The end of an era

[Ollessendro]

With the recruit of a hard working (yet limited), defensive midfielder on a long term contract could it be the end of Nick Montgommery's time at the Lane?

Doyle's arrival spells what?

Adams has brough in a player he has worked with before who is very similar to Monty. He sits deep, breaks up attacks and works hard, but has limited distribution abilities and offers little attacking. Doyle is also a natural leader and captained Coventry on numerous occassions. He has signed on a 2 and a half year deal, so surely this means that Monty's days are numbered. Would Adams waste a wage on 2 almost identical players? I would suggest that he would go for the more inspirational leader, lower earner and better player. That would show Monty the way to the M1.

Deadwood

Adams must have been looking at the big earning deadwood at United and thinking geez I must get rid of this lot. Players such as Quinn, Cresswell and Monty should have never have been offered new contracts (never mind lucrative ones) in the summer. We can expect Monty to be earning a lot and perhaps Adams is the man to finally shift him on from the Lane. Of course Micky is concentrating fully on keeping us up now. However I suspects he will be looking to bring through youthful footballers. He'll be looking for low earning, decent players to fill his team. He'll reserve high wages for big impact players (such as Bent, Ched, Hendo etc). All this can surely only spell one thing?

Have I got my wires crossed?

So Pinchy, is it finally the time that we see the back of the maestro? It also seems that his friend Elpiton may be leaving too. It is less clear cut on the Stpehen Quinn situation, but I fully expect Monty to leave during the summer. Will anyone be willing to take on his contract? Possibly. Apparently he is highly rated in the game (and cerainly by many on here). Maybe I am reading into this too much, but answer me this 'why offer Doyle a 2 and a half year deal? Why not til the end of the season?'

 

[sheffielder]

I don't think Doyle spells the end to Monty at all. We were short of an experienced head in midfield and he resolved that. Don't be surprise to see quinn left and monty and doyle together to solidify things till the end of the season

 

[Highbury_Blade]

I think we'll likely see Monty and Doyle together in the middle of the park, with Williamson replacing one of them when he's fit. That all depends on whether micky can get another winger in though.

 

[lenners]

Doyle's career record suggests he is not as good a player as Monty so if previous history plays out he may not be in the team on a regular basis.

 

[Grecian2000]

Doyle's career record suggests he is not as good a player as Monty

Fuck me Len. For someone who has a history of making less than positive posts, that one is the scariest of the lot!

 

[raul]

Fuck me Len.

Will money be changing hands here?

 

[SotonBlade]

Will money be changing hands here?

More than likely to be paid in kind!

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Doyle's career record suggests he is not as good a player as Monty so if previous history plays out he may not be in the team on a regular basis.

You may be right - but talking to a bloke at work who supports Leeds and played with Montgomery (and Kilgallon) as a youngster, he rated Doyle and wanted Leeds to sign him in the summer. He saw no reason why they couldn't be successful together, although it wouldn't be like watching Brazil, as long as there were outlets once they'd got the ball. Having watched us a few times over the last couple of seasons he doesn't see our passing from midfield as the problem so much as not having people in attacking positions to pass it to when they get the ball.

I'll be more worried come the end of the window if we're still having to resort to playing either Williamson or Cresswell as make-shift wide players.

 

[SwissBlade]

Many have assumed Monty's demise in the past, many have been wrong.

 

[lenners]

Fuck me Len. For someone who has a history of making less than positive posts, that one is the scariest of the lot!

Looking at his career record, it looks like Monty has spent his time playing at a higher level whereas Doyle worked his way down to League One last season.
We'll see.

 

[chipsncake]

Monty on his way? Please let it be true then maybe we can begin to make some real progress.

 

[Worksop II]

Many have assumed Monty's demise in the past, many have been wrong.

Many have predicted United's Rise in the Past, many have been wrong.

Might be connected

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

From what I can remember, Doyle is predominatey left footed so it wouldn't surprise me at all to see a Monty / Doyle partnership in the middle. Won't be the worst thing provided we have wingers and creativity around them. That's (still) the problem IMO.

 

[lenners]

From what I can remember, Doyle is predominatey left footed so it wouldn't surprise me at all to see a Monty / Doyle partnership in the middle. Won't be the worst thing provided we have wingers and creativity around them. That's (still) the problem IMO.

Given his performances since return from injury it would be odd to see our midfield without Williamson.

 

[Micalijo]

From what I can remember, Doyle is predominatey left footed so it wouldn't surprise me at all to see a Monty / Doyle partnership in the middle. Won't be the worst thing provided we have wingers and creativity around them. That's (still) the problem IMO.

You do know you can only pick 11 players? Seems like you suggest a Coventry reserve, Monty plus two proper midfielders and a couple of wingers. Why not have a couple of central midfielders who can actually play a bit?

 

[Big Mart]

We were short of an experienced head in midfield and he resolved that.

What??? Monty, as useless as he is, and boy is he useless, has been on the books long enough now to be classed as "experienced". He may be a useless waste of space who offers nothing to our talentless squad, but one thing you can't say is that he's inexperienced

 

[Ollessendro]

I think we'll likely see Monty and Doyle together in the middle of the park, with Williamson replacing one of them when he's fit. That all depends on whether micky can get another winger in though.

So basically we are looking to have the highest paid inadequate midfield in the Championship! Nigh on 20k a week for a pair of sluggers. 2 players who will run their socks off, put in grit like performances but cannot pass. 2 players that will break up every opposition attack, but then break up our attacks too. No thanks.

