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Pedro Verde said:
After they won the PL
Did we go down hadnt noticed that and its not really relevant to your model
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Before they won the PL they didn't go down.

If you go down, it means your model kinda failed.
 
CrookesBlade said:
Weren’t Bournemouth supposed to be “the model” until they went to shit?

Also who are we supposed to get mad at if a billionaire doesn’t want to buy the club?

For every Leicester there are 10 other club takeovers that haven’t gone well. The fans of most of the Prem and all the Championship clubs will be sat at home feeling envious. That’s football.
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But all we need to do is to “think outside the box”, like them?
 
Better than 'Think Loughborough' that's for sure
 
Flatulent_Bob said:
So you’ve not then. Ah well you might be right, we need to look at how they did it.
Can you look into how we go into Administration to write off all our debts without any punishment and have a brand new stadium built with around 50% additional capacity (about 47,500 would be compatible for us)?
At which point we can look for a new billionaire owner to pick us up cheap. That would seem to be the start.
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This
Conveniently constantly ignored by o/p
 
If there was a foolproof model, everyone would have adopted it,, Brentford haven't made a secret how they operate, neither have Watford, can't think of one club that's tried to duplicate it, you could argue both are easier to follow because they are not reliant on an exceptional manager like Clough, Fergus etc
 
Sheffsteel said:
When ever a team does well...it’s always “think xxxxx”

It wasn’t only last year many were saying “think Sheff Utd” and “why don’t we follow their model”.
Even our own fans were saying Wilder is the Messiah...we should use the same system at all age groups, lay the foundations and plan for the future“

We’ve laid some foundations to build on....
but most fans are saying “rip up the foundations built by Wilder and start afresh”.

It just shows how fickle most football fans are...when theres success the model is brilliant.
One year of struggle and all of a sudden the same model is terrible ann needs ripping up.
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Yes but we’ve seen those same foundations our whole system was built on fail so terribly, before our very eyes.
 
CarlMcBlade said:
Yes but we’ve seen those same foundations our whole system was built on fail so terribly, before our very eyes.
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Which tells us that the things that really bring about success are not about the top level, easily identifiable things that clubs are doing.

Yet still more shallow than that, people come out with shite like “start thinking outside the box”! 😂
 
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The only model is the Crewe model.
 
Choose a life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television. Choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers... Choose DSY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit crushing game shows, stucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away in the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself, choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that?
 



Sheffsteel said:
When ever a team does well...it’s always “think xxxxx”

It wasn’t only last year many were saying “think Sheff Utd” and “why don’t we follow their model”.
Even our own fans were saying Wilder is the Messiah...we should use the same system at all age groups, lay the foundations and plan for the future“

We’ve laid some foundations to build on....
but most fans are saying “rip up the foundations built by Wilder and start afresh”.

It just shows how fickle most football fans are...when theres success the model is brilliant.
One year of struggle and all of a sudden the same model is terrible ann needs ripping up.
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There isn't any foundations though, that's the problem. Every so often (every 15 years or so) we have a team that plays well together, usually driven by a "fan" manager that understands the shyte that he'll be given to work with, and for a time accepts it.

The said "fan" then sets about bringing players in who are delighted to be here because they're not all that good really, but they work their bollocks off for a while and we do ok for a bit.
Then it all comes crumbling down because the players can't keep it up, and because there are no foundations in place, the young players aren't deemed good enough and our scouting in Europe or further afield is non existent.

We never achieve major player sales because, well, we never have anybody that good, and every time we try spend more than fourpence ha'penny on a player, it is always on someone who somehow never manages to fit in.

I'm expecting Billy Sharp to give us our next period of "success" in another 15 years after he's learned the managerial ropes at Cheltenham, Cambridge and Bury
 
JJBlade said:
There isn't any foundations though, that's the problem. Every so often (every 15 years or so) we have a team that plays well together, usually driven by a "fan" manager that understands the shyte that he'll be given to work with, and for a time accepts it.

The said "fan" then sets about bringing players in who are delighted to be here because they're not all that good really, but they work their bollocks off for a while and we do ok for a bit.
Then it all comes crumbling down because the players can't keep it up, and because there are no foundations in place, the young players aren't deemed good enough and our scouting in Europe or further afield is non existent.

