There's no quick fix

[blade too long]

What's wrong with wanting to see your team actually win something in your lifetime? To have that big day out and win a trophy that actually means something? Oxford, Portsmouth, Wigan, Swansea and Wimbledon to name a few off the top of my head have all achieved what dreams are made of in my lifetime so why can't we want and dream the same things? Why do so many of us settle for second best? Heroes in defeat? I'd swap every losing cup semi final for a cup win. Every day out at Wembley to just win something there. Is it too much to want?

course I want to see us win something
unless soimeone comes in nd gives us 3 or 400 million quid its a bit far off

 

[Harry's Game]

I agree with the title of the OP there is no quick fix, I am pretty sure we are not going to finish top two this season and we will never win a play off so we turn to the summer and thankfully a clear out of the dead wood, however this also means just the start of the rebuild and next season will probably be a long mid table slog as young and new players try to fit into the side.

I hope all this is all done under Adkins, he has only just begun to try unraveling the mess left behind by Clough and I reckon it's going to be about three seasons until we are capable of competing again for an automatic promotion place starting from now, I just hope the board have the faith and patience to stick by the manager.

 

[JJBlade]

Two points, people are already making the comments you've mentioned and have been for quite some time. It's not something that's going to suddenly begin at the end of this season that only the cynics can see.
Secondly, although there is no doubt season ticket numbers will fall dramatically, we are getting around 19000 gates at the moment, to suggest we'd get less in the PL is ridiculous. There's enough to knock the whole set up with without resorting to "we're doomed " just because you no longer have the stomach for it.

When we first came down to Division Three in 1979 we were getting between 15,000 - 18,000 in for games. Even in spite of the horrendous way the club was being run our support was still very high for lower League football. These attendances started to drop to around 9,000 - 10,000 and 12,000 for biggish games by the mid 80's.
These fans were the diehards, no new fans were coming through because of the disgraceful and embarrassing way the club had been run for so many years.
We are only a season or two away from that again now.
When we got back to the top flight in 1989-90 through to 1994 many of our attendances were appalling for top flight football and weren't much better than they were for the first year of Third Division football because the cynicism had robbed us not only of some of the older fans but also their sons who would normally have supported United.

Once our attendances drop to around the 9,000- 10,000 maybe 12,000 mark like they did in the mid 80's (and they will if the club doesn't get its finger out) many of these people will be gone forever along with their sons and daughters who will never have been taken to the games.