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S5Blade said:
Also, We sent CCV back, he wasnt recalled and Leonard will only play CB if required, wasnt signed for that position (taken from replies to other tweets)
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Fanny magnet said:
Wilder hasn't said leonard wasn't brought in to play defence
He's said no one else is being brought in to replace ccv as len can cover there
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Admittedly I didn't have chance to listen myself, but it looks like that's what he said. Anyway, it was just some gentle ribbing. We won't know for sure until he's played a few games.
 



It seems rather daft not bringing on cover for Basham. If he breaks his leg then are we going to start Leonard there every game. If he gets injured or suspended or struggles in an unfamiliar position in a higher league, then what? We have to change formation?

Seems incredibly unwise to me. Although, I accept it's difficult to attract loan signings as 'mostly cover'.
 
Grappler said:
Shame about Nathan Thomas, but if he can get first team regular game time elsewhere, then it is a good thing.

GLTTL
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I felt he was always gonna be a player who spent a season with us before we perhaps saw something of him.
 
robbiez666 said:
It seems rather daft not bringing on cover for Basham. If he breaks his leg then are we going to start Leonard there every game. If he gets injured or suspended or struggles in an unfamiliar position in a higher league, then what? We have to change formation?

Seems incredibly unwise to me. Although, I accept it's difficult to attract loan signings as 'mostly cover'.
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All jesting aside , it's cover for JOC that concerns me . There simply isn't any .
 
People please listen to the Audio.

Leonard is here for the RCB role.
 
Reporter “ CCV sent back are you going for cover”

CW says “ Leonard can play there, he’s played centre half , right sided centre half, full back midfield in a 3 and a 2 and is a very good footballer..... and that we need 2 players for every position battling it out for 1 position”.

Also alluded to players only leaving and signing new contracts.

Shame people don’t listen to full interviews when available there a very good listen even if it’s 17 minutes.
 
Well, Christopher sounds like the cat that got all the cream there! (And who can blame him? What a transfer window, as things stand.)

Imagine listening to a full 17 minutes of a Nigel Adkins interview?
 
I don’t know what Thomas has done wrong to not get a chance at the lane?

Anyone who can run at defenders and score worldies are worth their weight in gold to unlock these 11 men behind the ball teams.

A strange decision and I’d have liked the interviewer to have pressed him more on this, to find out why he won’t play him or even put him on the bench.
 
I think some people are hearing what they want to hear.

On CCV going back and cover:
“With the permanent signing of Ryan Leonard, who can play in that position, and Chris Basham really making that position his own, I struggle to see Cam getting in on a regular basis.”

On changing the system:
“I’m not thinking of changing the plan, I always think we need to be flexible. I think Ryan gives us that flexibility, similar to what Bash has done in the past as well, and he’ll want to nail a position down, but if you look through his career, he’s played centre-half, he’s played right centre-half, he’s played holding midfielder, he’s played in a 2, he’s played in a 3, he’s a very good footballer that’s versatile. While I’m trying to create a 1 for 1 scenario – because I think that’s something that’s hit us a little bit in the first part of the season – when we’ve had an injury we’ve had to shift a couple of positions as well, and most notably being Chris Basham. We’ve been a little bit unfortunate at times, we’ve lost Kieron and George at the same time, and with Kieron coming back onto the grass now and very close to playing some football in a competitive environment, that’s great because he was an outstanding player for us last year, that’s what we’re trying to create....”

It sounded (and reads) as fairly clear that Basham is the main man at RCB hereon in. Yes, Leonard can play there, but Wilder likened that to Basham’s ability to play in other positions. Both will want to nail a position down. Leonard might play there, but from what Wilder says, and importantly the context that he says it in, he will only play there if the circumstance needs it – i.e. Basham is unavailable. Saying that Leonard provides competition to Basham is akin to Basham offering competition to Freeman/Baldock, or Lafferty offering competition to JOC/Fleck.

What we might see this as (and perhaps we could have done this last Friday) is where we’re dominating possession and need a more attacking option, Basham might be subbed for Leonard (or switched back following another sub if he’s already on the pitch) – similar to say Northampton at home last season when Done was brought on for the left wingback role given the constant attacking we were doing.
 
wizadry said:
I don’t know what Thomas has done wrong to not get a chance at the lane?

Anyone who can run at defenders and score worldies are worth their weight in gold to unlock these 11 men behind the ball teams.