We never achieve major player sales because, well, we never have anybody that good, and every time we try spend more than fourpence ha'penny on a player, it is always on someone who somehow never manages to fit in.

I'm expecting Billy Sharp to give us our next period of "success" in another 15 years after he's learned the managerial ropes at Cheltenham, Cambridge and Bury
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I thought it was just me that realised we made it to the Premier League by luck.
We got out of division one with a good bit of wheeling and dealing and a manager who got the players already there to finally step up and show their A game :fantastic season. First season In the Championship we consolidated with a bit of the same model and a bit of tinkering without spunken money,a philosophy to keep us there nothing more.
People and pundits plus Wendy fans hoped it was a fluke and the old second season syndrome would kick in but Wilder kept the Blades machine rolling :again without spunken to much cash . Everything that season went right,loan signings worked, very few injuries and the “ we’re all in this together” his philosophy peaked,every turn of the cards turned a trump we got lucky,again what a season,we made the promised land and players and fans we jubilant .
For me this is where it started to go a tad off the rails, could Wilder wheel and deal and adapt to something he,the players,fans and the board had never been, I think we have the answer?. Nothing changed in a huge way a few uninspired signings (Sander Berge)a couple of loans but the Wilder secret of “ over lapping centre half’s” and hard work showed promise a bit of surprise to the big boys of the Premiership but for me a few of the squad where showing their age and unfortunately lack of skill but the Wilder tactics pulled us through to our greatest season, and in a flash the season was behind us without Wilders greatest assets in attendance US the fans.
Start of this season was very poor for whatever reason,not too much happening on the signings front especially given the current squad was looking aged and lacking quality,everything seemed to be focused on one signing :a young lad from Liverpool and little else apart from again a few aging loan signings. To me it looked and smelled of someone’s luck running out. Don’t want to recap this season too disappointing, so UTB. Looking forward to big changes? .🤞
 
Alf Tuppers Shorts said:
I thought it was just me that realised we made it to the Premier League by luck.
We got out of division one with a good bit of wheeling and dealing and a manager who got the players already there to finally step up and show their A game :fantastic season. First season In the Championship we consolidated with a bit of the same model and a bit of tinkering without spunken money,a philosophy to keep us there nothing more.
People and pundits plus Wendy fans hoped it was a fluke and the old second season syndrome would kick in but Wilder kept the Blades machine rolling :again without spunken to much cash . Everything that season went right,loan signings worked, very few injuries and the “ we’re all in this together” his philosophy peaked,every turn of the cards turned a trump we got lucky,again what a season,we made the promised land and players and fans we jubilant .
For me this is where it started to go a tad off the rails, could Wilder wheel and deal and adapt to something he,the players,fans and the board had never been, I think we have the answer?. Nothing changed in a huge way a few uninspired signings (Sander Berge)a couple of loans but the Wilder secret of “ over lapping centre half’s” and hard work showed promise a bit of surprise to the big boys of the Premiership but for me a few of the squad where showing their age and unfortunately lack of skill but the Wilder tactics pulled us through to our greatest season, and in a flash the season was behind us without Wilders greatest assets in attendance US the fans.
Start of this season was very poor for whatever reason,not too much happening on the signings front especially given the current squad was looking aged and lacking quality,everything seemed to be focused on one signing :a young lad from Liverpool and little else apart from again a few aging loan signings. To me it looked and smelled of someone’s luck running out. Don’t want to recap this season too disappointing, so UTB. Looking forward to big changes? .🤞
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The difference pre and post lockdown was huge. We were a team with all the momentum, overflowing with confidence and fearless. As soon as the momentum stopped, gradually everything else did. One player at a time.
 
robbiez666 said:
The difference pre and post lockdown was huge. We were a team with all the momentum, overflowing with confidence and fearless. As soon as the momentum stopped, gradually everything else did. One player at a time.
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Sorry,but for me that’s where Chris Wilder went wrong,keeping his tried a trusted players for far too long. We still have too many from 4/5 years ago and some from the old division one days. We need them to be replaced and stop looking through rose tinted glasses. We seem to have some up and coming youth players we can slowly integrate into the squad.
We could be on the brink of something special again? or on the slide back to the old days. We are in the hands of the board ,it’s time for them to shine, or not. Let’s hope they’re willing to learn from the last couple of seasons and have a proper professional plan in place.
I agree with everything you wrote until your last sentence,clean the decks is the way for me. Let’s just hope what happens in the next months is going to be inspiring and exciting for us all. Let’s have our own model and not copy someone else’s, forget Leicester or Brentford let’s have a Blades model for once. UTB.
 
