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No, but I don't understand how you can critisise something that you have no suggested alternative to.
Its worrying that you think players taking responsibility for what they do is a ridiculous point.
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No, but I don't understand how you can critisise something that you have no suggested alternative to.
Its worrying that you think players taking responsibility for what they do is a ridiculous point.
Firstly, it's easy to criticise something to which one has no suggested alternative.
I can criticise the actions of both the Israelis and the Palestinians, but I'll be a monkey's uncle if I can work out how to solve the problems over there.
Anyway, I do have a suggested alternative - sack the manager and try some different tactics. They can't be any worse, surely?
Secondly, I didn't suggest that players taking responsibility for what they do is a ridiculous point. I was suggesting that your demands that I offer an alternative to the current tactics, despite it not being my forte, were ridiculous. I don't ask Robbo and Kidd for their opinions on producing educational software.
I can criticise the actions of both the Israelis and the Palestinians, but I'll be a monkey's uncle if I can work out how to solve the problems over there.
Anyway, I do have a suggested alternative - sack the manager and try some different tactics. They can't be any worse, surely?
Secondly, I didn't suggest that players taking responsibility for what they do is a ridiculous point. I was suggesting that your demands that I offer an alternative to the current tactics, despite it not being my forte, were ridiculous. I don't ask Robbo and Kidd for their opinions on producing educational software.
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Robbo and Kidd aren't slagging off the production of educational software, I imagine if they did you would ask how they thought you were going wrong in what you were doing if they knew much better.
I effectively asked your reasons for your opinion that the tactics are to blame and should be different, didn't say you were wrong or that you should know better than men employed to do it.
I personally don't think the tactics should have been much different today. We didn't win, it clearly didnt work, but i'm of the opinion that the players performances had for more of a negative effect than the tactics. Whether or not this is due to the management is open to question, it certainly has some to do with the players though.
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anyway, you guys win. well done
I really don't think you understand/interpret my posts the way they are meant in the slightest.
id have played different tactics.
Why play high balls to a team how love playing it in the air. Its easy to defend especially with 10 men. should have got the ball down on the deck and make that extra man count by passing and moving.
Ugo should have never started, also naysmith and tonge.
The players have a responsibility and the manager tells them what to do. It stops at robson at the end of the day. We have changed players about, its not been the same team and we still play crap, is it that all the players are crap or robson just hasnt a clue?
Why play high balls to a team how love playing it in the air. Its easy to defend especially with 10 men. should have got the ball down on the deck and make that extra man count by passing and moving.
Ugo should have never started, also naysmith and tonge.
The players have a responsibility and the manager tells them what to do. It stops at robson at the end of the day. We have changed players about, its not been the same team and we still play crap, is it that all the players are crap or robson just hasnt a clue?
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I wouldn't have punted the ball forward as much as we did myself either. On more than one occaision I saw robbo/kidd signalling to get the ball on the deck though, so presumably the players weren't told to blast the ball forwards.
Something needs to change big time, that has to come from a change in management and playing staff (not in personnell, but in attitudes and performances)
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I suppose the frustration is that when I look at this team vs last year's, I really think the one we have has the talent to be a great team. How to get the switch from working hard (which I think they are doing) to working for each other (which they are not doing) is still the million dollar question.
If we don't achieve our targets at work, our manager gets a bollocking as the team (and store) isn't achieving targets as a whole. As far as my manager's boss is concerned, it's down to them to kick us into touch.
Now I'm the one who can achieve those targets by getting my act together - my manager can encourage me, and support me, and give me more training if it's required - but is it actually THEIR fault if I'm not up to scratch? Should they get the boot because I'm not performing as their superior wishes?
Look at that as players (me) -> Robson (manager) -> McCabe (superior)
....but then look at that as Robson (me) -> McCabe (manager)
Swings & roundabouts
Now I'm the one who can achieve those targets by getting my act together - my manager can encourage me, and support me, and give me more training if it's required - but is it actually THEIR fault if I'm not up to scratch? Should they get the boot because I'm not performing as their superior wishes?
Look at that as players (me) -> Robson (manager) -> McCabe (superior)
....but then look at that as Robson (me) -> McCabe (manager)
Swings & roundabouts
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I can't say much as I haven't been much this year. However, I think I would rather pay to see you play, although I wont be doing so.
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I think ypou got it in one - motivation is not the same as confidence.
they need to work for there money the players, so has robson got the power to make them donate there money to charity?
ala foxy, didnt see the bench signalling the players to get it on the deck, but if you saw that and the players didnt, does this show that there not behind robson?
The pitch is in a desperate state but its not like we try to play any football anyway.
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I agree, but it would be bloody tempting if your customer was Carlton Palmer. I've had to serve him before, and it's very hard not to either rob the twat blind, or just chuck him out of the pub.
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That's not entirely true, on a decent pitch we have got it down and passed it about, well at least tried anyway, this season. It's always been away from home though, because our pitch has been awful all season.
I agree. They should all take the blame if they have been bad. However, Robson has consistently showed he isn't up to the job (as have some players). Therefore, he has to go as do players who aren't good enough/don't look bothered.I'm suggesting that they all take the blame.
Or should one man be blamed?
The pitch was fine for the first couple of months of the season and no football was forthcoming though i agree we have simply resorted to not even trying to play a passing game of late.
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The manager tells the players how to play, yeh the players have been under-performing but they are decent enough and if you are near to relagation when you have players good enough to be at least in the top two, then your a crap manager. He has to go, not the players, him. We need a manager who can bring the best out of the players because Mr. Robson and Mr. Kidd arnt doing that.
Oh and I bet Billy Sharp scores loads when Robson goes.
Oh and I bet Billy Sharp scores loads when Robson goes.
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The manager tells the players how to play, yeh the players have been under-performing but they are decent enough and if you are near to relagation when you have players good enough to be at least in the top two, then your a crap manager. He has to go, not the players, him. We need a manager who can bring the best out of the players because Mr. Robson and Mr. Kidd arnt doing that.
Oh and I bet Billy Sharp scores loads when Robson goes.
Pretty much how I feel.
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