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Sadly due to working ridiculously long hours this week cannot do a full report and only just made the game tonight. I will post player ratings and a brief summary but it will not take long anyway! Anyone wants to fill in the gaps they are more than welcome....



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It finished 0-0 and was a dire game. United were awful and even though we got better in the 2nd half we have to do much better than that. Performances like that and we won’t go up (whether we make the playoffs or not). Indeed we could say we were lucky to get a point overall. Chances were quite even but they had the better ones; a one on one Long saved and then a double save that both easily could have gone in. They had another curled effort which grazed the post and several other scrambles. They had loads of corners and free kicks and for an away side had a lot of chances really. We had a Collins shot past the post, Poleon the same when he was one on one and then Flynn hit the post. At the end Doyle’s shot was well saved but that was our only shot on target all game. We had more of the ball but did nothing with it. They defended with a bank of 4 and sometimes 5 and then had 5 in midfield. However you cannot say they just defended as I have mentioned the chances they had. They did not just sit back and relax.

Our passing, touch, urgency and use of the ball were really poor. We took ages to get it forward and everything was done at a snail’s pace. When we got in their half they had men behind the ball and then relied on something from Robson or McDonald. We had little to nothing up front and the crossing and corners were woeful (from a number of players).



It was a game we did not deserve to win and on reflection a draw was the right result. It was a game we so easily could have lost though and it would have been cruel if we had snatched it. I felt if anyone did more to win (certainly for an away side) it was them. Fair play to them. The lad up front worked really hard. They pressed and defended well. They worked harder than us and actually had players who showed a greater desire.



We have to do better at home and can’t keep saying it is the crowd. If they cannot start properly and get the crowd behind them then they can go and play for Chesterfield or Bury in front of a few thousand. Yes it is a more pressure in some ways but some of players need to show some balls and start grasping responsibility. Too many did not want to know tonight and if they cannot break teams down like Orient what chance have they got higher up the pyramid. If we somehow do get up most of these are not good enough and would have to be replaced. Sounds harsh but we are such a slow and predictable side and lack creativity, pace and movement. Orient defended fairly comfortably save for a few long range efforts and the Poleon chance. Overall they did more than enough for their point. When many other sides dropped points it was a chance to push on but now we face two even tougher games in my opinion in Oldham and MK Dons and will have to improve massively on that. We do seem better away from home but with 6 more games to come at the Lane including Brentford and Swindon we need to start playing with more urgency, greater tempo and desire and use our heads more too.



Long 8.5/10 – Excellent. Without him we could have lost. He made a one on one save in the first half, blocked another when the player went through on him afterwards and then made a superb double save (being a bit critical you could have said he might have pushed first shot out wide – like Coventry). However the second save was superb. Caught a few crosses and we our best player tonight.



McMahon 4/10 –Think he is distinctly average at best. Lacks pace, mobility and takes too long to do things. He commits daft fouls and his positional sense is not great either. Can really why he has dropped down the leagues. He did put a few decent crosses in near the end.



Collins 4/10 – Maybe the best of our defenders but only because occasionally he took responsibility and tried to come out with it. Even then he was often taking too long or lumping it too early. When he had the chance to play it often he delayed and allowed them to get men behind the ball. Sliced a few crosses and along with Maguire never imposed themselves totally on one centre forward (Mooney and earlier Batt). Should have scored with a decent chance in the first half.



Maguire 3/10 – A game like tonight shows sadly why no one has come for him. So slow at times and could have cost us a goal and very lucky the forward did not go down when he let him get through as there was definite contact. He made a few other poor decisions such as silly fouls and also some short passes mixed in with aimless punts to no one. Looked very poor tonight and was slow to the ball (see Collins comment). They were taking too long to come out and allowed them to just get men behind the ball.



Higginbottom 6.5/10 – I get called for criticising him but I think he is pretty woeful. His control and basic passing is often a shambles as he seems to control balls and get them around his head instantly. He played 4 aimless balls straight out in the first half; got beat easily twice and generally looked another player on his last legs. I prefer Hill in this position as he is a better positional player, has more pace and at least just keeps it simple.