Withington Blade said:
Having a billionaire owner definitely helps but they do seem to be a very well run club with an exceptional scouting network. Consistently get their recruitment right and probably turn in a transfer surplus overall when you consider the sales they have made over the past 5 years or so.
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All clubs, even the elite ones, have been reliant on transfer profits for some time. That's a bubble that's going to burst eventually, probably hastened by events of the last 15 months.

As for well-run, Swiss Ramble produced this graphic, and you can see that from profit they've slid heavily into loss - which has itself been subsidised by their transfer successess. As a result, their debt has climbed. A lot of people like to use EBITDA as the profit measure but if you're going to buy players you've got to pay for them.

In 2019-20 Leicester's wage bill was £157m, which was higher than the club's total turnover.

Not only that, the turnover included shirt and stadium sponsorship by King Power (I term this "The Chansiri Model") which represented over half their total Commercial Income, so even the turnover is fake as it's not all coming from outside sources.

Well done Leicester on two major honours in a short time, which is more than the fans of middling provincial clubs can ever hope for (so I hope they appreciate it) but there's nothing to learn from this.

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Think Football, think beer, think Sunday dinner, think naked women, think scrub and rinse, think more football

my shower each morning has no room for thinking about Leicester or any other club
 
Leicester are not a club for me, their financial history over the last few seasons makes for interesting reading, if you get my drift
 
alcoblade said:
Which tells us that the things that really bring about success are not about the top level, easily identifiable things that clubs are doing.

Yet still more shallow than that, people come out with shite like “start thinking outside the box”! 😂
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I think he's forgotten to "clear the rocks from the runway" first.
 
Alf Tuppers Shorts said:
Sorry,but for me that’s where Chris Wilder went wrong,keeping his tried a trusted players for far too long. We still have too many from 4/5 years ago and some from the old division one days. We need them to be replaced and stop looking through rose tinted glasses. We seem to have some up and coming youth players we can slowly integrate into the squad.
We could be on the brink of something special again? or on the slide back to the old days. We are in the hands of the board ,it’s time for them to shine, or not. Let’s hope they’re willing to learn from the last couple of seasons and have a proper professional plan in place.
I agree with everything you wrote until your last sentence,clean the decks is the way for me. Let’s just hope what happens in the next months is going to be inspiring and exciting for us all. Let’s have our own model and not copy someone else’s, forget Leicester or Brentford let’s have a Blades model for once. UTB.
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I was basically saying that the team was much better than the sum of its parts but when those parts stopped working at 100% efficiency slowly the wheels began to come off until there was a tipping point and we collapsed.

There's no way we're anyway near something special again. We've still got 75% of a dying squad. It will take years to clear those out and replace them. We simply don't have the money to clear the decks and no one is going to buy our overpaid players, especially when most EFL clubs are very skint.

So, we're stuck with the most of this squad next season. Our first team will look very much like the first team tonight. The U-23s just won basically the L1 title at their age level. The only youth players who have played, and that's one sub appearance each, are forwards. They'll play more, but they wouldn't if it wasn't for injuries. At most you'll maybe see a striker, along with RND and maybe Slater (who has seen a bench mainstay for a top L1 side)

We'll probably sign a midfield, a defender (if JOC isn't coming back and Egan goes, then maybe 2) and maybe a number 10. I can't see much more than that. The bulk of next year's side will look like this year's side and therefore there's no way we're coming back up.
 
Going bust, clearing all debts and staying in the championship was a novel idea, then getting a football fan who is famous, Lineker, to help get them started again and look for new owners to start from scratch, yeah, love fuckin Leicester
 



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