Third best defence, second worst attack....

[JasonEllis]

...or something along those lines looking at the table.

There is the problem it seems to me.

I would say we need at least a couple of strikers (one an absolute cracker). Also competition for Flynn (who seems off the boil of late).

What do we think? (This is my first thread so please play nice )

 

[blade too long]

my , thats come as a shock

 

[Selly]

Considering we were second bottom on February the third, having the third best defence is a fucking miracle...

... Get s couple of strikers in the summer and we have every right to expect a very good season next year...

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

...or something along those lines looking at the table.

There is the problem it seems to me.

I would say we need at least a couple of strikers (one an absolute cracker). Also competition for Flynn (who seems off the boil of late).

What do we think? (This is my first thread so please play nice )

Joint second best defence actually

and joint second worst attack

Consistent!

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

...or something along those lines looking at the table.

There is the problem it seems to me.

I would say we need at least a couple of strikers (one an absolute cracker). Also competition for Flynn (who seems off the boil of late).

What do we think? (This is my first thread so please play nice )

Third best defense, second worst attack gets you to 7/8th from a poor starting position so all the talk about 2/3 strikers may not be necessary if we get one good one; assumes he stays fit?

Welcome on board.

 

[blade too long]

if any one can list me say 15 to 20 20 goal a season strikers available be interested in seeing it

finding such a beast is like trying to find a Wednesday fan in Mensa, purely mythical

 

[WestEd]

Going about 8 games without conceding didn't hurt the defensive side of this equation. Going 43 games without a proper striker didn't help the offensive side.

 

[Blade56]

...or something along those lines looking at the table.

There is the problem it seems to me.

I would say we need at least a couple of strikers (one an absolute cracker). Also competition for Flynn (who seems off the boil of late).

What do we think? (This is my first thread so please play nice )

Think it's a bit harsh on Flynn, he's never been seen in a striking role. He has gone from a stuttering winger (to quick to backtrack) into an decent midfielder prepared to run at and around a defence. NC has given him his confidence and in the closed season might just turn him into a cracking right side winger / midfielder good for 5 goals per season which is adiquate for that position!

 

[yuley82]

As well as a striker I think we need to be more creative as well, you can't score goals if the opportunity to do so isn't there.

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

...or something along those lines looking at the table.

There is the problem it seems to me.

I would say we need at least a couple of strikers (one an absolute cracker). Also competition for Flynn (who seems off the boil of late).

What do we think? (This is my first thread so please play nice )

Third or second best defence, factor out the Weir debacle and it's probably best defence in the divison... and there's still fans wanting Collins replaced!!!

As for Flynny generally done well under Clough but I'd still have Brandy down as the better winger of the two.

 

[JasonEllis]

Think it's a bit harsh on Flynn, he's never been seen in a striking role. He has gone from a stuttering winger (to quick to backtrack) into an decent midfielder prepared to run at and around a defence. NC has given him his confidence and in the closed season might just turn him into a cracking right side winger / midfielder good for 5 goals per season which is adiquate for that position!

I agree goal scoring wise. He just seems to have dropped deeper of late and a bit of the old tendency to cut back and not run at his man come back into his game. I like him and hope he continues to improve as Murphy has.

 

[Digger]

I remember Warnock signing Windass and Kabba at the same time and giving them debuts at Bradford when they both scored and we won 5-0.
We then had 6 strikers on the books!
For me its get rid of P & P because they do not score enough and if Miller is back to full fitness add two more proven scorers at this level (easier said than done I know).

 

[wizadry]

Third or second best defence, factor out the Weir debacle and it's probably best defence in the divison... and there's still fans wanting Collins replaced!!!

As for Flynny generally done well under Clough but I'd still have Brandy down as the better winger of the two.

Couldnt agree more with that,it was collins who was getting maguire out of the shit the first half of the season, people seem to just abruptly ignore his performances
As for brandy its all down to his attitude as we all know ,no doubting his ability and he could also have a cameo down the middle bit like murphy has been doing

 

[Bladesman]

All it means is we need some strikers.

 

[JOEYDEE]

Remeber our Nige saying in the Jan window that if we couldn't find any one better than we'd already got,then we'd manage without.
And we certainly have !
But obviously need a couple,maybe three strikers in the summer,cos surely Porter n Paynter wont be here.thankfully,and then we can play scougs,and baxter (especially) in their best positions .
Brandy wont be coming back,Ironside's as good as his tv namesake up front,mebbee miller,might be kept who knows,
but I am confident that next season ,we WILL win the league !
There !I've said it !

 

[Woodwardfan]

if any one can list me say 15 to 20 20 goal a season strikers available be interested in seeing it

finding such a beast is like trying to find a Wednesday fan in Mensa, purely mythical

Maybe Taylor but we'll likely never know.

Moving away Taylor and Brandy were big decisions as they both have goals in them but presumably Nigel had his reasons. Maybe it helped balance the books as well because the club backed him with all the loan signings. He didn't sign a striker though and even let Miller go which I didn't understand.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Maybe Taylor but we'll likely never know.

Moving away Taylor and Brandy were big decisions as they both have goals in them but presumably Nigel had his reasons. Maybe it helped balance the books as well because the club backed him with all the loan signings. He didn't sign a striker though and even let Miller go which I didn't understand.

