Tippy tappy fannying about in the final 3rd.

[oldblade]

No it isn’t! We were promoted twice and relegated twice (and counting) under Diplodocus Dave. Tufty has taken us from league one obscurity to the auto places in the Championship.

The neo-hoofers pretend that reality ain’t so. They see things as they would like them to be, not how they are. They’re doing it again with the gerritintbox drivel. We’ll be crossing from the half-way line next.

Sometimes, I despair.

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Sorry, I'm not with you here.

Wilder has achieved more because he has taken us to the automatic places in the division below where we spent 4 consecutive seasons under Bassett. Longer than under anyone else since Harris. Interesting perspective.

We obviously didn't spend 4 seasons at a higher level than we are now? Blimey. The beer must have been a lot stronger back then. Could have sworn we did.

Carry on with the despair. I'll just be happy that Bassett achieved that.

And if Wilder achieves it I'll be happy as well.

You see, the difference between you and me is that I can celebrate success when it comes the way of Sheffield United, regardless of who is the manager and whether or not his way of playing coincides with my own preferences.

 

[Pinchy]

Sorry, I'm not with you here.

Wilder has achieved more because he has taken us to the automatic places in the division below where we spent 4 consecutive seasons under Bassett. Longer than under anyone else since Harris. Interesting perspective.

We obviously didn't spend 4 seasons at a higher level than we are now? Blimey. The beer must have been a lot stronger back then. Could have sworn we did.

Carry on with the despair. I'll just be happy that Bassett achieved that.

And if Wilder achieves it I'll be happy as well.

You see, the difference between you and me is that I can celebrate success when it comes the way of Sheffield United, regardless of who is the manager and whether or not his way of playing coincides with my own preferences.

You have your standards; I have mine. I’m content.

 

[oldblade]

You have your standards; I have mine. I’m content.

No answer. As usual.

 

[Pinchy]

No answer. As usual.

There wasn’t a question, just one-sided drivel about Bassett. Completely overlooking his failures and horrible anti-football.

Vinnie Jones. Wally Downes. Wally Fucking Downes.

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

Do I?

Pardon me for assuming that if you reply to one of my posts you might have some sort of interest in what we are debating and what other people's views are.

Obviously not. This forum and everyone contributing to it are quite clearly just vehicles for you to show your feeling superiority and spout your contempt at any differing views.

I wouldn't waste your time. Pinchy is a legend in is own living room.

 

[Jon Bon II]

OP's correct. Too much fannying about at the side. 3, sometimes 4 players on the wing playing little triangles waiting for our 2 players in the box to get heavily outnumbered by opposition defenders.

If you watch that well known hoofball team, Man City, you'll see that they do the opposite - 2 players out wide and whip it in sharpish for any one of 4 or 5 attackers in the box. HOOOOOOOF! HOOOO-OOOOOOOF! I tell you...

 

[oldblade]

There wasn’t a question, just one-sided drivel about Bassett. Completely overlooking his failures and horrible anti-football.

Vinnie Jones. Wally Downes. Wally Fucking Downes.

One sided? So we didn't get more success under him than any other manager since John Harris?

I feel very, very sorry for you that you cannot even acknowledge historical facts, such is your hatred for one of our better managers in recent years.

Do you even remember what it was like at that time? How improbable it was that we would get back to the first division? Obviously not.

Sad to say, I think you have shown your true colours again tonight.

You quite obviously have some sort of irrational hatred of Dave Bassett and find it impossible to recognise anything he achieved in very difficult circumstances.

Very, very sad.

 

[oldblade]

I wouldn't waste your time. Pinchy is a legend in is own living room.

Unfortunately modern technology allows him to share that legendary status with the rest of the world!

 

[Dkc]

Bassett didn't take over until January 21 in his first season and couldn't prevent relegation. After that it was two promotions and a horribly unlucky (perhaps dodgy) relegation from the PL. Best manager in my lifetime, achievement-wise, by a mile. Second is Warnock. If Wilder gets us up and keeps us there he'll have surpassed Warnock. He'd need to establish us as PL regulars to surpass "DInosaur Dave"

 

[Deleted member 1486]

You have your standards; I have mine. I’m content.

Your name fits. Whenever I read anything you say I have to keep pinching myself that I'm reading a S2 forum and not an S6 forum.

Not being funny, and I appreciate you for being a blade, but you'd fit right in over there.

 

[Tom Bott]

Good job we are ahead of Norwich on goal difference then!

