Uncle Neil’s final visit to the Lane?

[Jonboy60]

Nothing like Mourhino and Wenger then (or Ferguson!!)?

Nothing like those 2 no, they won things. Don't make them less of a set of moaning bastards.
But when you've won European trophies, domestic cups, and league titles, people tend to agree with you more. For the record I've no problem with NW.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Most over-rated manager this year - Rosler

To be fair to Rosler , you do well keeping Fleetwood in league1 , never mind getting them into the playoffs .

His stock has fallen , same as the bloke at Southend . Like a lot of managers , he is at the last chance saloon .

Just look at Dave Jones .

 

[Pinchy]

Me, I like promotion me. I send my congratulations to Chris Wilder, me.

Me, I was utterly out of my depth in the top league, me. I never got a second season, me. Me, I'm the Alan Partridge of football management, me. That's why I always say I prefer the Championship, me, when in truth it's the Premiership that doesn't prefer me, me.

 

[Tray]

Warnock did one thing that we can all agree on - created some amazing memories: cup runs, promotion to the Premier League, last minute goals galore. Had some great times watch United under Warnock, especially the 2002/03 season.

However, I completely understand people that don't like him. He just loves controversy. I don't think he means even half the stuff he says.

How can every set of fans be the best he's ever seen?

Anyway, I'll always be thankful for what he did, but imagine what could have been if we had just attacked a little bit more in those last few games. Survival really was our for the taking.

 

[Billyblade]

 

[Hodgyman]

I enjoyed many a match and season watching United under Warnock and will never slag him off. He managed to get good results against good teams beyond the expectations set by the budget he had to work within. His results were through player motivation and sheer hard work by his players although they were often outclassed by the opposition.

Chris Wilder has done even better with a similar modest budget, but not only has he achieved great results (League champions with 100 points) with team motivation, team work and also probably the best footballing performances I have witnessed from a United team. This present team were not outclassed by any opposition, praised by many supporters of the of our oponents (See the Roybig posts after games).

Warnock did well for us but there is only ONE Chris Wilder, long may he reign over us

 

[Sean Thornton]

I remember in the Lemmy documentary it was revealed that Lemmy had been around so long that he “remembered a time before Rock n Roll”. Warnock’s not quite the Lemmy of football management, but he was certainly managing before the Premier League existed. He was managing Notts County in what is now the PL while it was still called Division One, back in 1992. When the Blades won promotion from Division 4 in 1981 he was managing Burton. No doubt he’s one of the old school, and it’s a credit to him that he’s still in there earning a wage when most of his counterparts from the 90s are now gone.

Presuming he’s still managing Cardiff, it could be his last visit to the Lane next season as a manager, so we should all give him plenty of respect and applause. He truly is a legend.

By the way, has the big nosed twat congratulated us on our promotion yet?

I'm sure his next announcement that he's "retiring" will be believed like the last couple.

 

[Sean Thornton]

It was The Sun who dragged up the topic of Warnock's contract on the eve of the Wigan match.

Not much Warnock can do to prevent that.

It's funny how people are usually happy to treat the tabloid's shit-stirring nonsense with the contempt it deserves.

Unless it suits their agenda to treat it as the gospel truth for ever more.

Didn't he give them an interview regarding it?

 

[Sean Thornton]

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/othersport/7174/Warnock-quits-Sheffield-United

 

[Sean Thornton]

Certainly gave one to the Express...


http://www.express.co.uk/sport/othersport/6874/Final-game-will-seal-future-for-Blade-runners

 

[CrookesBlade]

Pointless asking who is the better manager until they've done it at the same level. Warnock's achievements at SUFC remain greater but who knows what the next couple of seasons could bring.

Both had a similar galvanising effect over the whole club and both were the right men for the job at the right time.

 

[Silent Blade]

Certainly gave one to the Express...


http://www.express.co.uk/sport/othersport/6874/Final-game-will-seal-future-for-Blade-runners

£450,000 a year is a lot more than what Wilder is earning now!

 

[Sean Thornton]

£450,000 a year is a lot more than what Wilder is earning now!

It wasn't about money but he found it unacceptable.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

It wasn't about money but he found it unacceptable.

Plenty question the bladeyness of Warnock's Blade credentials, but I think it's because of these that McCabe felt he could have him managing a team in the Premier League on a relatively cheap 1 year deal – something few managers would accept. The deal we handed out-of-work-and-desperate-for-work Robson, added to extending the wage bill to levels not sanctioned the previous season, seemed like one big FU to Warnock from McCabe.

"Moaning about the contract you're on and the resources available? Well I'm going to give Bryan Robson (yes, really) a three year deal (yes, really). Unhappy about me not pushing the boat out to get Stephen Warnock in January? Well watch us blow it apart by bringing in Beattie, Hendrie and Naysmith."

 

[Sean Thornton]

Plenty question the bladeyness of Warnock's Blade credentials, but I think it's because of these that McCabe felt he could have him managing a team in the Premier League on a relatively cheap 1 year deal – something few managers would accept. The deal we handed out-of-work-and-desperate-for-work Robson, added to extending the wage bill to levels not sanctioned the previous season, seemed like one big FU to Warnock from McCabe.

"Moaning about the contract you're on and the resources available? Well I'm going to give Bryan Robson (yes, really) a three year deal (yes, really). Unhappy about me not pushing the boat out to get Stephen Warnock in January? Well watch us blow it apart by bringing in Beattie, Hendrie and Naysmith."

