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Captain said:
Thought your ratings were spot on , Baxter continues to divide opinion though.Yesterday everything was coming through him and that's why we were garbage especially in the first half.Creative midfielder he ain't , good tackler , don't make me laugh, incisive, give over, He managed to win one header over their sub who was 4ft and a fag end.Even in div 3 we see creative midfielders Jose doesn't fit into this category, Michael Doyle in disguise, at least he'd got some fight in him.
Thought Wallace had an excellent game at left back, be plenty of competition for places when the likes of Harris ,Done etc return.
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Pinchy said:
I'll continue to form my own opinions, not conditioned by someone writing a report.

I'll just emphasise yet again. Poor finishing by the opposition is not a "let-off". There are 8 yards between the posts, plenty of room; no need to hit post at all. In any event, outside of post; Howard not beaten at all; had it covered.

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It was a bloody good strike though, applauded by many Blades including myself.
 
Great report. Summed the game up very well. My only disagreement would be the mark for Basham. I thought he was up there for MOM and was a brilliant ball winner 2nd half. Don't understand how Baxter ends up in front of the back 4 half the time and Bash further forward. Vice Versa needed for me
 
I'm a big Baxter fan and unfortunately spend games having to listen to four blokes near me who can watch him do everything right for say 20 minutes and as soon as he loses possession they are irate. Every time he passed the ball sideways testerday they were incensed. Basham playing alongside him moved the ball forwards perhaps three times in the whole game and never a squeak from these blokes who do generally know their football by the way.

Yesterday was not one of Baxter's better games but he was no worse than four or five other players. Baxter and Baxter fans like me have to live with this obsession that some have about him and his type of player. The manager has to decide whether he is good enough ans where to play him. At present I think he is out of position but his type of player is hard to fit into certain formations. If J.Wallace gets fit I think it's a matter of time before he replaces Baxter or maybe Basham and in any case Reed will break through before long I hope.

IMO Baxter has no future in 4-4-2 unless he plays as one of the front two. In 4-5-1 Baxter and Basham would complement each other alongside Wallace or Reed but I think Adkins is a 4-4-2 man usually. I wonder if Adkins has played 3-5-2 much over the years.
 
Woodwardfan said:
I'm a big Baxter fan and unfortunately spend games having to listen to four blokes near me who can watch him do everything right for say 20 minutes and as soon as he loses possession they are irate. Every time he passed the ball sideways testerday they were incensed. Basham playing alongside him moved the ball forwards perhaps three times in the whole game and never a squeak from these blokes who do generally know their football by the way.

Yesterday was not one of Baxter's better games but he was no worse than four or five other players. Baxter and Baxter fans like me have to live with this obsession that some have about him and his type of player. The manager has to decide whether he is good enough ans where to play him. At present I think he is out of position but his type of player is hard to fit into certain formations. If J.Wallace gets fit I think it's a matter of time before he replaces Baxter or maybe Basham and in any case Reed will break through before long I hope.

IMO Baxter has no future in 4-4-2 unless he plays as one of the front two. In 4-5-1 Baxter and Basham would complement each other alongside Wallace or Reed but I think Adkins is a 4-4-2 man usually. I wonder if Adkins has played 3-5-2 much over the years.
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The difference between Basham and Baxter is Baxter is regarded as our play maker with this amazing talent ,and Basham does his tackling and chasing. Someone said it was lack of options and movement that caused Baxter to pass sideways ,hes got Adams and JCR out wide and 2 of the hardest working forwards in the league up front ,surely a magician like him should be able to find a forward pass every now and then ? We were playing a team who are down and out FFS. How many excuses do we make this guy until we realise he simply isn't good or willing enough ? It seems every week some make excuses for him and work out formations to accommodate him at the expense of better players. Then he has a steady game when the whole team play well and hes a genius for another month.Wallace cant get fit quick enough for me ,personally I would splash the Murphy money on a quality midfielder and move Basham to centre half which I think is his best position.
 
