The standard of refereeing

[Foxy]

I know it's a difficult job, but how many weeks do we come away saying "surely it can't get much worse"... then another comes along more incompetent and inconsistant than the last!

Todays result and game was 90% the officials.

 

[bladesadviser]

And this one has reffed in the premier league.!! Both first half penalties wrong, our second goal offside, blatent penalty for shove missed in second half, Boggys sending off don't really know as he played the ball first

 

[Linz]

I would be very interested to see the Bogdanovic decision again.

My initial reaction involved a lot of "fs" and "nevers".

 

[Foxy]

I would be very interested to see the Bogdanovic decision again.

My initial reaction involved a lot of "fs" and "nevers".

Gonna watch the recording again shortly, but from the opposite side of the pitch it didn't look it and certainly looked like a better challenge than a couple they earlier got away with.

I really hope I can stand corrected, because there were many big decisions he made a complete balls up of this afternoon, with the help of his linesmen.

 

[Bladesman]

Never a sending off for Bogroll that really was just the ref trying to even the game up.

Totally poor his decisions all through the game bar our second penalty.

 

[Balham]

On first watch it looked a free kick but the reply wasn't pretty.

Foxy's right though, take out the strange decisions and you're looking at 1-1 with another possibly penalty for us - just before their second it looked suspiciously like N'Diaye blocked a shot with his arm in the John Terry way (leaning in and getting away with it)

 

[Yossarian]

I don't think our second penno should have stood in all honesty. Sure, there was a push, but imo it was not particularly hard and Boggy has made a 3-course meal of it. The only goal that should have stood was their 2nd.

 

[Worksop II]

Boggy has gone high and caught him inside the leg above the knee, I think reckless rather than malicious.

Hard to argue with the Red Card though.

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I don't think our second penno should have stood in all honesty. Sure, there was a push, but imo it was not particularly hard and Boggy has made a 3-course meal of it. The only goal that should have stood was their 2nd.

Their Pen and our 2nd Pen were players feeling the defender and going over, poor reffing, but for once it did even itself out

 

[Yossarian]

Because it was recklessness rather than malice plus the fact it was his first, I don't think it would have been a poor - or unusual - decision to give him a yellow plus a good talking to. If it were a different ref, Boggy would have played to the final whistle.

 

[Worksop II]

Because it was recklessness rather than malice plus the fact it was his first, I don't think it would have been a poor - or unusual - decision to give him a yellow plus a good talking to. If it were a different ref, Boggy would have played to the final whistle.

The Ref could also taken into account the size of Boggy`s feet .....

 

[Bergen Blade]

Complain as much as you want, but until the authorities do something about diving and players pretending to be injured, it's going to get worse. Players are getting better and better at acting, and referees will therefore only make more random decisions, often decisive ones like today.

Post match analyses by an independent panel that can give 1-2 match bans for attempts to fool the referee would sort it out IMO.

 

[Foxy]

Complain as much as you want, but until the authorities do something about diving and players pretending to be injured, it's going to get worse. Players are getting better and better at acting, and referees will therefore only make more random decisions, often decisive ones like today.

I totally agree. There is no excuse for the other blatent stuff we constantly see however. Players clearly heading the ball out with no-one challenging them, resulting in throw in's for the wrong team... Players booting the ball into the stands to waste time when a big decision is given, etc etc.

I have absolutely no problem with them making mistakes, it's the consistency between sides and the frequency they make big mistakes that annoys me... that and the complete lack of any come back.

 

[breeny]

terrible performance by the ref!

 

[beechblade]

Ref's have been shite all season. Not just for us but in many other games I've seen. In all honest iI think the case for vid tech is getting proven and its the way forward IMO. If something isn't done about the diving on the level Bergen has said. Then this would certainly be away to sort it out on the field and straight one way to sort it rather than by an indepedent panel. And IMO it should be a straight red for a dive, no excuses, that way they incurr a 3 match ban straight, if offences are repeated then the FA or FIFA needs to look at serious bans and fines, this aspect of the game is getting out of hand.

As for tonight, its about time we got some luck.

 

[Yossarian]

True beech... you'd think that the refs would be more adamant about diving than they currently are. After all - with a foul, they're trying to harm the other players. With a dive, they're trying to cheat the referee and make them look like fools.

 

[Wapping Blade]

Agree about divers. The idiot presenter on Sky was going on about Danns "feeling the contact" so that's why he went down. Sorry but I thought a foul had to be committed to win a penalty and "feeling the contact" is no way a foul and if you go down like Danns did, it's downright cheating. Why have the idiot media been sucked into this redefinition?

Rant over ;-)

 

[oaklandrdblade]

While I agree that the standard of refereeing is generally pretty poor, I can't think of another sport where every player is making the job harder by trying to cheat. It's not just the diving that gets me, it's the appealing for throwins and corners when they know full well they were the last one to touch it. The other one that is really getting to me more and more is when the player picks up the ball after a decision has gone against them and walks off with it.=, then when they are happy the rest of the team are back they give the ball to the ref or an opposition player - I really can't see how this is any different to kicking the ball away.