Goal difference must be equal to an extra point then, otherwise Norwich would be above us on alphabetical order.

 

[South Bucks]

Thing is, yesterday could easily have been a nil nil, we had very few decent efforts on goal.
Footy is a percentage game, if you don't get the ball in and create many chances you don't score many goals, simple.
The top two to go up are usually those who are more offensive than the rest of the pack, you have to stand out to go up.

 

[Chali 2na]

Lots of it on show again today.
Could have put 5 past them if we'd had a little more urgency. They were shart!
Goal difference does make a difference!

I thought you'd given up on United now we've signed Madine?

 

[Ballinpigpubs13]

Only thing that gets me at the minute is how we overdo things when we have great chances to cross from deep down the wings.
We will pass it around a few times, maybe get surrounded so we then pass it all the way across to the other side of the pitch and do the same.
JUST GET IT IN THE FUCKING BOX

 

[BigBed]

That was a game I thought Madine would've done well in, really thought he'd come on for Sharp and was suprised Clarke was the one chosen thought there defence were crying out for a physical forward in the last 15mins, I honestly think we would've scored again.
3 points, into second, can we stay there now?, best chance we've had for many a year to get to the prem. UTB.

 

[Dkc]

, best chance we've had for many a year to get to the prem. UTB.

Since the PO Final under Blackwell - nine years ago?

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

As I’ve said before it’s not about long balls or short balls it’s about the right ball at the right time. Sometimes (sorry Pinchy) long balls and quick crosses are the right thing to do at other times slow deliberate passing is the right thing. Even Barcelona the classic passy passy team over the years weren't averse to the odd long ball and early cross.

As always the proof of the pudding is results. If we’re getting results then we’re getting the balance right if we’re not we have to look at different options

 

[Pinchy]

Only thing that gets me at the minute is how we overdo things when we have great chances to cross from deep down the wings.
We will pass it around a few times, maybe get surrounded so we then pass it all the way across to the other side of the pitch and do the same.
JUST GET IT IN THE FUCKING BOX

Absolutely. Who needs passing? Forget the sublime football that's resurrected our club. Let’s have Hendo performing a Lurch-like lumber to the half-way line before launching it in. One hoof and it’s in there. Happy days are here again in S2.

“Noise and Nonsense” says Tufty (one of our own).

 

[georgebernardshaw]

I can’t believe that we’re second.....

 

[BLADE OF GRASS]

Absolutely. Who needs passing? Forget the sublime football that's resurrected our club. Let’s have Hendo performing a Lurch-like lumber to the half-way line before launching it in. One hoof and it’s in there. Happy days are here again in S2.

“Noise and Nonsense” says Tufty (one of our own).

So by your logic the long ball in for Billys second against Blackburn was hoof and the pass from Norwood against the pigs was hoof too , would have been much better playing another 20 passes instead , you come across a right cock end

 

[Pinchy]

So by your logic the long ball in for Billys second against Blackburn was hoof and the pass from Norwood against the pigs was hoof too , would have been much better playing another 20 passes instead , you come across a right cock end

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

To be fair to QPR they defended really well and limited us, they stopped O’Connell overlapping really well the defensive CM just moved across....the disadvantage for them was this tactic freed up Norwood more.

Their tactic was clear, soak up pressure, frustrate the crowd and if we can nick one then great.

I wouldn’t be frustrated by our lack of chances yesterday, not many teams will break them down at all.

 

[The Tea Lady]

Why Is it hoofing the ball if you put a cross in early , why not put a cross in when you have the opportunity rather then waiting and then trying to fashion another chance even though you had the chance seconds earlier , defenders have got back in the box by this time and managed to set them selves for what's coming . I don't scream and shout obcenitys when the balls not whipped in but I'd be lying if I said it didn't wind me up . Why work the ball down line constantly if your going to fanny about once you get down there , don't get me wrong we're doing really well at the minute but there's nothing wrong wanting even better .

Credit to someone on Twitter who pointed out most of this. Can't find the original though.

Watch the goal - and look at the movement.

Norwood has a chance to cross, he doesn't see anything good enough on so he decides against it and plays it into Enda instead, and, amongst other things, one of their defenders is drawn towards the ball, and another, who was covering Norwood, follows the ball into the box. Norwood now has space - this is important later.

Enda carries the ball deeper into the box, but, again, there's nothing on, so plays the ball back out of the box to George.

