The penalty incidents

[1973Blade]

I thought for the penalty that was given Fleck was clipped, but no one around me agreed and thought it was a dive.
The second incident looked a clear penalty, Clarke was chopped down.
How did Sky call it?

 

[UnitedUnitedWeStand]

I thought for the penalty that was given Fleck was clipped, but no one around me agreed and thought it was a dive.
The second incident looked a clear penalty, Clarke was chopped down.
How did Sky call it?

I also thought Stevens was lucky not to give a penalty away. No idea why he felt compelled to stick his arm out.

 

[Baxters left nostril]

First penalty looked soft to me, definitely looked like fleck went down easily. The one on Clarke though looked absolutely nailed on from where I was sat.

 

[UnitedUnitedWeStand]

First penalty looked soft to me, definitely looked like fleck went down easily. The one on Clarke though looked absolutely nailed on from where I was sat.

On the TV Fleck looked like he dived and may well get thrown in front of that new diving retrospective panel. Clark’s trailing foot was caught but it would have been a soft decision.

 

[metalblade]

All three incidents were penalties.

 

[Harry's Game]

Flek one There was contact, went down easily though.

Clark one was nailed on, ref bottled it.

 

[PokerBlade]

Definitely contact on the replays. And in my opinion Fleck definitely played for it. The defender is trying to pull out of the challenge but does it too late. I think it's his slow reaction to the free kick that got him in trouble. Penalty all day long, Fleck did well to draw the foul.

 

[Barney]

Very marginal contact on Fleck and it certainly didn't warrant such theatrics, but then again there was contact so I'm not sure. I do hope Wilder had a word in his ear after FT about diving though.

 

[metalblade]

On the TV Fleck looked like he dived and may well get thrown in front of that new diving retrospective panel. Clark’s trailing foot was caught but it would have been a soft decision.

Get a new TV fella the defender clipped him as he went past, no need to make that tackle though.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

Both looked pens to me from JSS kop end - definite contact with both.

 

[robbiez666]

I thought for the penalty that was given Fleck was clipped, but no one around me agreed and thought it was a dive.
The second incident looked a clear penalty, Clarke was chopped down.
How did Sky call it?

Fleck dived from the angle they showed on TV. I'd like to see it from the other side but O'Kane pulled out of the challenge and Fleck just went down and didn't make the biggest fuss of claiming it. He was never getting that ball. The reaction of O'Kane probably said it all.

The one with Clarke looked more likely, but again it was hard to see if there was any contact, albeit the defender was stupid to cut across his line like that. More often than not I think it would have been given.

The ball hit Steven's elbow and there was enough of a distance for it to be given. It would have been slightly harsh but should probably have been a penalty.

 

[BushBlade]

On the TV Fleck looked like he dived and may well get thrown in front of that new diving retrospective panel. Clark’s trailing foot was caught but it would have been a soft decision.

Rubbish. It was a penalty. Clarke's was too but I can understand why the ref didn't give it.

 

[UnitedUnitedWeStand]

Fleck dived from the angle they showed on TV. I'd like to see it from the other side but O'Kane pulled out of the challenge and Fleck just went down and didn't make the biggest fuss of claiming it. He was never getting that ball. The reaction of O'Kane probably said it all.

The one with Clarke looked more likely, but again it was hard to see if there was any contact, albeit the defender was stupid to cut across his line like that. More often than not I think it would have been given.

The ball hit Steven's elbow and there was enough of a distance for it to be given. It would have been slightly harsh but should probably have been a penalty.

That’s how I saw it.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Fleck was contact but he made a meal of it.
Personally I wouldn’t give a penalty but by the letter of the law there was contact, so was a penalty.
The Sky pundits watched the video replay and all agreed there was some contact, so definitely a penalty.

 

[SwissBlade]

I thought for the penalty that was given Fleck was clipped, but no one around me agreed and thought it was a dive.
The second incident looked a clear penalty, Clarke was chopped down.
How did Sky call it?

