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First time poster, please be gentle.
I've been reading the reaction to Saturdays game and some of the comments reminded me of the comments from opposition fans on "Roy's view from" last season, mainly, their complaints that their team didn't play well and their team didn't play their normal attacking/passing/pressing game our response to those comments were quite rightly that we didn't let them play because we didn't give them time and we played better than them.
In my opinion Rotherham did to us on Saturday what we did to other teams last season and sometimes you have to suck it up and try to find a plan B for such occasions even if plan B is more agricultural
 



First time poster, please be gentle.
I've been reading the reaction to Saturdays game and some of the comments reminded me of the comments from opposition fans on "Roy's view from" last season, mainly, their complaints that their team didn't play well and their team didn't play their normal attacking/passing/pressing game our response to those comments were quite rightly that we didn't let them play because we didn't give them time and we played better than them.
In my opinion Rotherham did to us on Saturday what we did to other teams last season and sometimes you have to suck it up and try to find a plan B for such occasions even if plan B is more agricultural

Rotherham must have been in our changing rooms before the game and put Norwood, Fleck and Freeman's boots on the wrong feet then.

There was an element of Rotherham playing well, however we were as bad as they were good.
 
We seem to have caught the same 'December virus' that we had this time last season!
Our inability to get a 2nd goal and kill teams off has been apparent to most of us for a long time now and we can only hope that a couple of goid quality January signings can change what we're missing.
 
We seem to have caught the same 'December virus' that we had this time last season!
Our inability to get a 2nd goal and kill teams off has been apparent to most of us for a long time now and we can only hope that a couple of goid quality January signings can change what we're missing.

Having to score 3 to win away from home isn't ideal. Our defenders always seem to play ok but we always seem to concede poor goals.
 
What was to some extent our first choice eleven had a collective off day. No one other than Henderson had a good game for the full 90 minutes. Some offered the odd moment of quality. Had mcgoldrick's tap in from 2 yards not been miraculously cleared we'd have won at a canter. But the team ethic fell apart and I was screaming no no no at the tv for 44 minutes of the second half
 
What was to some extent our first choice eleven had a collective off day. No one other than Henderson had a good game for the full 90 minutes. Some offered the odd moment of quality. Had mcgoldrick's tap in from 2 yards not been miraculously cleared we'd have won at a canter. But the team ethic fell apart and I was screaming no no no at the tv for 44 minutes of the second half

We have too many collective days off.
 
I agree we had a collective day off but there has been a lot of criticism of Norwood ( who has played some blinding games in the short time he's been here) of Fleck ( whose still a regular 7/10 player even though I think he's missing his mate Coutes) of Freeman ( who I think most people would agree has added a little extra sparkle than Baldock did at the tail end of last season) and Mcgoldrick ( who gets on the team sheet every week not because of his goals but for sheer amount of work he gets through, on Saturday I noticed how many times he was on our 18 yard area slowing things up for their attackers)
Hopefully it was a bad day
 
But would be top with better consistency and that's what pisses fans off!
There are 6 or 7 other teams can say exactly the same. In my opinion it's the strongest 2nd tier ever, just that a lot of teams are about the same level, and it will be decided by fine margins. I love it personally, and happy to be where we are, within striking distance.
 
First time poster, please be gentle.
I've been reading the reaction to Saturdays game and some of the comments reminded me of the comments from opposition fans on "Roy's view from" last season, mainly, their complaints that their team didn't play well and their team didn't play their normal attacking/passing/pressing game our response to those comments were quite rightly that we didn't let them play because we didn't give them time and we played better than them.
In my opinion Rotherham did to us on Saturday what we did to other teams last season and sometimes you have to suck it up and try to find a plan B for such occasions even if plan B is more agricultural

As first posts go. That's a very good one.

Welcome aboard Bobby. I agree with you. It's no surprise that they've only lost 1 at home.
 
