky. We finished above Pardew's Charton, he seems to be doing alright recently.

Pardew and Warnock spent that season at clubs that were always going to be towards the bottom end of the table by the season's end, and Warnock has ever since.

He arguably had his chance in 92 with Chelsea (in those days it was nothing like the club it is today of course, but still quite a major step up from Notts County). He must look back on that decision and wonder what might have been!

 

[Champagneblade]

Same thing at Notts county he went down after one season. Cold facts are every season he's been a top flight manager he's either got relegated or been sacked. Don't get me wrong, I liked him and I acknowledge he's been up against it with some of the teams but it's not a very flattering record.

We did go down by one goal, but let's also not forget he managed to get 1 point out if the last 30 away from home suggesting tactically he wasn't too flexible and he misused January, fattening the squad, buying for the future when everyone knew since summer the midfield needed strengthening.

You just can't get away with such shortfalls at that level.

 

[BushBlade]

Same thing at Notts county he went down after one season. Cold facts are every season he's been a top flight manager he's either got relegated or been sacked. Don't get me wrong, I liked him and I acknowledge he's been up against it with some of the teams but it's not a very flattering record.

We did go down by one goal, but let's also not forget he managed to get 1 point out if the last 30 away from home suggesting tactically he wasn't too flexible and he misused January, fattening the squad, buying for the future when everyone knew since summer the midfield needed strengthening.

You just can't get away with such shortfalls at that level.

It was Palace that made my mind up. He should have done better. I remember an interview after a game they'd managed to win and he said 'that's what I call a real Neil Warnock performance' and I just thought 'idiot, don't make it all about you, not with PL players' and I don't think they won another until after he was sacked.
The margins of error are too small in the PL for a Warnock type.

 

[baggie192]

Why is it when roles come up in the PL such garbage gets put forward by the papers as potential candidates.

It still seems the Bryan Robson effect is in full flow.

Take Hull for example.

Wacky owners perhaps but it's still a top job and a chance to manage at the pinnacle of English Football.

So who gets linked?

Zola - sacked at West Ham with a28% win ratio and despite good backing failed to get Watford up and had them mid table. Failed in Italy. Sacked after one year in the Far East. He should be linked with Barnet, not top flight jobs.

McLaren - despite good backing, just got Neecastle relegated from the very same division. How the hell does that make him qualified?

Phil Brown - just had an ok season in the THIRD tier. How does that make him a Premier League manager in waiting?

Sherwood - fresh from setting Villa well on course for relegation. Again how does this make him even a candidate? He did an average job at Spurs with some great players.

Warnock - relegated with us. Was unlucky at QPR as he spent a fraction of the money Hughes did and had them 4th bottom while Hughes spent a fortune and sent them down. Had Palace on way down and was replaced. Great Championship Manager but clearly out of depth in PL.

Giggs - never managed anything apart from screwing up his britger's life! Start off at Halifax. Who cares what you did as a player.

Coleman - had his knocks but can't deny he's a man in form. I can at least understand why linked.

Seems being a young English manager is a reason to be ignored.

Where's Lee Johnson? Despite a rocky start, turned things around terrifically at Barnsley and continued this at Bristol.

Gary Rowett - set everything up at Burton. Made progress at Birmingham to get them top half.

Chris Hughton - doing a fine job at Brighton.

I just find it annoying that the same star name failures get trotted out as options in the media when there are good managers who have served their apprenticeship the right way.

So glad we went for Wilder!

You realise the Allams are basically the Oystons. Bruce left because despite this being the richest Premier ever they would only allow free transfers

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Warnock out of depth in the Premier league? We went down on goal difference. We were very, very unlucky. We finished above Pardew's Charton, he seems to be doing alright recently.

Pardew and Warnock spent that season at clubs that were always going to be towards the bottom end of the table by the season's end, and Warnock has ever since.

He arguably had his chance in 92 with Chelsea (in those days it was nothing like the club it is today of course, but still quite a major step up from Notts County). He must look back on that decision and wonder what might have been!

If you're a heart surgeon and you kill someone by missing the incision by a millimetre you've failed

 

[judge]

If you're a heart surgeon and you kill someone by missing the incision by a millimetre you've failed

If you're a surgeon with a spoon instead of a scalpel it's understandable