Updated “We Can Still Finish 6th”– Post Millwall – Chart & Graph

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A point away at Millwall, and it could so easily have been 3. Brooks & Seriki are becoming an increasingly lethal combination. We probably win that with big Pat up top. Cal missed a couple of great chances and the ref missed a blatant penalty on Sam. Sydie and Bindon were too slow to react to the runner for the Millwall goal.

Those who read my last post will know that, from looking at recent history, I identified 71 points as a playoff possible target and 77 points as a playoff highly probable target. I then laid out 2 series of results for our last 18 games that would lead us to those 71 point and 77 point totals at the end of the season.

Table 1 shows my paths to the 2 totals, and adds the Millwall result to that table. The red figures will display our progress relative to the 2 targets. You can see from Table 1 that both targets included 1 point at Millwall – so we are still on target with 17 games to go.

Table 1:
Matchday 29 Playoff Target Table.webp


I know that a lot of people like to manage their expectations, and that making the playoffs is still very unlikely, - but it is still a realistic possibility (where there’s life there’s hope) and I like to have a pre-game target to judge each game against.


Graph 1 illustrates our progress visually against the 2 targets. (I have made our actual red line slightly transparent so that the targets are visible through it).

Graph 1:
Matchday 29 Paths to the Prem.webp



Finally, I know people like to see my up-to-date League Table with coloured results – so that is below.

Our first point away at a Top 6 Club!

League Table:
Matchday 29 League Table.webp



Japh and Pat back on Tuesday, and fingers crossed that Sam won’t be out too long – at least it’s one of the few positions where we have genuine cover.

UTB & Slava Ukraini!
 



I think this season is a write off personally, but while there’s’ hope, the seasons not over.

Already looking forward to next season. Let’s see/give Wilder a full season.
 
I think this season is a write off personally, but while there’s’ hope, the seasons not over.

Already looking forward to next season. Let’s see/give Wilder a full season.
What should be happening now is that we prepare to get rid of some of the dross in the summer, then actually PLAN who we’re going to sign and how the squad will look next season.

We probably have a to sell a couple of decent players to keep the club afloat next season and we’ll likely be operating on a smaller wage budget so we need to plan for that.

If our season is done in February/March and we sleepwalk into the summer, do nothing until preseason is over then we’ll find ourselves in the bottom half for the first half of next season as well. It’s then purgatory for a few years until the owners sell up, we accept being Preston or we become a financial disaster.
 
A point away at Millwall, and it could so easily have been 3. Brooks & Seriki are becoming an increasingly lethal combination. We probably win that with big Pat up top. Cal missed a couple of great chances and the ref missed a blatant penalty on Sam. Sydie and Bindon were too slow to react to the runner for the Millwall goal.

Those who read my last post will know that, from looking at recent history, I identified 71 points as a playoff possible target and 77 points as a playoff highly probable target. I then laid out 2 series of results for our last 18 games that would lead us to those 71 point and 77 point totals at the end of the season.

Table 1 shows my paths to the 2 totals, and adds the Millwall result to that table. The red figures will display our progress relative to the 2 targets. You can see from Table 1 that both targets included 1 point at Millwall – so we are still on target with 17 games to go.

Table 1:
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I know that a lot of people like to manage their expectations, and that making the playoffs is still very unlikely, - but it is still a realistic possibility (where there’s life there’s hope) and I like to have a pre-game target to judge each game against.


Graph 1 illustrates our progress visually against the 2 targets. (I have made our actual red line slightly transparent so that the targets are visible through it).

Graph 1:
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Finally, I know people like to see my up-to-date League Table with coloured results – so that is below.

Our first point away at a Top 6 Club!

League Table:
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Japh and Pat back on Tuesday, and fingers crossed that Sam won’t be out too long – at least it’s one of the few positions where we have genuine cover.

UTB & Slava Ukraini!
Great stuff GraphMan.

