Top three most important players next season?

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Monty - if he plays we'll be one dimensional, out passed, out played and mid table at best. We need to get over ths "we can't play without him because he runs about a lot" attitude, be brave and try to play more football. Great attitude, dire player.

Ward - if he can stay fit then he should be playing every week, he offers more of a threat and gives us a better option than Henderson who as with Monty leaves us lacking in pace, guile and a Plan B

Evans - somebody must have seen something in him to warrant his fee. He either comes good quick or should be shipped out soon as.

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I actually agree with Big Mart. I don't think any United fan would argue that the best midfield partnership would be Williamson and Britton. However with Willo a crock then we look like partnering Britton with either Monty or Quinn. Perhaps Quinn could get his career back on track by playing along side a decent midfielder. I think it is worth a try. I'm not a Monty knocker and would have no qualm with him being in the team (provided a decent central midfielder plays next to him). However having 2 central midfielders who can play, rather than one and a water carrier would be preferable (imo).
 

I actually agree with Big Mart. I don't think any United fan would argue that the best midfield partnership would be Williamson and Britton. However with Willo a crock then we look like partnering Britton with either Monty or Quinn. Perhaps Quinn could get his career back on track by playing along side a decent midfielder. I think it is worth a try. I'm not a Monty knocker and would have no qualm with him being in the team (provided a decent central midfielder plays next to him). However having 2 central midfielders who can play, rather than one and a water carrier would be preferable (imo).

I'd argue that. I'd argue that any partnership which relies on one party who's never fit is hardly a basis for a solid partnership. I'd also argue that Quinn's inconsistency would drop him down the list. Plus he plays his better football down the left and should be played in his best position.

For me Monty and Britton could and should be considered the starting partnership for Cardiff Away...

Monty has a lot of criticism and a lot of us defend him, but a lot of the defence of Monty was always based around the fact that we were weak in central midfield creativity. I think Britton could do a decent job there, but I also hoped that Howard and Harper could do the same.
 
My three are not going to be obvious choices and I'll explain why..........

The likes of Morgs, Cresswell, Wardy, Simonsen, Monty, Nosworthy and Britton are all competent players at this level and we can be pretty sure that more often than not, they will go out and play to the best of their ability. I have no concerns about these players so I feel that they will be our stalwarts (most of them will be ever present); so they dont fall into our three most important IMO - for that reason.

My three are (in this order);

1. Ched Evans - He was anonymous in most games last season without ever being abysmal but we didnt sign him to be a steady head. We brought him to the club to be our centre forward and to score goals. This season he simply HAS to deliver. If he does then United will be a much better side for it. He is going to be very important and if he finds any sort of form he will keep Boggy and Hendo out of the side.

2. Stephen Quinn - I know this one will raise a few eyebrows but I was thinking about it the other day. Quinny's performances can range between anything from sublime to the ridiculous and I didnt feel last season was his best for us. He started to develop headless chicken syndrome, which is probably helped in no small part by the fact that the ball kept flying over his head. The fact is though, that I know he has it in him. When he first broke into the team he acquitted himself well in the PL and had good spells of form in the CCC for a young player. Now he is maturing a little more I am hoping he will add strings to his bow and become a better player. He could make a big difference if he develops this season.

3. Andy Taylor - I slated this lad for most of last season as he looked totally out of his depth. I dont think there is any argument to the contrary on that IMO. But with a fresh start supposedly in the offing for the team it is only fair to wipe the slate clean for this lad as well. The one thing I will give him is that he's a trier and if he can find some confidence from somewhere he might start to gather momentum. I feel its really important he steps his game up a gear this season as we dont have many other options in that position. A better Andy Taylor could give us that solidity at the back we once had.
 
Simmo - with the defence as it is Simmo will have a lot to deal with and if he dosen't preform we will have big problems.
Morgan - we will need him to bring together a new team and lead by example.
Britton- need some creativity and can't be another Howard or another Harper.
 