We have too many collective days off.
What do you suggest then?

If it was a consistently bad run we were on then I’d perhaps be looking deep into it but honestly these collective off days are not that frequent. Yes we lose games, but we often play well next game.

This division is tight. Anyone can beat anyone and I think sides that have a go at us will occasionaly get results. Rotherham did that, but they didn’t beat us.

There is the other side where we play a stifling side like Boro or Forest and they play the way that championship sides played before we came up, keep it tight and try to get one.

Then you have the games where we play well and still lose, Swansea.

In between that you get the crap sides trying to do one of the methods above and get nothing

I’m happy with the way we play. Do we need a plan B, not on the basis of Rotherham, we need to execute plan A better and utilise the squad better
 



Because the rest of the teams around us are just as bad for it. We haven't played well in alot of games recently.

Stoke - fantastic football for 80 mins
Pigs - Dominated for full 90
Derby - Superb for 45
Wigan - average despite the 3 points
Rotherham -Crap
Forest - Average

I'd hardly say we haven't played well in a lot of games.
 
Another groundhog aspect of this that reflects last seasons demise in form, is the optimistic hopes on here that the JTW will solve our problems. How many seasons have people pinned their hopes on it now?

We won’t have any decent money to spend again given the owners dispute and anyone Chris does get in on the cheap is unlikely to be a game changer based on the evidence of the last JTW.

Not slashing, just being realistic. We have better squad depth than last season and as far as I can see, there will not be a magic step change in quality in January.
 
Another groundhog aspect of this that reflects last seasons demise in form, is the optimistic hopes on here that the JTW will solve our problems. How many seasons have people pinned their hopes on it now?

We won’t have any decent money to spend again given the owners dispute and anyone Chris does get in on the cheap is unlikely to be a game changer based on the evidence of the last JTW.

Not slashing, just being realistic. We have better squad depth than last season and as far as I can see, there will not be a magic step change in quality in January.

That's the problem, I'd stay we are only short of an all round striker, I wouldn't fancy replacing anyone else...and if we did, the cost would be mental.

We can only build on the squad, it's the last 20 mins of a game that's costing us. The amount of points we've thrown away from winning positions is scandalous. Clearly it's down to energy levels, we need subs that can come in and keep it up.

And please - quit going to 4-4-2.
 
Not really. 3v Swansea
2v Stoke
2v Rovrum

Not that scandalous, although making daft substitutions have not helped.

We can only build on the squad, it's the last 20 mins of a game that's costing us. The amount of points we've thrown away from winning positions is scandalous. Clearly it's down to energy levels, we need subs that can come in and keep it up.
 
Another groundhog aspect of this that reflects last seasons demise in form, is the optimistic hopes on here that the JTW will solve our problems. How many seasons have people pinned their hopes on it now?

We won’t have any decent money to spend again given the owners dispute and anyone Chris does get in on the cheap is unlikely to be a game changer based on the evidence of the last JTW.

Not slashing, just being realistic. We have better squad depth than last season and as far as I can see, there will not be a magic step change in quality in January.
Pretty much what I said earlier!
 
Another groundhog aspect of this that reflects last seasons demise in form, is the optimistic hopes on here that the JTW will solve our problems. How many seasons have people pinned their hopes on it now?

We won’t have any decent money to spend again given the owners dispute and anyone Chris does get in on the cheap is unlikely to be a game changer based on the evidence of the last JTW.

Not slashing, just being realistic. We have better squad depth than last season and as far as I can see, there will not be a magic step change in quality in January.


"Just being tealistic"

As welcome with some as a fart in a spacesuit.

Win tomorrow and Wilders poor substitutions will be forgotten until the next time and the default position of the owners are cunts will be back at the top of the list.
 
We have too many collective days off.

If we'd have beat the pigs no one would give a shit about the Rotherham score, it's because we didn't beat them that it put pressure on the next game.