sitwell said:
The difference between Basham and Baxter is Baxter is regarded as our play maker with this amazing talent ,and Basham does his tackling and chasing. Someone said it was lack of options and movement that caused Baxter to pass sideways ,hes got Adams and JCR out wide and 2 of the hardest working forwards in the league up front ,surely a magician like him should be able to find a forward pass every now and then ? We were playing a team who are down and out FFS. How many excuses do we make this guy until we realise he simply isn't good or willing enough ? It seems every week some make excuses for him and work out formations to accommodate him at the expense of better players. Then he has a steady game when the whole team play well and hes a genius for another month.Wallace cant get fit quick enough for me ,personally I would splash the Murphy money on a quality midfielder and move Basham to centre half which I think is his best position.
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Have to agree. Edgar has massively improved the defence but I would not be adverse to playing Basham and him together at centre back - he is better than Collins and McEveley in that position. I still think we need a quality central midfielder in the middle of the park who has some legs and pace and adds bite. The lad Morsy at Chesterfield would be a good signing for me but there are others about. Basham and Baxter are too slow. When we play first half decent side we have played albeit bereft of some of players they had last season (Swindon next week) against quick, nimble players we will see how good this combo will be.

I know a lot advocate Basham for midfield (he has had some good games there) and I know defence struggled at times with him there but with a better centre back alongside him in Edgar I think those two would be fine. If they get Brayford back for right back and Freeman then could maybe switch to left back (not convinced by Harris and think Wallace is a stop gap there) that defence would be ok.

I really do believe despite number of midfielders we have, we still need to improve in this area. The likes of Wallace, Coutts etc have not shown they are consistent or fit enough for me and both of those like Baxter and Basham are very slow. Yesterday showed me that this midfield would not be good enough against the better teams.
 
Personally I would move Basham to centre-half, and put James Wallace in centre midfield in place of Basham.

I like what I have seen from James Wallace so far, and he is starting to look fit enough to be able to a starter now. So far this season this fitness of Wallace has been a huge bonus and if anything his return to action has been almost like signing a new player
 
Just seen the goals – perfect pass from the corner by McEveley, great to see we're clearly doing some work on set-pieces. Nice work from Sharp for McNulty's strike too – expect McNulty will get a run-out against Fulham, would like to see Wallace J given a start there too.
 
Cracking, opinionated report (as ever).

However, I do agree with those who thought Baxter was better than DB gave him credit for, & Basham worse.
Can't believe how much Baxter has improved the defensive side of his game (& can't rememer seeing him head the ball so many times); & thought his passing was generally very good, with the ball more often than not being recycled through him & with him making to look things happen. Even so, he clearly does tend to slow things down & needs to become sharper & livelier - something I reckon will happen as time goes on under Adkers.
Basham, though, apart from 3 or 4 grandstanding tackles just didn't get into the game & was something of a passenger. Not all his fault by a long stretch because tactically he seems to be being restrained by the 442 - the discipline required of him doesn't seem to allow him to make the lung-bursting runs that were such a part of his dynamic game last season.

Great to see the subs being used proactively & effectively.
 
sitwell said:
The difference between Basham and Baxter is Baxter is regarded as our play maker with this amazing talent ,and Basham does his tackling and chasing. Someone said it was lack of options and movement that caused Baxter to pass sideways ,hes got Adams and JCR out wide and 2 of the hardest working forwards in the league up front ,surely a magician like him should be able to find a forward pass every now and then ? We were playing a team who are down and out FFS. How many excuses do we make this guy until we realise he simply isn't good or willing enough ? It seems every week some make excuses for him and work out formations to accommodate him at the expense of better players. Then he has a steady game when the whole team play well and hes a genius for another month.Wallace cant get fit quick enough for me ,personally I would splash the Murphy money on a quality midfielder and move Basham to centre half which I think is his best position.[/QUOTE

Agree with most of that in particular the Basham bit. As I say in the post you are replying to, Baxter doesn't fit into 4-4-2. As playmaker and to utilise his creative skills he needs to be operating more at the sharp end upfield.

If we do sign a midfielder I hope he can have the confidence to play the ball forwards and seek the ball forward as well as "tackle and chase" if we are [laying 4-4-2. A "tackle and chaser" can be afforded in a 5 man midfield IMO, not 4-4-2 where the central two have to do more. Yesterday first half the wingers were not doing well yet it was our only plan and we got the ball to them far too slowly. Only Baxter found Sammon and Sharp on occasions but they were isolated unless they came deep.

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Pinchy said:
I'll continue to form my own opinions, not conditioned by someone writing a report.

I'll just emphasise yet again. Poor finishing by the opposition is not a "let-off". There are 8 yards between the posts, plenty of room; no need to hit post at all. In any event, outside of post; Howard not beaten at all; had it covered.