I'd argue that. I'd argue that any partnership which relies on one party who's never fit is hardly a basis for a solid partnership. I'd also argue that Quinn's inconsistency would drop him down the list. Plus he plays his better football down the left and should be played in his best position.

For me Monty and Britton could and should be considered the starting partnership for Cardiff Away...

Monty has a lot of criticism and a lot of us defend him, but a lot of the defence of Monty was always based around the fact that we were weak in central midfield creativity. I think Britton could do a decent job there, but I also hoped that Howard and Harper could do the same.

Allright Swiss! It's a while since we had a ding dong!? ;) The problem is that in the sentance after the one you highlighted in bold I stated but Williamson is a crock and can't be relied upon. So I'm thinking that we are thinking from the same page. However, are you seriously telling me that If Williamson was fully fit then you would leave him out of the team to play Monty along side Britton??
 
Allright Swiss! It's a while since we had a ding dong!? ;) The problem is that in the sentance after the one you highlighted in bold I stated but Williamson is a crock and can't be relied upon. So I'm thinking that we are thinking from the same page. However, are you seriously telling me that If Williamson was fully fit then you would leave him out of the team to play Monty along side Britton??

Now then Olle, its like were fixed on the opposite side of the fence again.

To be honest I haven't seen much of Britton myself, but what i've heard and read he's a ball player, like I think Willo is (when he's fit).

So, yes in theory, Monty would slot in alongside him better than a fully fit Willo. I'll happily be proven wrong, but most teams operate with a ball winner and a ball player in the middle... can you name many teams that have two central ball players? This is especially important if your wingers aren't too fond of helping out inside.
 
Now then Olle, its like were fixed on the opposite side of the fence again.

To be honest I haven't seen much of Britton myself, but what i've heard and read he's a ball player, like I think Willo is (when he's fit).

So, yes in theory, Monty would slot in alongside him better than a fully fit Willo. I'll happily be proven wrong, but most teams operate with a ball winner and a ball player in the middle... can you name many teams that have two central ball players? This is especially important if your wingers aren't too fond of helping out inside.

I would like to see Britton & willo played together in central mid with Monty behind them screening the back 4.
 
Now then Olle, its like were fixed on the opposite side of the fence again.

To be honest I haven't seen much of Britton myself, but what i've heard and read he's a ball player, like I think Willo is (when he's fit).

So, yes in theory, Monty would slot in alongside him better than a fully fit Willo. I'll happily be proven wrong, but most teams operate with a ball winner and a ball player in the middle... can you name many teams that have two central ball players? This is especially important if your wingers aren't too fond of helping out inside.

I think for the reasons you have highlighted, Blackwell will eventually switch to a 4-3-3 (come 4-5-1). The playing staff we have seems to be appropriate for it.
 
I would like to see Britton & willo played together in central mid with Monty behind them screening the back 4.

I think for the reasons you have highlighted, Blackwell will eventually switch to a 4-3-3 (come 4-5-1). The playing staff we have seems to be appropriate for it.

4-5-1
Just depends if we have the full backs - currently we don't

Willo will no doubt be Brittons back up used infrequently, until fully fit
 
1. Leon Britton - we've lacked an influential central midfielder for seasons now (since Michael Brown left tbf). If we can actually use Britton and not give him neck ache, he could push us on to the upper reaches.

2. Ched Evans - utterly sh*t last season with brief flashes of excellent ability. Norwich and Man Citeh supporters swear he can score lots of goals; so here's hoping it's true.

3. Jamie Ward - injury prone but farkin brilliant on his day. Needs to calm down to cut out the injuries, but if he can get a good run in the team, he can score and set up lots of goals.

Admittedly, there are slight bits of optimism in this post, but sod it, that's what pre-season is for.

Got to agree with this, we have been screaming out for creativity in the middle of the park since Brown left. In order for Britton to flourish we need others in the midfield to provide something as well though. When Brown had his best seaon we had Ndlovu on the wing which meant opposition couldn't concentrate on doubling up on one player to mark him out of the game as we had more than one threat. This is where we need Ward to have a good season to provide a threat from the wing.

