Uncle Neil’s final visit to the Lane?

[Jonboy60]

A really nice guy who created a fantastic, yet divisive media persona. This took all the pressure of his players and heaped it on referees and opposition players, managers and boardrooms. I think he lacked tactically, but could motivate players as well as anyone really. His brother, John, was also hugely influential in the development of our academy. He, arguably, he has the more enduring legacy.

Flip side Nopig, he did wind refs and the top brass up the wrong way. They did us no favours.

 

[Fanny magnet]

Totally agree. I posted something similar before. Memories are short and selective sometimes. Warnock took 8 years to get us to the Prem. I don't know any manager in the club's history who has been given that kind of time to put the club back where it should be. The reason we got relegated from the Prem was not just because of Tevez - it was also because Warnock was so bloody negative with his tactics away from home. Time and time again, he changed the team and went all defensive because he was scared of what the opposition might do to us. Not only that, but he signed some right garbage that never even made it onto the pitch. It was odd to the point of being "suspicious" why he was so fond of signing strikers that never got to play for the team - don't you think? (Or maybe you don't think anything unusual about that? - I think we will learn more about this one day).

On top of that - he was a total embarrassment at times. With his excuses about match officials etc. And not only when we lost. I remember one game when we played away at Derby and the lads did fantastic to win 3-2 I think it was. And his press conference was all about the match officials and how they nearly ruined it. You'd have thought we'd lost.

I think we had some good times under him - and I rate his ability to motivate players - particularly his half-time team talks which tended to have an effect in the second half of games - but he knows how to fool people does that bloke and he's succeeded at it for years.

You're the one with the selective memory mate ,when Warnock came in he built the club up year on year
The rest of your post is just a very selective slant of negativity ,if we'd turned up at premier league grounds all guns blazing wed have been down by Xmas

Thing is the likes of you will be the first to tell us what a cunt wilder is when you get fed up of him winning every week

 

[Jonboy60]

Hope the fixture list pulls us out of the hat quite early in the season, NW may not be at Cardiff that long.
Vincent tan got form with getting rid of managers. Or am I thinking of other owners.
We can only wait and see.

 

[INTERUNITED]

It took Warnock 8 years to get us up because when he first came, we were on the bones of our arses with a load of average players and a high wage bill. He had to reduce the wage bill and basically build the club up from scratch again. We were signing players like Ashley Sestanovic and the like. The first time the board backed us he took us up. We got relegated because a) he was given fuck all to spend (we waited until we got relegated and gave Robson all the cash) and b) we were fucked over by those cheating bastards West ham. Warnock did a fantastic job, and if Wilder can match him that will more than do for me.

 

[INTAKE BLADE]

He had his issue's but he brought some very good times to the lane, you can't argue with that.

 

[Silent Blade]

It's amazing how many otherwise intelligent posters believe that:-

a) A newspaper article can cause a team of professional footballers to play badly and lose a match

b) That Warnock was in a position where he could influence what sort of article that newspaper chose to print about us

c) That if he did have that influence he would use it ensure they printed an article about his contract situation on the eve of a vital relegation decider

d) That if even all the above is true he wouldn't realise this would make him look a greedy, selfish villain for years to come

Do you people really believe all that? Stop and think about it. Does it seem very likely? Really?

We will have to agree to disagree

 

[oldblade]

Totally agree. I posted something similar before. Memories are short and selective sometimes. Warnock took 8 years to get us to the Prem. I don't know any manager in the club's history who has been given that kind of time to put the club back where it should be. The reason we got relegated from the Prem was not just because of Tevez - it was also because Warnock was so bloody negative with his tactics away from home. Time and time again, he changed the team and went all defensive because he was scared of what the opposition might do to us. Not only that, but he signed some right garbage that never even made it onto the pitch. It was odd to the point of being "suspicious" why he was so fond of signing strikers that never got to play for the team - don't you think? (Or maybe you don't think anything unusual about that? - I think we will learn more about this one day).