Robson 7.5/10 – Our best outfield player in my opinion. He at least took some responsibility and actually got on the ball and tried to move it about. Not everything came off but he played some of the better balls (few through balls including the pass of the game to Poleon when he ought to have scored). Tired badly and his set plays were not up to scratch but he is the one player who looks like he can make things happen.

McDonald 7/10 – Mixed bag. Some lovely passes but some giveaways and some bad decisions. Had a few chances to create second half but overplayed or went the wrong way. He was still one on our better players but at times his passing was mixed. He did try and move it about but we had little to no movement and then got frustrated. Physically he is woeful in the challenge and for a big bloke gets moved about too much.

Flynn 3/10 – Really poor. Another who I have been accused of being over critical against but he is so ordinary. He is a winger that cannot get decent crosses in, does not beat a man and often the games just passes him by. Had our best effort with a shot against the post but floated in 4 or 5 awful crosses straight into the keepers hands. He is a player that symbolises our current side for me. Slow, lightweight and lacking in any kind of idea, drive or nous.



Doyle 3/10 – Shocking. He gave it away more than he kept it. He was supposed to be breaking up play but most of the time I was not sure who he was marking or where he was meant to be. He played countless balls to no one in particular and seemed to be always at full stretch or out of the play. He had the occasional decent game but mostly he is poor and it is beyond me why we gave him a new contract. Surely there are better players with more mobility, passing and effort than him. You can hardly say he even puts himself about? Cannot remember a tackle or interception he made all game.



Poleon 7/10 – First half he was off the pace and other than one run where he sort of bumbled through, I cannot recall him getting involved much. He was much better after the break and ran at his men having a few crosses/shots blocked and also getting into the box. He missed a glorious chance when put through when he did not even make the keeper work and shot wide. Surprised he went off as he seemed to be getting better and more influential and we kind of lost the impetus after this.



Kitson 4/10 – Not his night. Seemed to be just looking for fouls and actually lost most headers and was not really a factor. He did link a few times with Robson but his touch was off and he never really looked a goal threat or linked with Poleon. Not surprised he went off.



Subs



McFadzean – Never really got into it. Had a few cross field runs at the end but given a few chances to go at his man he opted to go back and never put a ball over. Also committed a wild foul that could have been a red card (high and late).



De Girolamo –Difficult for him as we were struggling and asked to make an impact. He had one run but crosses too soon and tried an acrobatic overhead kick where he missed the ball but kicked the man. Looks lively and wants to get on the ball. Like to see more of him.



Cresswell – Jumped and missed a few headers and then fell over twice. Sorry state of affairs when he is asked to be the saviour.



Crowd - Not the biggest and it was very cold to say the least. Felt they were patient considering the poor play and basics that the home side could not do. Yes second half they started to groan and lose patience but can’t blame them. To pay money to watch players firstly at times not showing enough effort (second to so many balls) and then mainly not using their brains. The lack of intelligence and also nous in many of our players is frightening especially considering many are quite experienced.



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Kitson 4 Flynn 3 Doyle 3 - Macdonald 7 ??? are you being serious ?
 
Kitson 4 Flynn 3 Doyle 3 - Macdonald 7 ??? are you being serious ?

Kitson was shocking, Doyle needs dropping. Did McFazdean have to play on the right only because left midfield is the only position the right footed Flynn can only play? I am fed up of Flynn's floated crosses that is easy for keeper to collect also that we have flank midfielders playing on the wrong wing. Agree with Deadbat that McDonald was a mixed bag but thought 7 was a bit too generous. Poleon reminds me of Cadette
 
Another unbelievably bad home performance against average opposition. No urgency, no pace, no quality, wayward passing, poor control, continually going backwards.....

Apart from Long (for his shot stopping rather than control of his area which again was iffy), everyone was poor - with some, most noticeably Kitson & Maguire, being absolutely shocking. I'd give Long 7, Kitson & Maguire 0 and the rest 1!

I was expecting so much more after our recent form. It is really baffling how we can look so bad at home.
 
I've not seen it mentioned but It seemed to me that we started with Poleon up front and then moved him wide after about 3o minutes. This meant the second striker was effectively Robson in a deep-lying role but he didn't really get forward in support of Kitson much and certainly never got beyond him. This may have been an effective tactic to use away at Bournemouth but I don't think it was ever going to be effective at home.