Thought Miller going out was Millers own choice as he needed games and sitting on our bench with a cameo role wasn't helping his fitness?

 

[Woodwardfan]

Thought Miller going out was Millers own choice as he needed games and sitting on our bench with a cameo role wasn't helping his fitness?

Not sure that means he should go does it? We needed him for the league run in and for Wembley. He has played a number of half games for Shrewsbury either being subbed or as sub. He has scored two goals there. Clearly NC doesn't rate him above Porter and Paynter and said he was 5th choice striker including Baxter and Murphy. We had nobody else, plus so many "running on empty". No big deal, NC would not have played him anyway.

The lad should consider a different career if he ranks behind Porter and Paynter though!!!

 

[Rossb123]

...or something along those lines looking at the table.

There is the problem it seems to me.

I would say we need at least a couple of strikers (one an absolute cracker). Also competition for Flynn (who seems off the boil of late).

What do we think? (This is my first thread so please play nice )

I agree completely with your post, I would like to see us bring in a young exciting striker alongside somebody that has scored goals at this level and above.

Flynn definitely needs competition, I feel his performances improved when he was trying to prove himself to earn that new contract. I would like to think Brandy would be able to give him that competition (cheap option) but I think we have seen the last of Brandy in a United Shirt.

 

[sitwell]

A good managers first job in a club is to make sure you have a strong defence and then build from that. Clough is ahead of his remit ,the future is in great hands if we can be patient.

 

[Muttley]

2 strikers definitely needed with a full pre season behind them. No point in hanging on for Mr Evans as our main forward. By all means give him a chance but don't rely on him.
For me, and probably most others, securing Brayford, Maguire and Coady along with AT LEAST 1 new goalscorer should be the priority. For once in my life I'm not feeling pessimistic and believe we will fly with these permanent additions.

 

[Gavlar]

we signed Lyle Taylor last yr, and waited on the return of Miller to score our goals, neither did and Baxter and Porter havent really either. Paynter? pah!

I reckon we should look at resigning Nick Blackman as another option, but we have to bust a gut to get a decent couple of strikers in the summer.

 

[longinthe toothblade]

Don't know who you are Jason [???] but we must be joined at the hip. I made these EXACT same points via a text to friends on the 21st April. It's truly uncanny, same stats, same conclusion and same remedy. Only difference is apart fro the 'cracking striker', I suggested we will need another good striker as back up [we can't fall back or rely on Porter if we are going to really compete]. Also said we need a replacement or at least some strong competition for Flynn. He's done well enough in the second half of the season but having peaked around the Villa game he's deffy on the slide again.Strikers are the absolute priority though - it's a simple fact that you can't win games unless you score and our record this year as been chronic.

 

[longinthe toothblade]

2 strikers definitely needed with a full pre season behind them. No point in hanging on for Mr Evans as our main forward. By all means give him a chance but don't rely on him.
For me, and probably most others, securing Brayford, Maguire and Coady along with AT LEAST 1 new goalscorer should be the priority. For once in my life I'm not feeling pessimistic and believe we will fly with these permanent additions.

Agreed. Got to secure this lot first but as we are building we need to find goals.

 

[Pittsburg Blade]

As well as a striker I think we need to be more creative as well, you can't score goals if the opportunity to do so isn't there.

Look at how Hull took their chances, everything was dispatched, that's the difference. We have Porter (bless his heart) missing 80% of his opportunities.

 

[grafikhaus]

if any one can list me say 15 to 20 20 goal a season strikers available be interested in seeing it

finding such a beast is like trying to find a Wednesday fan in Mensa, purely mythical

Can't agree, btl. (Though naming one will inevitably lead to the response 'He wouldn't come/we can't afford him*/wouldn't come down to the First Division etc. )

Billy Sharp (career becalmed and desperate for a career break), Callum Wilson (Coventry potless, 22 gls. in 46 apps.) , Chuks Aneke (on loan at Crewe, 14 gls. in 36 apps.).

Then, there are players who - although probably out of our range (or are they?) - Kieran Agard currently at Rotherham - 27 gls. in 74. His move to Rotherham almost fell through until the player lowered his wage demands*. And, for now, Britt Assombalonga at Posh - 23 gls. in 40 apps.

The last two may well still be in Div. One next season. Funny how we panic at the first sign of (ITK) speculation but casually dismiss any thoughts of the reverse happening, i.e. we use our size and increasing marketability to tempt players here.

 

[wizadry]

What does anyone think of ex pig ryan lowe,hes getting on a bit but hes scored 19 goals in 42 games this season in a crap side ,just for 1 season ,proven at this level ,dont think you can go far wrong,if tranmere go down aswell ,he could help get us out of this mess of a division,only a thought mind

 

[Kenilworth]

What does anyone think of ex pig ryan lowe

Not much

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Oldham's goal tonight dropped us down to 5th.

We moved up a place in the GF column though.

 

[UnitedBlade]

Conceded 6 goals in last 18 League games - mean.

Since the catastrophe that was Crewe away - that must have been some "heart to heart" Cloughie had with the players after that.