On top of that - he was a total embarrassment at times. With his excuses about match officials etc. And not only when we lost. I remember one game when we played away at Derby and the lads did fantastic to win 3-2 I think it was. And his press conference was all about the match officials and how they nearly ruined it. You'd have thought we'd lost.

I think we had some good times under him - and I rate his ability to motivate players - particularly his half-time team talks which tended to have an effect in the second half of games - but he knows how to fool people does that bloke and he's succeeded at it for years.

Warnock was appointed manager on 2nd December 1999. We clinched promotion to the Premier League on 15 April 2006 when Reading drew 1-1 at Leeds. I make that 6 years 4 months and 13 days. Not 8 years.

When he was appointed we were in the relegation zone and were playing like relegation certainties. Fewer than 9,000 turned up to our last home game before his arrival.

He undoubtedly saved us from relegation that season and to my way of thinking that is virtually as important as a promotion. Look how long it has just taken us to get back after the last relegation.

 

[Davalon]

There's stuff about Warnock I love and respect, and there's stuff that grinds my gears.

Anyone who doesn't think he made it too much about himself in the end is deluding themselves. I'm no Sean Bean fan but why do you think he kicked off like he did, and more importantly why do you think there was friction between NW and McCabe.

Another thing too. Whatever happens with Wilder, I can guarantee he won't smugly tell people a few years after he leaves that he doesn't give a shit about us being relegated.

 

[snootyfenooty]

Warnock was appointed manager on 2nd December 1999. We clinched promotion to the Premier League on 15 April 2006 when Reading drew 1-1 at Leeds. I make that 6 years 4 months and 13 days. Not 8 years.

The 8 year figure comes directly from the school of pigonomics. Six years and a bit = 8 years. There's been quite a smell of that on here recently with the anti-Warnock, anti-Brayford and Jagielka's "deliberate" handball being brought up at every available opportunity by a select group of "supporters".

 

[IMABLADE]

I remember in the Lemmy documentary it was revealed that Lemmy had been around so long that he “remembered a time before Rock n Roll”. Warnock’s not quite the Lemmy of football management, but he was certainly managing before the Premier League existed. He was managing Notts County in what is now the PL while it was still called Division One, back in 1992. When the Blades won promotion from Division 4 in 1981 he was managing Burton. No doubt he’s one of the old school, and it’s a credit to him that he’s still in there earning a wage when most of his counterparts from the 90s are now gone.

Presuming he’s still managing Cardiff, it could be his last visit to the Lane next season as a manager, so we should all give him plenty of respect and applause. He truly is a legend.

By the way, has the big nosed twat congratulated us on our promotion yet?

He had a interview where he interrupted the Huddersfield manager and which him good luck on beating the pigs, so that's good enough

 

[Blend-it-like-Harris]

Most over-rated manager this year - Rosler

 

[Dkc]

Never been a Blade on the scale that Wilder is but he seems to have fooled many over the years as to his Blade credentials.

I don't like the bloke though you can't knock his managerial record compared to many others who still land jobs in the top two leagues.

In his autobiography he talks about standing on the kop to watch United as a young man and following us away.

Call him a twat if you like, but you can't say he's not a Blade. That Wagner clip is further proof if any is needed

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

He`s a life long Blade who got us in to the Premier League. Like every one of us, he has his faults. Give the guy a break !

 

[wizadry]

It shouldn't be his last visit to Bramall Lane if he's a Blade, what's wrong with visiting as a fan? Or is that beyond him and his meism?

Wilder is head and shoulders above Warnock in every aspect in management and as a fan, he's shown this by visiting the Lane whilst managing other clubs and he will prove the management aspect when he manages in the Premier league and stays in it for more than one season. His brand of football and very good use of adaptability is way above Warnocks'.

Warnock was a very good motivator and at times a good wheeler and dealer in the market, let's face it, he had to be but he had ample time to achieve what he set out to do, a lot more than any Manager would get now. If people want to clap him then so be it but I won't be doing it, Wilder is the man.