Personally, I would have brought Diego on as the second striker much earlier and replaced Flynn. This would have given us the creativity of Robson, McDonald and De Girolamo along with Poleon's pace and Kitson's power all on the pitch at the same time. I felt that we were much too cautious for an home team playing a more lowly side. We didn't commit enough men forward. The full backs didn't overlap enough and we kept players on the pitch who were nullifying the opposition rather than taking the game to them.
 
Deadbat - Flynn is a 'wide midfielder' not a winger.

So we are told.

You're not the only one who thinks he's bobbar.


TVM for the report

pommpey
 
Cheers DB. I couldn't go last night, so made do with radio. Paul walker sounded suicidally bored. From listening, i was just waiting for orient to score, sounded truly awful. Why are we so Shit at home?
 
Im sure I saw a screamer from Doyle tipped over the bar , doesnt that count as a shot on target as we only drew, Teams will come to frustrate us and Murphy missing caused changes we could have done without.
362 minutes since we last conceded to shrewsbury , a consolation goal so somethings right, I watched barca s highlights last night , if you thought we were lack lustre you should see how the worlds best team played at home , it happens
 
Im sure I saw a screamer from Doyle tipped over the bar , doesnt that count as a shot on target as we only drew, Teams will come to frustrate us and Murphy missing caused changes we could have done without.
362 minutes since we last conceded to shrewsbury , a consolation goal so somethings right, I watched barca s highlights last night , if you thought we were lack lustre you should see how the worlds best team played at home , it happens
Unfortunately, BTL it happens to United most weeks when they play at home - Wilson coming out with they're nervous, frightened to express themselves, unsettled in front of expectant crowds - unfortunately Mr Wilson thats part and parcel of being at a 'big club' you are always crowing about!
Sheffield United attract bigger crowds than any other club in this pub league - the players and management know what we expect - either deliver or ship out!
 
Higginbotham should have been 3 not 6.5/10. Not sure how they went in like that! Very tired.

As for McDonald he along with robson was only one trying to get on the bal. Kitson did nothing to little. Doyle was atrocious. I watched him closely second half and if he was not giving the ball away, he was not marking when in possession and then he was putting himself out of play by going to ground.

Flynn had one run that led to a corner and then he put in 6 crosses looped straight into keepers hands. The only thing he did right really was the shot.
 
To reply to DB, Doyle got a new contract because Danny Wilson likes and appreciates rubbish clogger footballers on long contracts.
 
Cannot believe in the space of three days the back four change from being organised unit into one that looks totally disorganised.

I'm not going into detail but we look to Collins/McGuire to perform they didn't last night and it went through the team.

The marking was some of the worst I've seen this year so was the distribution from the back and better sides than Orient would have punished us.

Wilson still cannot find a system how to break down the 451 formations from visiting sides but he needs to sort it.
 



Im sure I saw a screamer from Doyle tipped over the bar , doesnt that count as a shot on target as we only drew, Teams will come to frustrate us and Murphy missing caused changes we could have done without.
362 minutes since we last conceded to shrewsbury , a consolation goal so somethings right, I watched barca s highlights last night , if you thought we were lack lustre you should see how the worlds best team played at home , it happens
it's the only thing he's done all season though..
i'd agree with all the marks except KMac was probably a six.. we went to hoofball when poleon went off.. in fact we went to a total shambles when poleon went off
once again i DO NOT UNDERSTAND WILSONS SUBSTITUTIONS (thanks feel better now)
Poleon was really getting into the game and getting an understanding going with KMac .. he had the right back on toast and Wilson takes him off.. leaves Flynn on. at the end we had no shape whatsoever and KMac was stood watching the ball go over his head.. it was full on panic
Doyle has to be dropped he is awful.. and Flynn.. i'd have him in front of a firing squad.. he does absolutely nothing
 
This may be being picky, but I'm sure it was Cresswell that went for the overhead kick near the end.

And as much as I rate McDonald, he didn't have a good game last night. I'd have given him a 5/10 rather than 7. You can usually tell when McDonald isn't on it, mainly because we end up playing like we did last night!