A strange decision and I’d have liked the interviewer to have pressed him more on this, to find out why he won’t play him or even put him on the bench.
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I doubt he'd have answered.
 
wizadry said:
Fair point but he does usually answer any question from what I’ve heard of him, he doesn’t usually shy away.
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I don't think he's often been asked why he hasn't played some kid. The answer is unlikely to be positive and I doubt he wants to publically criticise a young player.

This Thomas thing is getting like the Diego saga, I find it tedious. He's made a couple of cameos against understrength/lower league teams, scored a decent goal and now he's Messi. If Wilder doesn't want to play him then he's probably got a good reason for it, because he knows the lad and sees him train every day. The biggest single quality that determines whether or not a young player makes it is character and that's the one thing that supporters are unable to judge.
 
I've just listened to it, and everyone should just so they get an idea of how emphatic he is about Brooks: he's not going.
 



BushBlade said:
I don't think he's often been asked why he hasn't played some kid. The answer is unlikely to be positive and I doubt he wants to publically criticise a young player.

This Thomas thing is getting like the Diego saga, I find it tedious. He's made a couple of cameos against understrength/lower league teams, scored a decent goal and now he's Messi. If Wilder doesn't want to play him then he's probably got a good reason for it, because he knows the lad and sees him train every day. The biggest single quality that determines whether or not a young player makes it is character and that's the one thing that supporters are unable to judge.
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It’s nothing to do with him being like “Messi”, if I thought he was that good I wouldn’t be asking why he can’t get a place on the bench, I’d be saying he should be starting every week, which I’m obviously not. I don’t like it when people over exaggerate a point that hasn’t even been made.

He’s something different and done something no one else could do against an “under strength” side.

Thomas isn’t a kid either.

Whatever Wilders reason is for not playing him, it would be nice to find out, and it wouldn’t be an hard question to ask.
 
wizadry said:
It’s nothing to do with him being like “Messi”, if I thought he was that good I wouldn’t be asking why he can’t get a place on the bench, I’d be saying he should be starting every week, which I’m obviously not. I don’t like it when people over exaggerate a point that hasn’t even been made.

He’s something different and done something no one else could do against an “under strength” side.

Thomas isn’t a kid either.

Whatever Wilders reason is for not playing him, it would be nice to find out, and it wouldn’t be an hard question to ask.
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The Messi comment is my reaction to a number of posts, not yours particularly. I stand by the rest of my post.
 
BushBlade said:
The Messi comment is my reaction to a number of posts, not yours particularly. I stand by the rest of my post.
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Fair dos! With you quoting my post for it I thought you meant me.

I thought I’d make my point clearer to make you understand not everyone wants him to start, to just have him as an option on the bench would be a valuable asset to the squad, that’s why I’m questioning it, we don’t have anyone else like him.
 
wizadry said:
Fair dos! With you quoting my post for it I thought you meant me.

I thought I’d make my point clearer to make you understand not everyone wants him to start, to just have him as an option on the bench would be a valuable asset to the squad, that’s why I’m questioning it, we don’t have anyone else like him.
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First team experience elsewhere will help him mature quicker
 
Thomas has impressed in one game only.

My guess is he’s not impressed in training and he hasn’t impressed on other cup outings.
 
For me Brooks will go in summer not january. Probally 15/20m. Which will be big shame as he pribally stagnate on premier league bench
 
Like others, I'm also puzzled by CW's decision not to at least give Thomas the chance to show whether he could have made a difference in a number of games over the last 2 months or so, including the pigs and Bolton.

In some matches he has thrown on extra midfield players and / or strikers in order to try to do that, often to little or no effect, mainly because our options in wide areas have been restricted to players who are expected, at different times, to be either full backs or wingers and are not particularly good at being either.
 
Get Brooks back ffs , no coincidence that we have only won 1 match in 10 , with out him , love to watch the kid , him and Leon play well together, Brooks Brooks will tear you apart again !!!!
Get him back and let's kick ass again !!
 



coolhandluke said:
All jesting aside , it's cover for JOC that concerns me . There simply isn't any .
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I'm sure Wilder will tell you that Lafferty is cover.......This is my point with Bash. I can't imagine that any manager in their right mind wouldn't want a replacement for CCV. It probably says more about budget than choice. Logically, loaning a player who could cover LCB & RCB would be a perfect solution.
 
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