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Strange thing to write, Deadbat is doing this as a service that the vast majority of us, especially the overseas fans really appreciate. I have never felt conditioned by him but when I have seen the same game live and read the following report then I know that they are of a high quality and also as I see a majority of the game.
The same as I would also value your comments on certain players and aspects of the game, though you have now moved into extremes to get some of your points over :)
 
sitwell said:
The difference between Basham and Baxter is Baxter is regarded as our play maker with this amazing talent ,and Basham does his tackling and chasing. Someone said it was lack of options and movement that caused Baxter to pass sideways ,hes got Adams and JCR out wide and 2 of the hardest working forwards in the league up front ,surely a magician like him should be able to find a forward pass every now and then ? We were playing a team who are down and out FFS. How many excuses do we make this guy until we realise he simply isn't good or willing enough ? It seems every week some make excuses for him and work out formations to accommodate him at the expense of better players. Then he has a steady game when the whole team play well and hes a genius for another month.Wallace cant get fit quick enough for me ,personally I would splash the Murphy money on a quality midfielder and move Basham to centre half which I think is his best position.
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In the first half I somewhat felt for Baxter a tiny bit. Absolutely nobody in the side around him seemed to want to run into space, it obviously frustrated him which led to countless misplaced passes which was very poor from him. Second half as the movement of wide players and forward players became apparent he should have been able to find them quickly with meaning but he struggled. He shouldn't be playing in a midfield 4 because as of yet he hasn't seemed to be comfortable. Hopefully Wallace is fit enough soon. It was a poor performance from José, but first half a lot of what was wrong wasn't due to Baxter.
 
CopenhagenBlade said:
Strange thing to write, Deadbat is doing this as a service that the vast majority of us, especially the overseas fans really appreciate. I have never felt conditioned by him but when I have seen the same game live and read the following report then I know that they are of a high quality and also as I see a majority of the game.
The same as I would also value your comments on certain players and aspects of the game, though you have now moved into extremes to get some of your points over :)
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Deaders is the puppet master. You are Emu to his Rod Hull. And that's just at weekends.
 
Deadbat said:
To say that free kick is poor finishing is ridiculous. It was an effort from 25 yards. A really good effort and I am sorry but it is unfortunate when you strike the post for me from such range and such a good effort. Howard for me was scrambling across and if you watch it again his final dive is almost after it hits the post. If it had been a shade the other way I feel it would have gone in.

I'll continue to form my own opinions of what is unfortunate and not unfortunate not based on your rather black and white stating of facts. Football is not that simple. Someone who hits the post from 5 yards under no pressure in front of goal is in my mind not unlucky. It is poor finishing but a shot from 25 yards is a good effort and can be deemed unfortunate. I am not sure how you can compare both situations. It is something we will probably never agree on.

As for your 'I'll continue to form my own opinions.....' That is fine. Once again what makes you think people are conditioned by mine or anyone else's thoughts? Not seen anything to suggest that is the case. I think you are imagining things. Some will agree, some will disagree as they have on this forum - are you suggesting fans do not have the intelligence/football knowledge to analyse the game themselves (whether they agree or disagree) and somehow just go along with what I/or someone elses writes? Seriously. That is quite insulting to many Blades. Finally, if my reports are so bad and you disagree so vehemently with them why do you bother reading them and then replying? ;)
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Oversensitive imo. If you're going to write for public consumption then people are going to have opinions.
 

Dnblade said:
Agree with a lot of that DB..but although Baxter was a bit sloppy with his passing,he was the one trying to pass forwards..think he was involved with one of the few chances we had in the first half,but worth more than a 5 surely.
Spot on with Bash..great without the ball,but dwells on it in possesion and doesn't do anything with it.
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Saw a lot of Bash & Baxter passing it backwards and sideways, but not forwards so much, I'll keep an eye out for that next time.:D
 
metalblade said:
I think the ratings for Howard and McEverley are on the generous side, Howard made 3 mistakes in the first 15 mins, letting a ball run through the six yard box then berating Wallace for not dealing with it all he needed to do was catch it. A few minutes later he dallied with a kick which was close to being charged down it ended up going low up field but could easily have gone to a Blackpool player, a few minutes later got the ball stuck between his feet and had to rush the clearance but after that he was OK to be fair and made a good save in the second half. McEverley.......... I thought the fair haired Blackpool attacker gave him a torrid time he hardly won a header all game and his passing was awful one cross field ball going straight into the John St crowd about six rows back. we still need a reliable keeper and another centre back. I thought both full backs did well as did Campbell Ryce, Edgar was solid enough and did his job with little fuss, Sharp got better as the game went on the rest for me were average to poor, the Sammon miss deary me our cat could have tapped that one in :oops::oops::oops:
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Worse miss I've seen at Lane for a good while, he can have that one though metal for his Peterboro' performance:)
 