Other than that, I agree. I thought Long did make a mistake with his parry like you said, but he more than made up for it with the save.
 
it's the only thing he's done all season though..
i'd agree with all the marks except KMac was probably a six.. we went to hoofball when poleon went off.. in fact we went to a total shambles when poleon went off
once again i DO NOT UNDERSTAND WILSONS SUBSTITUTIONS (thanks feel better now)
Poleon was really getting into the game and getting an understanding going with KMac .. he had the right back on toast and Wilson takes him off.. leaves Flynn on. at the end we had no shape whatsoever and KMac was stood watching the ball go over his head.. it was full on panic
Doyle has to be dropped he is awful.. and Flynn.. i'd have him in front of a firing squad.. he does absolutely nothing

You are right about Doyle and Flynn they bring little to the table Poleon looked menacing but needs match fitness I think on Saturday with a counter attacking ethic he will hurt Oldham.
As for Cresswell coming on cannot get my head round that one.
 
And as much as I rate McDonald, he didn't have a good game last night. I'd have given him a 5/10 rather than 7. You can usually tell when McDonald isn't on it, mainly because we end up playing like we did last night!.

I agree with this, bit for me the cause and effect are the wrong way around. If the team plays well McDonald will. You won't see him have a good game if others don't perform - his style dicates that you need a recieveing player in space. In terms of the stuff he can do by himself (tackle, harass, shoot, score) he's actually a poor player.

UTB
 
This may be being picky, but I'm sure it was Cresswell that went for the overhead kick near the end.

And as much as I rate McDonald, he didn't have a good game last night. I'd have given him a 5/10 rather than 7. You can usually tell when McDonald isn't on it, mainly because we end up playing like we did last night!

Other than that, I agree. I thought Long did make a mistake with his parry like you said, but he more than made up for it with the save.

It was, definitely.
 
it's the only thing he's done all season though..
i'd agree with all the marks except KMac was probably a six.. we went to hoofball when poleon went off.. in fact we went to a total shambles when poleon went off
once again i DO NOT UNDERSTAND WILSONS SUBSTITUTIONS (thanks feel better now)
Poleon was really getting into the game and getting an understanding going with KMac .. he had the right back on toast and Wilson takes him off.. leaves Flynn on. at the end we had no shape whatsoever and KMac was stood watching the ball go over his head.. it was full on panic
Doyle has to be dropped he is awful.. and Flynn.. i'd have him in front of a firing squad.. he does absolutely nothing
POLEON WAS KNACKERED!
 
Another unbelievably bad home performance against average opposition. No urgency, no pace, no quality, wayward passing, poor control, continually going backwards.....

Apart from Long (for his shot stopping rather than control of his area which again was iffy), everyone was poor - with some, most noticeably Kitson & Maguire, being absolutely shocking. I'd give Long 7, Kitson & Maguire 0 and the rest 1!

I was expecting so much more after our recent form. It is really baffling how we can look so bad at home.

The answer - play all remaining games away!:)
 
The answer - play all remaining games away!:)

Given we don't have a team capable of making the running, I'd be up for that. I'd happily do without watching us at home - if it got us promotion - even though I've paid for a season ticket. :)
 
If I'm honest, I'm really quite shocked by some of the ratings. For me, Long should have had a 9, he did nothing at all wrong last night, but that's the least shocking to me. Maguire's rating I agree with but Collins seemed to win everything in the first half and actually looked decent on the ball, faded a bit in the second half but a 4 is very harsh. McDonald's rating was far too high, in fact I would swap his and Collins' round. Flynn...3.... really? I thought he didn't do much wrong but he was woeful in the final bits of the game. For me, Poleon looked the most threatening player and Wilson must be mad by thinking Cresswell was a decent replacement. And by the way.... The overhead acrobatic kick at the end was Cresswell not Diego, Diego looked good to me, the only thing he did wrong was the first thing he did when he chipped it through to Cressy. That's all :)
 
If I'm honest, I'm really quite shocked by some of the ratings. For me, Long should have had a 9, he did nothing at all wrong last night, but that's the least shocking to me. Maguire's rating I agree with but Collins seemed to win everything in the first half and actually looked decent on the ball, faded a bit in the second half but a 4 is very harsh. McDonald's rating was far too high, in fact I would swap his and Collins' round. Flynn...3.... really? I thought he didn't do much wrong but he was woeful in the final bits of the game. For me, Poleon looked the most threatening player and Wilson must be mad by thinking Cresswell was a decent replacement. And by the way.... The overhead acrobatic kick at the end was Cresswell not Diego, Diego looked good to me, the only thing he did wrong was the first thing he did when he chipped it through to Cressy. That's all :)

Have to agree. Flynn seems to be the latest scapegoat at the moment and for me,whilst not playing well,was easily a 5/6 yesterday.