Got to be aiming to win the next 2 now, which on paper are much harder than the 2 we've just drawn.
 
I agree as I said above. This league is there for the taking but no teams have yet. We need to step up.
Very easy to write. It makes it sound like you just have to walk up to a desk and lift a trophy.

In reality, everyone up there is battling for the same prize in the same way, generally with much greater resource.

They, like us, have also become scalps for those below.
 
I agree we had a collective day off but there has been a lot of criticism of Norwood ( who has played some blinding games in the short time he's been here) of Fleck ( whose still a regular 7/10 player even though I think he's missing his mate Coutes) of Freeman ( who I think most people would agree has added a little extra sparkle than Baldock did at the tail end of last season) and Mcgoldrick ( who gets on the team sheet every week not because of his goals but for sheer amount of work he gets through, on Saturday I noticed how many times he was on our 18 yard area slowing things up for their attackers)
Hopefully it was a bad day

Nobody will convince me that we weren't under prepared for what Rotherham would throw at us.

As much as I'm on board with the idolisation of Wilder, he and his staff aren't infallible.

He certainly isn't to blame for three schoolboy errors leading to their second goal, but our set up first half looked like we had no idea what to expect.
 
What do you suggest then?

If it was a consistently bad run we were on then I’d perhaps be looking deep into it but honestly these collective off days are not that frequent. Yes we lose games, but we often play well next game.

This division is tight. Anyone can beat anyone and I think sides that have a go at us will occasionaly get results. Rotherham did that, but they didn’t beat us.

There is the other side where we play a stifling side like Boro or Forest and they play the way that championship sides played before we came up, keep it tight and try to get one.

Then you have the games where we play well and still lose, Swansea.

In between that you get the crap sides trying to do one of the methods above and get nothing

I’m happy with the way we play. Do we need a plan B, not on the basis of Rotherham, we need to execute plan A better and utilise the squad better

We know what this squad is capable of, we know if we play our football there isn't a team in this division that can stop us, yet how often do we see 'that' team I think maybe 3 times this season.
 
What do you suggest then?

If it was a consistently bad run we were on then I’d perhaps be looking deep into it but honestly these collective off days are not that frequent. Yes we lose games, but we often play well next game.

This division is tight. Anyone can beat anyone and I think sides that have a go at us will occasionaly get results. Rotherham did that, but they didn’t beat us.

There is the other side where we play a stifling side like Boro or Forest and they play the way that championship sides played before we came up, keep it tight and try to get one.

Then you have the games where we play well and still lose, Swansea.

In between that you get the crap sides trying to do one of the methods above and get nothing

I’m happy with the way we play. Do we need a plan B, not on the basis of Rotherham, we need to execute plan A better and utilise the squad better

We need to defend better and grind out results.
 
I'll always say the same. Not playing well, and being lazy, sloppy and not concentrating are too different things.
We turned up at Rotherham trying to steal something instead of trying to gain something

We scored two goals during minor periods of decent play, but the sloppiness and poor concentration after going in front is never far away with this team.

It almost makes you wish we don't score until late on
 
Would you swop Smith for Clark I think I would [and I said it before the match]

A physical presence in the box he gave our CB's a good going over on Saturday
 



I think they just had a sh1t off day from the sounds of it, not gonna criticize em or say how well we play in games cause I didn't watch the game, as tufty said listening to his interview on way to work this morn there will be changes and he did not sound right happy as should be, at least we are in the top 6 and not languishing 3 pts off the relegation zone like barca (money lavished left right and center) wannabees are, I know our current form stats as some have posted on here over the last few games ain't brill, but perhaps sometimes we just have to suck it up and take the rough with the smooth.
It is painful when we concede like that with virtually the last kick of the game...but we all know it's the blades, always expect the unexpected..onwards and upwards...UTB and FTP...
Always the optimist I am, let's hope we come back firing all guns tomorrow night and stuff the bees back into their nest.....
 

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