Deadbat said:
To say that free kick is poor finishing is ridiculous. It was an effort from 25 yards. A really good effort and I am sorry but it is unfortunate when you strike the post for me from such range and such a good effort. Howard for me was scrambling across and if you watch it again his final dive is almost after it hits the post. If it had been a shade the other way I feel it would have gone in.

I'll continue to form my own opinions of what is unfortunate and not unfortunate not based on your rather black and white stating of facts. Football is not that simple. Someone who hits the post from 5 yards under no pressure in front of goal is in my mind not unlucky. It is poor finishing but a shot from 25 yards is a good effort and can be deemed unfortunate. I am not sure how you can compare both situations. It is something we will probably never agree on.

As for your 'I'll continue to form my own opinions.....' That is fine. Once again what makes you think people are conditioned by mine or anyone else's thoughts? Not seen anything to suggest that is the case. I think you are imagining things. Some will agree, some will disagree as they have on this forum - are you suggesting fans do not have the intelligence/football knowledge to analyse the game themselves (whether they agree or disagree) and somehow just go along with what I/or someone elses writes? Seriously. That is quite insulting to many Blades. Finally, if my reports are so bad and you disagree so vehemently with them why do you bother reading them and then replying? ;)
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I may give them a miss in future. One is much the same as the next. You are entitled to mis-state the obvious as much as you wish. Keep telling people that the failure of opposition (and it never seems to apply to United, does it?) players to hit the target is "a let off" or "fortunate" or "got away with it" or other such nonsense.

You really ought, however, to start a campaign to persuade the FA to increase the width of the goals to 30 yards. We really must eliminate the uncertainty of matches constantly being decided by the outrageous good fortune of opposition players not being good enough to get the ball within the frame of the goal. There's clearly not enough room. In fact let's do away with the woodwork and make the whole of the goal line the "goal".

We could call it say, Rugby or something.
 
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Pinchy said:
I may give them a miss in future. One is much the same as the next. You are entitled to mis-state the obvious as much as you wish. Keep telling people that the failure of opposition (and it never seems to apply to United, does it?) players to hit the target is "a let off" or "fortunate" or "got away with it" or other such nonsense.
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It all depends on the circumstances, doesn't it?

If, say, the opposition fail to hit the target as a result of our good defensive play, it's clearly not "fortunate."

If, on the other hand, we defend appallingly and their centre-forward is left with a simple tap-in which he somehow scoops over the bar, it represents a let-off.

As for it never applying to United players this is a Blades forum. Poor finishing by one of our players amounts to the opposition's good fortune but people posting on here wouldn't call it that because they post from a United perspective.
 
Rodders said:
Pinchy has been a prick towards Deadbat and his reports for ages - probably because people appreciate the effort he puts in and Pinchy wants the attention.
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That just reinforces the point: If you're going to publish anything, especially online, chances are there are going to be negative responses, rational, irrational, personal whatever.

It just reads as very odd conversation between a writer and a reader.

Haters gonna hate.

A very long video on the subject, with some good advice.

 
Pinchy said:
I may give them a miss in future. One is much the same as the next. You are entitled to mis-state the obvious as much as you wish. Keep telling people that the failure of opposition (and it never seems to apply to United, does it?) players to hit the target is "a let off" or "fortunate" or "got away with it" or other such nonsense.

You really ought, however, to start a campaign to persuade the FA to increase the width of the goals to 30 yards. We really must eliminate the uncertainty of matches constantly being decided by the outrageous good fortune of opposition players not being good enough to get the ball within the frame of the goal. There's clearly not enough room. In fact let's do away with the woodwork and make the whole of the goal line the "goal".

We could call it say, Rugby or something.
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We will never agree on the subject as a I say. Still believe it is too simplistic to say if a player hits the post/woodwork or even just past the post it is always a bad miss. If a player runs from his own half and beats 2 or 3 men and hits a shot from 35 yards that either hits the post or just goes wide, is that not a good effort; some may even say unfortunate if it hits the post and goes out when another shot a millimetre the other way could hit the post and go in. The latter is then a great shot where as the former is a bad shot/effort? I do not think it is simplistic as you often portray and context is needed to the type of miss. By your thinking of football reports whether mine or others would just describe shots/headers missing or going in with no real description. Would make analysis of football rather dull wouldn't it to make it so black and white?