We all know that it’s unlikely that we can make 6th, what with all the traffic between us, but we can see that your pathways are still possible and, by following them each week, know whether the probability is going down or up. The paths take each week’s opposition into account - so include easier and harder runs of fixtures.

I will continue to watch your graph every week, and hope to see the dotted lines falling below the thin red line!

That’s simple enough even for me!

UTB & FTP!
 
What should be happening now is that we prepare to get rid of some of the dross in the summer, then actually PLAN who we’re going to sign and how the squad will look next season.

We probably have a to sell a couple of decent players to keep the club afloat next season and we’ll likely be operating on a smaller wage budget so we need to plan for that.

If our season is done in February/March and we sleepwalk into the summer, do nothing until preseason is over then we’ll find ourselves in the bottom half for the first half of next season as well. It’s then purgatory for a few years until the owners sell up, we accept being Preston or we become a financial disaster.
I wonder if anyone has thought about planning for the summer while still trying to win every game we can. We could even have two plans. I think that's allowed.
 
If I'm reading those tables correctly , neither of them allows us to lose even one more match for the rest of the season !

Can I have a pint of what you're drinking ?
People who read the table as if it is a forecast are being far too simplistic.

The purpose of having a goal is to assess what might be possible and to plan the easiest route to achieving it.

There is no suggestion that every result is necessary - if we lose 2 games that are draw targets, then we need to win another draw target to balance it.

If you are running a campaign then, as things change the individual targets, and even the overall goal, will need to be modified.

I think it was Napoleon, or maybe Eisenhower, that said “The plan was useless, but the planning was invaluable”.

UTB & FTP!
 



Still a small hope. Vital we take the 3 points v Oxford which leaves is 8 points adrift of 6th place Wrexham, who we still have to play at home.

Presuming we do bear Oxford we then have Boro home - winnable if we play like we did v Ipswich - and Portsmouth away followed by the pigs.

If we go into the Boro game eight adrift we will know a win will either close the 8 point gap to 6th to 5 or 6 points - or leave two teams on 50 points as Millwall (5th) play Wrexham.

If Wrexham lose at Millwall and we beat Oxford then Boro we could even be five adrift of 6th at 5pm Saturday. If that game ends in a draw we are 6 points off 6th with 15 to play - one of which is against the current 6th place team.

Saying that it would be typical Blades to drop points at home to Oxford.
 
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People who read the table as if it is a forecast are being far too simplistic.

The purpose of having a goal is to assess what might be possible and to plan the easiest route to achieving it.

There is no suggestion that every result is necessary - if we lose 2 games that are draw targets, then we need to win another draw target to balance it.

If you are running a campaign then, as things change the individual targets, and even the overall goal, will need to be modified.

I think it was Napoleon, or maybe Eisenhower, that said “The plan was useless, but the planning was invaluable”.

UTB & FTP!
I think it was Chansiri
 
If I'm reading those tables correctly , neither of them allows us to lose even one more match for the rest of the season !

Can I have a pint of what you're drinking ?
We need to win our home games and draw the away ones to get 73 points.

We’ve started that already.

We may lose a few but if you win one away game that gives you a 2 point buffer, so a couple of away wins in that lot allows for a home defeat.

What we might see now is us on a ‘run’ where we play a number of beatable teams. I’d hope for instance for us to get 9 points if not more from the next 4 matches.
 
Could we put a run of results together until the end of the season? Of course we could, the problem is it only takes one of the ten teams between us and 6th place to put a similar run together and we are screwed. The odds are stacked against us.
 
We haven't even been in the top half of the table all season.

A team that hasn't been in the the top 12 by February has no chance of finishing in the top 6.
 
I wonder if anyone has thought about planning for the summer while still trying to win every game we can. We could even have two plans. I think that's allowed.
Agreed, it’s a given that we go out to win as many games as we can. We just have no excuse for not being prepared next season if we achieve mid table mediocrity this season. As I said further up, we need a few wins on the bounce to ignite enthusiasm for a play off push. If not I fear the season will dwindle into nothing and those running out of contract will go into cruise mode.
 