It simply HAS to be one of the other. And why sign a defensive midfielder, in the same mould as Monty? Maybe I am dreaming, but I think the Maestros days are over. We'll see who he goes for.

Personally I will be pretty disappointed if Adams lines up Monty and Doyle in the centre of the park for Leicester, never mind any other games.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

If we get pass the transfer window without signing another CM who else would you pick? It's highly unlikely that Willo will play every game between now and the end of the season?

Like i said if Adams signs another winger, then i think that the CM will rotate between Doyle, Monty and Willo. Some of those games will feature monty and doyle together, providing defensive cover while the bulk of our attacks come from the wings.

I hope this doesn't come to pass, as i would prefer to see play come through the middle too, but if we don't get another CM then i don't think that Adams will have much choice.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

I dont see many (if any) players leaving in the short term. Its going to take Micky a long time to reshape the squad and build it in his own image. He'll have to do it bit by bit because we are short on numbers as it is.

I could see a one or two senior players being moved on in the summer but I dont see Monty being one of them to be honest. I think he has a future under Micky because he's a fighter and will do the dirty jobs whilst we try to rebuild.

Whilst some on here dont see the logic of keeping Doyle and Monty, I completely see the logic. I wouldnt necessarily agree with it, but you have to think less about their limitations and more about their strengths.

 

[bendylegs]

Monty on his way? Please let it be true then maybe we can begin to make some real progress.

:thumbdown: why

 

[Ollessendro]

If we get pass the transfer window without signing another CM who else would you pick? It's highly unlikely that Willo will play every game between now and the end of the season?

I'd play Doyle and Willo as first choice. I'd then play Doyle and Quinn, as at least Qinny (although I don't rate him) gives an attacking option.

Perhaps my comments we a little harsh, but I would be sceptical about having Doyle and Monty playing together in the centre of the park. Maybe if we got some decent wide options. As alco said in another thread, we got promoted with a very average centre midfield. However we had wide options of Ifill, Gillespie, Tongue and Armtrong who could all create something and score. If Adams does plump for Doyle and Monty then I really hope he signs (at least) another winger before the end of today. Ward is not a winger, but Yeates is a decent option. Another winger on the other flank, with Monty and Doyle in the centre might work (they just need a decent outlet) might work. I'd sooner have Willo playing though (but take the point of Williamsons poor fitness record).

 

[Ollessendro]

Strong rumours (well Coops mentioned it and someone from Blades Mad posted it) that Monty is on his way to Leeds on loan til the rest of the season (and maybe permanent). Looks like Ollessendro might be saying 'I told you so' (again).

Why else would we sign a defensive midfielder on a 2 and a half year contract when we already have one? I am not a fan of Doyle from the 50 minutes I saw of him, but if this spells the end of the maestro then so be it.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Strong rumours (well Coops mentioned it and someone from Blades Mad posted it) that Monty is on his way to Leeds on loan til the rest of the season (and maybe permanent). Looks like Ollessendro might be saying 'I told you so' (again).

Why else would we sign a defensive midfielder on a 2 and a half year contract when we already have one? I am not a fan of Doyle from the 50 minutes I saw of him, but if this spells the end of the maestro then so be it.

I genuinely cant see them sending Monty away at this point, given our predicament and the type of character he is. On the other hand this might be an opportunity for Micky to free up quite a bit of money and if he can get someone with a bit of quality in then I'm all for it.

As I said though, I find it highly unlikely but you never know. Desperate times and all that..........

 

[Robbie]

Why else would we sign a defensive midfielder on a 2 and a half year contract when we already have one? .

Same reason we signed Ertl?

 

[Ollessendro]

Same reason we signed Ertl?

We signed Ertl (or Blackwell did) because he is a utility player. He can play in 3 different positions (RB, CB and CM) and hence KB's thinking was obviosuly that with a small squad, he would be useful.

Will Micky finally be the manager to shift Sir Nick on?

Where are you pinchy? Does this seem to good to be true???

 

[chipsncake]

We signed Ertl (or Blackwell did) because he is a utility player. He can play in 3 different positions (RB, CB and CM) and hence KB's thinking was obviosuly that with a small squad, he would be useful.

Will Micky finally be the manager to shift Sir Nick on?

Where are you pinchy? Does this seem to good to be true???

Olly, for some of us it does seem too good to be true, but to feel the real benefit of such a move we will have to fare far better at bringing players in than Adams has done so far.

 

[Bladesman]

We can only hope it is the end regards to monty.

Although its the end of an era of success on whole for the club and its back into the shitter we go just with nicer facilities.

 

[Ollessendro]

All eyes on the Maestro on Sat-di*, in what could be his last game. I expect he'll be watched closely to see if his body languages gives owt away. Maybe he'll pay on Tuesday n all, but he could be on his week middle of next week.

Will he shirt go in the crowd after the game? You'll have to fight Pinchy for it!?

I'll have a party in my shed if he moves on!!!


* With a bit of luck he'll be on the bench, but with Willo suspended, Ertl probably needed to defend, Elpiton just rubbish and Doyle uninspiring then we may see the midfield general sending out stray passes everywhere, breaking up attacks (mostly Uniteds), making hillariously (until they score) mis timed tackles, giving away fouls in dangerous positions and getting completely over run this weekend.

 

[super_pig]

>and cerainly by many on here
ERR.. dont' look at me mate

>monty and doyle together
DOOM. APOCALYPSE.