At that point Billy and McGoldrick start to swap places.

Baldock, instead of crossing it (our third chance in 7 or 8 seconds at a speculative ball in), lays it back to Norwood who is now in plenty of space, partly due to the very fact he didn't cross it earlier.

Now he crosses it in first time. McGoldrick is in motion. Header. Goal.

When we play like that it's about quality not quantity.

Cutting edge precision - it's what made the city famous.

 

[dc_blade]

After all this time, and all of the success we've had, after every game where don't score 3+ goals Wilder's footballing philosophy still needs to be explained and defended to some of our own fans.

 

[Brian Deane]

Credit to someone on Twitter who pointed out most of this. Can't find the original though.

Watch the goal - and look at the movement.

Norwood has a chance to cross, he doesn't see anything good enough on so he decides against it and plays it into Enda instead, and, amongst other things, one of their defenders is drawn towards the ball, and another, who was covering Norwood, follows the ball into the box. Norwood now has space - this is important later.

Enda carries the ball deeper into the box, but, again, there's nothing on, so plays the ball back out of the box to George.

At that point Billy and McGoldrick start to swap places.

Baldock, instead of crossing it (our third chance in 7 or 8 seconds at a speculative ball in), lays it back to Norwood who is now in plenty of space, partly due to the very fact he didn't cross it earlier.

Now he crosses it in first time. McGoldrick is in motion. Header. Goal.

When we play like that it's about quality not quantity.

Cutting edge precision - it's what made the city famous.

I might print this off and enlarge it. Stick it to the rear of jacket so if the same NOB turns up he might understand so of our style of play.....and breathe........

 

[Large Mendonca]

That was a game I thought Madine would've done well in, really thought he'd come on for Sharp and was suprised Clarke was the one chosen thought there defence were crying out for a physical forward in the last 15mins, I honestly think we would've scored again.
3 points, into second, can we stay there now?, best chance we've had for many a year to get to the prem. UTB.

I definitely would have given Madine the opportunity - Clarke didn't deserve the chance after his "effort and application" in the Barnet fiasco

 

[oaklandrdblade]

I definitely would have given Madine the opportunity - Clarke didn't deserve the chance after his "effort and application" in the Barnet fiasco

Think Clarke got the nod as he 'knows' what was expected of him, he would know exactly what his role was in terms of defending corners and free kicks

 

[Silent Blade]

The Bassett hoofers provided some of the best footballing moments in living memory for me. Hodges scored a goal v Luton that ended a 20+ passing move, not bad for long ball merchants. Pretty sure it was goal of the month on MOTD

4 passes but lovely goal

From 54 mins 55 secs

 

[The Fox]

i don't think anyone is in doubt that with 4 league wins on the bounce , we are unfair to critique the style of play etc . However it's not quite so binary as ...
get in in quick , I love dave Bassett v wilder and knill are gods and anything said is herecy

We play great stuff , the results stand for themselves , however it's so f*cking frustrating seeing us get in great crossing opportunities , only not to get the ball in the box on so many occasions . Yesterday we got away with it .. we had 2 attempts on goal , which is scant return on being in so many great positions .
I'm not a tactical know it all by any means , it's understandable that fans feel frustrated at the "fancying about" though .. and our one goal came from getting the ball in early as tends to be the case .

 

[Pinchy]

i don't think anyone is in doubt that with 4 league wins on the bounce , we are unfair to critique the style of play etc . However it's not quite so binary as ...
get in in quick , I love dave Bassett v wilder and knill are gods and anything said is herecy

We play great stuff , the results stand for themselves , however it's so f*cking frustrating seeing us get in great crossing opportunities , only not to get the ball in the box on so many occasions . Yesterday we got away with it .. we had 2 attempts on goal , which is scant return on being in so many great positions .
I'm not a tactical know it all by any means , it's understandable that fans feel frustrated at the "fancying about" though .. and our one goal came from getting the ball in early as tends to be the case .

It didn’t. That’s precisely the point. Neither did Fleck’s cross against Blackburn. It’s a fallacy that the optimum moment to cross is at the first opportunity. You have to be out there and see the angles and the situation ahead of you to make the assessment. If it where as simple as gerritinearly why not do it every time. Why not launch it from the half-way line?

Only in S2 would Football of the standard we are lucky enough to be watching be described as ‘fancying about’. Second in the league, playing our best football in decades and people are ‘frustrated’? No wonder I despair...