Wilder won't take seven seasons to get us up, even though he will be starting at a lower point than when Warnock took over.

Warnock tried his best but for me he ultimately failed us, taking into account the size of this club along with how long he was here, especially when you take into account the clubs that have overtaken us in the last decade.

Wilder has got this club rocking again and it's all mainly his own doing, something he's not even hinted at mentioning. I hope he's given half the time Warnock got and i'm pretty sure we'll reap the rewards.

As you can see, Warnock is not my cup of tea.

I do like the little dig at the pigs though in the Huddersfield press conference.

 

[Fanny magnet]

It shouldn't be his last visit to Bramall Lane if he's a Blade, what's wrong with visiting as a fan? Or is that beyond him and his meism?

Wilder is head and shoulders above Warnock in every aspect in management and as a fan, he's shown this by visiting the Lane whilst managing other clubs and he will prove the management aspect when he manages in the Premier league and stays in it for more than one season. His brand of football and very good use of adaptability is way above Warnocks'.

Warnock was a very good motivator and at times a good wheeler and dealer in the market, let's face it, he had to be but he had ample time to achieve what he set out to do, a lot more than any Manager would get now. If people want to clap him then so be it but I won't be doing it, Wilder is the man.

Wilder won't take seven seasons to get us up, even though he will be starting at a lower point than when Warnock took over.

Warnock tried his best but for me he ultimately failed us, taking into account the size of this club along with how long he was here, especially when you take into account the clubs that have overtaken us in the last decade.

Wilder has got this club rocking again and it's all mainly his own doing, something he's not even hinted at mentioning. I hope he's given half the time Warnock got and i'm pretty sure we'll reap the rewards.

As you can see, Warnock is not my cup of tea.

I do like the little dig at the pigs though in the Huddersfield press conference.

So how long do you think it will take wilder to get us in the premier ?

 

[wizadry]

So how long do you think it will take wilder to get us in the premier ?

Three maybe Four seasons?

 

[Superblades]

Loved the guy when he was here however I was one of those who wanted him out after the Millwall game in '05, shows what I know

We looked a doomed team under Heath and crowds down to 10k if I remember right. Warnocks fist game was Portsmouth at home with a 1-0 win, Devlin running from his own half with the ball and scoring. A shame it ended the way it did with relegation from the PL and the fall out that happened afterwards.

 

[Tuns25]

In his autobiography he talks about standing on the kop to watch United as a young man and following us away.

Call him a twat if you like, but you can't say he's not a Blade. That Wagner clip is further proof if any is needed

Wouldn't say he wasn't a Blade but If the scale of Bladeness ran from 1 to 100, of course he went to games when he was younger but overall I'd put him in the teens. From what I know of Warnock and Wilder - and I've been fortunate enough to be pretty close to the club over the last couple of decades - you really can't compare on that score. It's just a fact Wilder is a bigger and to my mind proper Blade - as to comparing them as managers it's early days.

As for what Sir Neil says in interviews and books etc, I wouldn't take everything too literally. He knows how to play his audience and I guess credit to him for that. He could have had a great career in panto

 

[Fanny magnet]

Wouldn't say he wasn't a Blade but If the scale of Bladeness ran from 1 to 100, of course he went to games when he was younger but overall I'd put him in the teens. From what I know of Warnock and Wilder - and I've been fortunate enough to be pretty close to the club over the last couple of decades - you really can't compare on that score. It's just a fact Wilder is a bigger and to my mind proper Blade - as to comparing them as managers it's early days.

As for what Sir Neil says in interviews and books etc, I wouldn't take everything too literally. He knows how to play his audience and I guess credit to him for that. He could have had a great career in panto

So what ? Couldn't care less if he goes home and dresses up as Ron Atkinson ,I really couldnt give a shit,why is it important to you that Warnock be a big blade or a nice guy ?

 

[snootyfenooty]

It shouldn't be his last visit to Bramall Lane if he's a Blade, what's wrong with visiting as a fan? Or is that beyond him and his meism?