The need for Ched to have a good seaon is obvious, he shows bags of potential, and could really be one of the top strikers in the division, toward the end of last season he looked almost disinterested, if he has a good start then i think he will prove a real threat.

On (too few i know) occassions last year we passed the ball really well and looked a decent side. It is essential that the midfield keep hold of the ball and pass on the floor to feet, is this too idealistic? Probably so but if the midfield play well, then the whole teams plays well, we create chances for the forwards and the defence takes care of itself. Christ I am almost feeling optimistic!

We do have quality players in the side, if we can get a couple more first team players in then I am confident we can make play offs. I really can't bear another season of seeing balls pumped aimlessley in the air as soon as we win it back, Blackwell is obviously the key to this and needs to step up.

Fans need to show some patience too, we don't have a divine right to promotion, it has to be won and we can help by making the lane as loud and hostile for away teams as possible.

There i go again with more optimism............................................. na na na na na naaaa na ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
 
Got to agree with this, we have been screaming out for creativity in the middle of the park since Brown left. In order for Britton to flourish we need others in the midfield to provide something as well though. When Brown had his best seaon we had Ndlovu on the wing which meant opposition couldn't concentrate on doubling up on one player to mark him out of the game as we had more than one threat. This is where we need Ward to have a good season to provide a threat from the wing.

The need for Ched to have a good seaon is obvious, he shows bags of potential, and could really be one of the top strikers in the division, toward the end of last season he looked almost disinterested, if he has a good start then i think he will prove a real threat.

On (too few i know) occassions last year we passed the ball really well and looked a decent side. It is essential that the midfield keep hold of the ball and pass on the floor to feet, is this too idealistic? Probably so but if the midfield play well, then the whole teams plays well, we create chances for the forwards and the defence takes care of itself. Christ I am almost feeling optimistic!

We do have quality players in the side, if we can get a couple more first team players in then I am confident we can make play offs. I really can't bear another season of seeing balls pumped aimlessley in the air as soon as we win it back, Blackwell is obviously the key to this and needs to step up.

Fans need to show some patience too, we don't have a divine right to promotion, it has to be won and we can help by making the lane as loud and hostile for away teams as possible.

There i go again with more optimism............................................. na na na na na naaaa na ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

I watched most of Ched Evans performances last season and I can see why some people say hes "crap", however, I believe he was just frustrated. He is a good player but he's a footballer and he's no use at all with back to goal and the ball 8 feet in the air with snow on it !!!

IF wa change our style and play decent football (I'm not asking for Brazil/Arsenal/Barcelona style total football, just something entertaining and worth watching) then I really think Ched will come good and score goals at this level. Unfortunately, with Cheap as Chips in charge, there is only a remote and rare possibility of this happening.

With that in mind, it is not the players as such who are the most important this season, because we have quite a few players who are "capable" of doing well in this division, if allowed to do so.

Therefore I would suggest the most important performer this season is Hoofy. If he continues as he did for the majority of last season, we will have a miserable year, full of frustration, no entertainment, and underperform dreadfully. We will all continue to argue and complain on here but whilst the Board need a YES man, unfortunately, we are stuck with him.

I'm that the only injury we get this year is to Blackwell and that it keeps him OFF the sidelines for the whole season.

UTB
 
I watched most of Ched Evans performances last season and I can see why some people say hes "crap", however, I believe he was just frustrated. He is a good player but he's a footballer and he's no use at all with back to goal and the ball 8 feet in the air with snow on it !!!

Change the name to Billy Sharp, or Jamie Ward and you've got the same issue. The problem we have is that the bloke in charge can't or won't see it, he'd rather go with the big battering ram who constantly gives free kicks away because he seems to have an affinity with that kind of "football".

Can't see it changing too much with him at the helm but there ya go, that's another argument that's been done to death.

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