 

[WorkingtonBlade]

My most hated pundit phrase:

"if there was contact he's entitled to go down"

No-one is 'entitled' to go down. Going down should never be a decision of any kind. You fall flat on your face if you're unable to stay on your feet. If you deliberately go flat on your face you're trying to influence the ref, whether there was contact or not. I know it's difficult, because you very rarely get a free kick unless you sprawl on the turf, but the fact that players spend so much of their time with their face in the mud makes a mockery of the game.

As has been said, the first step to putting this right is straight reds for diving, plus a panel studying video evidence giving lengthy bans to those who dived and were not seen by the ref. Refs then have to do their bit by giving free kicks when a player is illegally impeded - not just when he throws himself across the turf.

 

[j j]

Why have the idiot media been sucked into this redefinition?

Because most pundits are ex players & they used to cheat, too.

 

[Kev Gee]

The ref was shocking today... We should have had a pen before he gave the first as one of there CBs blatently handballed.
So i suppose he evened it up abit. But heh...what a shocker he was.

 

[grafikhaus]

Everybody is right about the players - cheats who are ruining the game. But if they didn't behave in this way, they'd be shown the door by some ranting idiot of a manager.

Kenwyn Jones (Stoke at West Brom yesterday) committed one of the more blatant dives to win a penalty but even the West Brom players didn't protest.

One of my pet hates is when a player (usually an away player) commits a seemingly-innocuous foul around the centre circle. 'Not worth a booking' thinks the ref. No, but it allows the entire team to get back and lessen the chance of scoring.

Who started all this? Dirty Leeds under Don Revie! For younger viewers who weren't around at that time, I can assure you that this team wrote every cheating way in the book.

 

[Bergen Blade]

A former teammate of Jose Reyes said that Reyes and the coach at Sevilla had individual training sessions where he practiced diving.

My suggestion:

1) Get the panel thing started
Or
2) Get John Pemberton to do the same with our kids

 

[Selly]

My most hated pundit phrase:

"if there was contact he's entitled to go down"

No-one is 'entitled' to go down. Going down should never be a decision of any kind. You fall flat on your face if you're unable to stay on your feet. If you deliberately go flat on your face you're trying to influence the ref, whether there was contact or not. I know it's difficult, because you very rarely get a free kick unless you sprawl on the turf, but the fact that players spend so much of their time with their face in the mud makes a mockery of the game.

As has been said, the first step to putting this right is straight reds for diving, plus a panel studying video evidence giving lengthy bans to those who dived and were not seen by the ref. Refs then have to do their bit by giving free kicks when a player is illegally impeded - not just when he throws himself across the turf.

I've highlighted the relevant bit IMO. Until refs get better at spotting infringements where the player has tried to continue on, then players will naturally go down.

See Akinbiyi v Crewe in our promotion season for an example of this.

 

[Northyorksblade]

At least the ref was seen in all his 'glory' on TV. So once his whole game has been assessed I would think he'd get a ban, life time at the very least!

 

[Bergen Blade]

At least the ref was seen in all his 'glory' on TV. So once his whole game has been assessed I would think he'd get a ban, life time at the very least!

Meanwhile, the players who won cheap penalties will be praised by their managements, probably even encouraged to do it again.

 

[Karaoke Blade]

Meanwhile, the players who won cheap penalties will be praised by their managements, probably even encouraged to do it again.

To be fair to Ched, I don't even think he tried to get a pen. He went for the ball, could'nt get it, two Palace players flew in and tackled each other!! Ref points to the spot.

 

[Pinchy]

I don't think our second penno should have stood in all honesty. Sure, there was a push, but imo it was not particularly hard and Boggy has made a 3-course meal of it. The only goal that should have stood was their 2nd.

A push is a foul. A foul results in a free-kick. A free-kick within the penalty area is a penalty! 'Not particularly hard' is irrelevant.

 

[JohnDenver]

Diving footballers should all be dragged from their beds in the dead of night, bound and blindfolded, bundled into the back of a Transit, doused in petrol, and made to understand the error their ways.

The worst Blades culprits in my time... Kyle Walker. Rob Hulse. Jack Lester. All good players. All willing to cheat.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

The problems are as much with the rules as they are with officials. They firstly put people in charge of games who dont have any reasonable playing experience half of the time.....so the saying goes that those who cant play referee.

Its not just about their incompetency though, its the fact that a game that used to be simple has now become so complicated and contradictory on certain rules that it has created grey areas and given refs more room for interpretation (hence they get a large portion of 50/50 decisions wrong).

I think the standard of refereeing in this country is poor as well but it is not helped by the ridiculous changing of goalposts (excuse the obvious pun) at every opportunity. What they've done is created a game with very few visible lines between correct and incorrect and officials left in charge who either aren't strong enough to make the right call under pressure or are just idiots.

Another example of how football has created a problem for itself.

 

[super_pig]

i don't think ched even appealed for a pen.. it was interesting watching the repeat of the test match rugby the other day where they have a live feed to the referee.. you could hear exactly what he was doing and what he was on about.. he seemed to have far more respect from the players.. when a bit of a punch up started he just said to the captains 'we're losing discipline guys.. pack it in' and that was it