I think there was more too it than that. NW's claim that he was offered the Pompey job - which Mandaric has stated several times over the years was not true - and his baffling decision to spend the £3m plus three salaries - "for the future" did for him as much as the relegation. Once he'd refused to sign the new contract there was nothing on the table for him. Fair accompli.

I thought it was Danny Murphy to be honest, but he was given a lump of cash. Look what he did with it.

Robson is a whole different kettle of fish though.

 

[The Hobott]

We'd have stayed up if Hulse had not got injured. Didn't have similar quality in the squad to cover. I like Warnock - think he's quite funny. The football was shit - I didn't actually enjoy going and my dad gave up.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

I don't understand how this thread, bearing in mind the title and OP, has been so much about how he isn't as big a Blade as Wilder.

 

[Dkc]

I don't understand how this thread, bearing in mind the title and OP, has been so much about how he isn't as big a Blade as Wilder.

If we'd had Ched playing for us in the PL under Warnock, would we have been relegated?

 

[Hamburg Blade]

If we'd had Ched playing for us in the PL under Warnock, would we have been relegated?

Instead of Jagielka? Maybe not.

 

[GrayBlade]

Uncle Neil was at his best yesterday.

 

['Doc' Pace my hero]

I think the decision to dismiss Warnock following relegation from the Premier league was ridiculous.If we had stayed up he should have gone,but he was always the best man to get us back,he is an excellent championship manager.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I think the decision to dismiss Warnock following relegation from the Premier league was ridiculous.If we had stayed up he should have gone,but he was always the best man to get us back,he is an excellent championship manager.

How many more times, he wasn't sacked, dismissed, fired or even neutered.

 

[lingsbord]

I don't get the hero worship and I don't get the both-barrels slagging either.

On the upside, he turned the cub around and got us to the Premier League. The only manager to get us promoted in the last 18 years as some else has said. We did have some great times when he was manager and some great laughs with it.

On the downside he's also one of only 2 managers to get us relegated over that same timeframe, and his away tactics in the PL were woeful, leading to us securing only 1 point from a possible 33 in the last 11 away games. 4-5-1 against Liverpool? Great for them, they could leave 2 CBs on our striker and push their fullbacks on to devastating effect.

I can't help liking Warnock, he did a great job of sorting the ugly stuff out and keeping the club on an even keel. I wouldn't say that one amazing season (leading to us winning fuck all) and one promotion makes him a "legend". To me, Bassett is way more deserving of the title. Got us up, kept us up for a while, and all starting from a League lower than where we were under Neil, and don't try to tell me Bassett inherited a great set of players!

I have respect for all former managers so if there's applause for Neil I'll be joining in, but to be honest the football was better under Bassett, Kendall, Spackman............Wilder

 

[JohnDenver]

I think the decision to dismiss Warnock following relegation from the Premier league was ridiculous.If we had stayed up he should have gone,but he was always the best man to get us back,he is an excellent championship manager.

Do you think he'd have stayed if hadn't been pushed? I'm not convinced...

 

[JohnDenver]

We'd have stayed up if Hulse had not got injured. Didn't have similar quality in the squad to cover. I like Warnock - think he's quite funny. The football was shit - I didn't actually enjoy going and my dad gave up.

It's not entirely fair to dismiss the quality of football. In the 2003 season we played some excellent football through the midfield of McCall, Tonge, Ndlovu and Brown. In the promotion season it was effective and good to watch at times.

Not that I'd claim that was always the case. As much as I loved the attitude of the players, we were turgid in some seasons. Not Blackwellianly awful, but frustratingly one-dimensional.

Thankfully Wilder has put paid to the idea that lumping it is the only option for teams of limited finance.

 

[Dkc]

why is there so much bitterness towards Warnock?
since then we've had

Robson - spunked money up the wall and won fuck all
Blackwell - didn't get promoted, worse football ever seen at the Lane
Speed - not long but looked out of his depth
Adams - blade, piss head, relegated
Wilson - pig, didn't take us
Morgan - poor mans Stuart Pearce
Weir - fuckin hell.....
Clough - cup runs amazing, didn't get us up.

so the way I see it, prior to this month, in the last 18 years, Warnock is the only manager to bring promotion ?

The bloke gave us 8 years, transformed the club, took us up and still speaks fondly of us
I divorced my 1st wife years ago, don't particularly like her, but I'm still man enough to say she did a great job of raising our daughter......
bit of respect lads.

Adams never had a reputation as a piss head as far as I can recall. The insinuation may come from the nickname his detractors gave him, "Alehouse Mickey" - which unfairly implied that he was no better than a pub team manager, not that he was a big drinker

Robson and Kendall were the two that liked their pop a bit too much

 

['Doc' Pace my hero]

Do you think he'd have stayed if hadn't been pushed? I'm not convinced...

I don't know,but we should have tried.Unfortunately, McCabe was seduced by a 'big' name.....Bryan 'f***ing Robson which was the prelude to years in the football wilderness.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I don't know,but we should have tried.Unfortunately, McCabe was seduced by a 'big' name.....Bryan 'f***ing Robson which was the prelude to years in the football wilderness.

Doesn't NW say in his book he resigned?

Not getting another contract was his own fault.

 

['Doc' Pace my hero]

Warnock on McCabe,i flew to Brussels and i 'thought we had resolved things amicably' sounds like a settlement,probably both were happy to call it a day.I still think that Warnock was the best man to get us back in the Premier league.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Doesn't NW say in his book he resigned?

I thought his contract simply expired. I also personally think the decision on that was made by McCabe a while before to not renew it, hence why we had the bizarre arrival of Brian Kidd – a man Warnock (prone to rely on past associations for his backroom staff) had never worked with up until that point in his career.