As for giving my reports a miss; no problems at all whether you read them or not - it is a forum and as others have said I am there to be disagreed with, shot at etc. A lot have taken issues with the marks for Baxter or Basham which is fine and I like debate. I do feel you are being somewhat hypocritical to state my reports as much the same as the next when I can almost guarantee any post you make in such a thread will be have the personal dig or criticism in it. I would love you to take the time to do a report occasionally and to provoke some debate. I certainly don't do them to capture praise or lots of likes. I'd like to think they still offer a service to some fans and as I say also encourage debate and certainly no issues with people disagreeing/debating.

Just an odd thing to start a post with 'I'll continue to form my own opinions, not conditioned by someone writing a report.' I repeat what makes you think people are conditioned by me writing a report? Clearly a lot of polar opinions on players/performances from yesterday on here suggest otherwise.
 
Rodders said:
Pinchy has been a prick towards Deadbat and his reports for ages - probably because people appreciate the effort he puts in and Pinchy wants the attention.
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Nonsense is nonsense. You can appreciate and admire as much as you like. It either is or it is not....
 
Deadbat said:
We will never agree on the subject as a I say. Still believe it is too simplistic to say if a player hits the post/woodwork or even just past the post it is always a bad miss. If a player runs from his own half and beats 2 or 3 men and hits a shot from 35 yards that either hits the post or just goes wide, is that not a good effort; some may even say unfortunate if it hits the post and goes out when another shot a millimetre the other way could hit the post and go in. The latter is then a great shot where as the former is a bad shot/effort? I do not think it is simplistic as you often portray and context is needed to the type of miss. By your thinking of football reports whether mine or others would just describe shots/headers missing or going in with no real description. Would make analysis of football rather dull wouldn't it to make it so black and white?

As for giving my reports a miss; no problems at all whether you read them or not - it is a forum and as others have said I am there to be disagreed with, shot at etc. A lot have taken issues with the marks for Baxter or Basham which is fine and I like debate. I do feel you are being somewhat hypocritical to state my reports as much the same as the next when I can almost guarantee any post you make in such a thread will be have the personal dig or criticism in it. I would love you to take the time to do a report occasionally and to provoke some debate. I certainly don't do them to capture praise or lots of likes. I'd like to think they still offer a service to some fans and as I say also encourage debate and certainly no issues with people disagreeing/debating.

Just an odd thing to start a post with 'I'll continue to form my own opinions, not conditioned by someone writing a report.' I repeat what makes you think people are conditioned by me writing a report? Clearly a lot of polar opinions on players/performances from yesterday on here suggest otherwise.
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I don't need to read reports, whether yours (which might well be much appreciated by those who can't attend matches) to express my views. Unless it's something very specific I will very rarely say "I agree/disagree with X...". I begin with original thoughts and then listen to others.

If I miss a 30 feet putt by six inches that is a brilliant effort (as the free-kick may have been) but it is not remotely unfortunate. I should have hit the ball with greater precision and then it would have gone in. The same applies to the taker of the free-kick. On your highly simplistic analysis a shot that creeps in three inches from the post is as fortunate as the one that misses by three inches (hitting the post is missing the target, you realise?). It's absurd.

I have neither the time nor inclination to write reports but I've a knack for knowing the meaning of words...you are perhaps less fortunate...
 
William Henry Foulkes said:
That just reinforces the point: If you're going to publish anything, especially online, chances are there are going to be negative responses, rational, irrational, personal whatever.

It just reads as very odd conversation between a writer and a reader.

Haters gonna hate.

A very long video on the subject, with some good advice.

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Let me be clear. I don't hate anyone at all and certainly not anyone on a football forum...

What a curious suggestion.
 
It's interesting to see that the lack of movement from the team is Baxters fault. Not that I should be surprised, he is pretty much to blame for everything wrong in the world today. But Basham better than Baxter yesterday? Baxter wasn't fantastic, but at least he wasn't a passenger.
 
Pinchy said:
Let me be clear. I don't hate anyone at all and certainly not anyone on a football forum...
What a curious suggestion.
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Haters Gonna Hate

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