I’m just enjoying our two good performances out of every three games…That will keep me going for the rest of this season.
 
I’m just enjoying our two good performances out of every three games…That will keep me going for the rest of this season.
That’s the exact problem at the minute. We play like we did at Charlton (before the reds) then we put in a shitshow like we did at Southampton.

We’re going nowhere if we don’t find consistency.
 
Yep, I agree with both your points. We lack consistency and we’re going nowhere…Not this season anyway.
 
That’s the exact problem at the minute. We play like we did at Charlton (before the reds) then we put in a shitshow like we did at Southampton.

We’re going nowhere if we don’t find consistency.
One follows the other though. We made 7 changes at Southampton, almost all of which were enforced by the early red cards at Charlton. Tanganga and Soumaré obviously banned; Bindon concussed; McCallum injured by Knibbs; Seriki & Brooks redzoned with the effort they expended while we were down to 9 and Bamford rotated out.

If we'd have managed that game at Charlton properly, even down to 10, we'd have beaten Southampton comfortably.
 
One follows the other though. We made 7 changes at Southampton, almost all of which were enforced by the early red cards at Charlton. Tanganga and Soumaré obviously banned; Bindon concussed; McCallum injured by Knibbs; Seriki & Brooks redzoned with the effort they expended while we were down to 9 and Bamford rotated out.

If we'd have managed that game at Charlton properly, even down to 10, we'd have beaten Southampton comfortably.
It all makes sense but nothing you or anyone says will make sense if it involves Chong starting for SUFC.
 
We have a half chance now, nothing more, and even then it will require us to be ridiculously consistent from here on in.

But whilst there is still a slight possibility, we should remain positive and by "we" I mean from the boardroom down. This is why I find all this talk from certain posters about not "wasting any more money" to be very disappointing.

We don't expect our manager of players to give in, ever, so why should we accept the same from the owners when there is still a potential prize at stake?

It looks far off at the moment, but due to where we are in the table, logically most of the remaining games are against teams above us, so there are multiple opportunities to improve our position.

Interestingly in our last 10 fixtures we have Preston, Wrexham, Hull and Derby, all teams who I expect to still be in the top 2nd - 6th conversation by the run in. It's a big if, but if we can whittle our deficit down to say 6 points by the start of April, it's on as far as I am concerned.
 
End of the day you have to play each team twice home and away. Quirks of the fixtures can mean all your hard games come at once or all your easy ones.

It is worth noting that we have played all the top 6 teams away already. So:

Portsmouth (20th)
QPR (11th)
Norwich (19th)
Birmingham (13th)
Bristol City (9th)
Watford (10th)
Derby (7th)

Average position of the away teams is 12.7.

Average position of the home team is 12.3.

Not insurmountable and plenty of away games we would now expect to pick up points in.
 
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End of the day you have to play each team twice home and away. Quirks of the fixtures can mean all your hard games come at once or all your easy ones.

It is worth noting that we have played all the top 6 teams away already. So:

Portsmouth (20th)
QPR (11th)
Norwich (19th)
Birmingham (13th)
Bristol City (9th)
Watford (10th)
Derby (7th)

Average position of the away teams is 12.7.

Average position of the home team is 12.3.

Not insurmountable and plenty of away games we would now expect to pick up points in.

If you're looking at who we've got left home and away then it's better to look at the home and away tables.

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Nothing major in the next few home matches, the overall table is roughly accurate but we've got some arguably tougher away fixtures coming up than the main table would suggest. Portsmouth and QPR won't be easy but maybe we can take solace from the fact that Wednesday's solitary win this season came at Fratton Park.

Derby and Blackburn are the stand outs: Derby are top of the away table (27 points from 15 matches), near the bottom of the home table (18 from 15) while Blackburn are similar, 11th in the away table (18 from 14) but 23rd in the home (11 from 15).
 

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