At the time (from the kop) flecks looked 100% a dive. Just seen it and it looks like a real Michael brown special. Anticipate contact and then lift both feet off the ground, add a twist for guaranteed penalty. No penalty

Clarke’s - only saw it in real time but looked 100% a pen. Was trying to score. Penalty

This, for me is where refs get conned and don’t know the game. Fleck conned the ref, Leon didn’t.

The ref was awful for both sides

 

[KoppedOff]

Just a hunch, but I reckon if the ref hadn't already given us one pen, he would have given the one on Clarke.

 

[BushBlade]

Fleck dived from the angle they showed on TV. I'd like to see it from the other side but O'Kane pulled out of the challenge and Fleck just went down and didn't make the biggest fuss of claiming it. He was never getting that ball. The reaction of O'Kane probably said it all.

The one with Clarke looked more likely, but again it was hard to see if there was any contact, albeit the defender was stupid to cut across his line like that. More often than not I think it would have been given.

The ball hit Steven's elbow and there was enough of a distance for it to be given. It would have been slightly harsh but should probably have been a penalty.

What TV were you watching? The angle on the replay showed clear contact. Even the commentator said it was a pen. Watch the highlights on the Sky website.

 

[BerksBlade]

Sky more or less agreed with the ref on both.
Fleck's was soft, but there was definite contact - seen similar ones given recently. If Harry Kane vs. Liverpool was a penalty, then Fleck's certainly was.
Didn't seem quite so much contact on Leon and to the ref it looked like the defender may have got some of the ball. Some refs would have given it.

 

[Guesty]

Fleck was contact but he made a meal of it.
Personally I wouldn’t give a penalty but by the letter of the law there was contact, so was a penalty.
The Sky pundits watched the video replay and all agreed there was some contact, so definitely a penalty.

That's not the rule is it? It's not a non-contact sport. Unless you also mean he got nothing of the ball (which is true).

 

[1889]

Just a hunch, but I reckon if the ref hadn't already given us one pen, he would have given the one on Clarke.

I agree, Clarke’s was more of a penalty than Flecks, but the ref clearly darent give us another one

 

[INTAKE BLADE]

All three pens, but, Leeds one would have been harsh, our players never dive there was examples in this game of our players staying on their feet and getting naff all.

 

[Muttley]

Said at the time that the first was never a pen, the 2nd def was but ref evened his first mistake up.

After watching it again BOTH were pens.

 

[DeanLearner'sCat]

I think they were both pens, but the 2nd was more obvious.

 

[Karaoke Blade]

Said at the time that the first was never a pen, the 2nd def was but ref evened his first mistake up.

After watching it again BOTH were pens.

I agree. At the time I thought Fleck took a dive but after seeing the replay on TV there was contact and Fleck's momentum took him down. Second was nailed on. Ref was atrocious all day. He bottled two other decisions when both Evans, for us and Forshaw for them, should have had second yellows.

 

[B.Lade]

Sky more or less agreed with the ref on both.
Fleck's was soft, but there was definite contact - seen similar ones given recently. If Harry Kane vs. Liverpool was a penalty, then Fleck's certainly was.
Didn't seem quite so much contact on Leon and to the ref it looked like the defender may have got some of the ball. Some refs would have given it.

Didn't seem quite so much contact???!!! He clearly takes Leon down. Bizarre decision to give a corner. As others have said, if he doesn't give the first I bet he'd have given the second

 

[Harry's Game]

Just a hunch, but I reckon if the ref hadn't already given us one pen, he would have given the one on Clarke.

^^
This.

 

[1973Blade]

Didn't seem quite so much contact???!!! He clearly takes Leon down. Bizarre decision to give a corner. As others have said, if he doesn't give the first I bet he'd have given the second

The ref seemed to lose the plot with corners towards the end. Leeds had one near the end following a shot that went wide!

 

[Pinchy]

What does ‘soft’ mean? Have the laws of the game been re-written? If an attacking player is fouled in the penalty area it’s a penalty whether he suffers multiple broken bones or performs a somersault with triple pike.

 

[cooperblade]

First half, everything was a yellow.

Second half, nothing was a yellow.

 

[Carlton Blade]

I couldn't believe hed given the penalty at first. It's still a little dubious but I thought the Clarke one was a definite penalty