Well, seeing as he's got a full time job in Wales, lives in Plymouth and is pushing 70 he may have a bit of difficulty with the travelling for a start.

 

[wizadry]

Well, seeing as he's got a full time job in Wales, lives in Plymouth and is pushing 70 he may have a bit of difficulty with the travelling for a start.

There are Blades on this very forum who go to great lengths to watch the club they say they support no matter how old they are, Warnock to my knowledge hasn't been for ages even when he was out of work and he hasn't always been 60 odd years old. Anyway, he had no problem getting upto Huddersfield today, in fact he had to travel past Sheffield to get there.

Anyway, none of this really matters but I was just bringing it up for those that spunk all over him and his Bladeyness even though he has no interest in turning up to watch us play. Wilder on the other hand has watched us whilst managing other clubs.

 

[Scunny Blade]

fuck Warnock every team hes managed are the best fan like robbie keane with his 300 clubs he supported as a kid

 

[Basing Blade]

I love Neil. But he looks like a lesbian

He does look like a tranny out of his girly clothes these days. Is that why he stays away from home during the week. Those eyebrows looked plucked to me.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Warnock was appointed manager on 2nd December 1999. We clinched promotion to the Premier League on 15 April 2006 when Reading drew 1-1 at Leeds. I make that 6 years 4 months and 13 days. Not 8 years.

When he was appointed we were in the relegation zone and were playing like relegation certainties. Fewer than 9,000 turned up to our last home game before his arrival.

He undoubtedly saved us from relegation that season and to my way of thinking that is virtually as important as a promotion. Look how long it has just taken us to get back after the last relegation.

And he only got 6 years to get us promoted because of the amazing, unprecedented 02-03 season.

2.5 years to build his first great team on a shoestring. Then a further 2.5 years to build his second great team.

He earned the right to be given extra time by proving he could do the job. Six previous promotions helped in that respect also.

Unlike a Weir or a Heath with no track record and no hint of being a success with United either.

 

[oldblade]

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[oldblade]

It's another myth though isnt it ,he had targeted a point a game and was well on course to do so for most of the season
People talk about the villa match like all we had to was rock up with two up front and we would have pissed it they had carew agbonlahor and Ashley young up front and were on fire besides which I'm not sure we had two fit strikers

We were unfortunate with regard to the timing of the Villa game. They were celebrating some sort of anniversary (either winning the league or winning the European Cup - can't remember which). They were very much up for the match against us and to be honest I don't think many teams could have lived with them that day.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Flip side Nopig, he did wind refs and the top brass up the wrong way. They did us no favours.

I think we got a lot of decisions -particularly at home - that we didn't warrant in he championship. It was the combined force of the crowd and Warnock's antics that led to this, imo. Warnock's pressuring of referees may have informed our crowds actions, but there's no way of measuring this. All I can say is our crowd has given them a much easier time, in my experience, post Warnock. This only lasted until promotion to the premier league, although we did have a fine home record in the PL.. The whole of the footballing establishment , including referees, seemed to be against us then...

 

[Jonboy60]

Don't believe there was any conspiracy against us as such, but human nature as it is, it's hard for an individual/organisation not to baulk at what NW said and did at time.Bit like crying wolf really, moaned about most things weekly, then when he actually had a point, it was," warnocks off again".

 

[Silent Blade]

We were unfortunate with regard to the timing of the Villa game. They were celebrating some sort of anniversary (either winning the league or winning the European Cup - can't remember which). They were very much up for the match against us and to be honest I don't think many teams could have lived with them that day.

25th anniversary of winning the European Cup

 

[Harrisblade]

Don't believe there was any conspiracy against us as such, but human nature as it is, it's hard for an individual/organisation not to baulk at what NW said and did at time.Bit like crying wolf really, moaned about most things weekly, then when he actually had a point, it was," warnocks off again".

Nothing like Mourhino and Wenger then (or Ferguson!!)?