As for KMac......he is a coward. When the going gets tough,he normally disappoers. Doyle was poor last night but at least he tried to take some responsibility. KMac just hid,made few attempts to lose his marker and never made himself available t the defence. When he received the ball,he just passed it to the opposition or hit it out of play. Worse polayer on the pitch yesterday followed closely by Kitson.

Creswell contributed more to the team in 15 minutes than Kitson did in 75 minutes.

As for Diego...from the bits I've seen he needs to get the basics right then do the fancy stuff in or around th box. If we are patient I think we have a good one. I like the look of MacFadzean. Quite quick,agressive and enthsiastic and always seemed to be looking to create. I would like to see him on the left in the role Dane Whitehouse used to play. I was more impressed with him yesterday than Diego
 
All in all it was a very frustrating display , but thats football some days it falls into place some days all the options chosen dont quite fall into place. We didnt lose or concede are the up side , the negative we failed to look cohesive at home again, from middle to front. The overall picture wasnt bad as we only lost ground to donny , but gained on bournemouth swindon and yeovil. Top spot will continue to move from one to another and so long as we are 1 point from it, or in front on april 27th Ill be happy, Maguire was less dominant and thought macca was below his recent form , but Charlton last year played far worse , but got lucky in a lot of games , we could use the odd bit of that, and less panic over a drawn game
 
Unfortunately, BTL it happens to United most weeks when they play at home - Wilson coming out with they're nervous, frightened to express themselves, unsettled in front of expectant crowds - unfortunately Mr Wilson thats part and parcel of being at a 'big club' you are always crowing about!
Sheffield United attract bigger crowds than any other club in this pub league - the players and management know what we expect - either deliver or ship out!

I dont think crowd size has that much to do with anything, we are a young side teenage keeper , Maguire still a baby , experience wise, young Poleon short of first team time, we drew at home , had we drawn at bournemouth and beaten orient thered be no complaints , but at the end of the day we got 4 points from the 2, so its just a bit galling we had the chance to stay top , but it really really doesnt matter for another 2 month yet that we need to be at the summit, on april 27th , before then is immaterial
 
I dont think crowd size has that much to do with anything, we are a young side teenage keeper , Maguire still a baby , experience wise, young Poleon short of first team time, we drew at home , had we drawn at bournemouth and beaten orient thered be no complaints , but at the end of the day we got 4 points from the 2, so its just a bit galling we had the chance to stay top , but it really really doesnt matter for another 2 month yet that we need to be at the summit, on april 27th , before then is immaterial

Hold On - Young Side? Higginbotham, Collins, Doyle, Kitson, Robson - all over 30, Maguire a baby experience wise? - he was making his 100 league appearance on Tuesday, MacDonald and McMahon are not exactly in the first flush of youth which leaves Flynn (23?) Long & Poleon
Not that young is it when you break it down
Stop making excuses BTL - they are professional footballers - if they want to play in front of 2-3ooo week in week out go and play for the likes of Barnet, Aldershot and Bury - if they pull on the shirt for SUFC they know that there will be 16-18000 willing them to win!
As for Wilson blaming the fans - look a bit closer to home Danny Boy ! You are paid to motivate & plan - you are paid to get the players wanting to get promotion just as much as the fans.
Get a grip - stop blaming all other factors - Orient was down to you and the players not the fans - one win out of the last five home games is just unacceptable!
 



Oh, I forgot - We still have Richard Cresswell - he struggles to last the pace for 9 minutes never mind 90 -
Player / Coach - just stick to the coaching duties Richard the player bit has come to an end -it's just not happening!!
 

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