The Adkins Years

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Jim Chimmerney

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Leaving aside all the JTW furore, gnashing of teeth, accusations, conspiracies etc, I think we need to take a step back and look at what is happening.

When Adkins took over 7 months ago, he had to wait a month before he saw any of our payers in the flesh and had to make do with DVDs and the reports from Morgs et al. He reported, not surprisingly, within those 1st few weeks that we were lacking in defence and attack. He would also have been aware that our squad was far too bloated.

There was every chance he was going to lose Murphy so he brought in Woolford, obviously not a fair swap in terms of ability but a reasonably steady addition to the squad, a player he knew well. In came Connor Sammon, the shoe-in Billy Sharp and David Edgar on loan. All decent looking signings on paper from a higher level and although Hammond took a while, another player he knew well from a higher level and he'd brought in a new spine to the team. Sharp aside, the signings have been hit and miss at best but the fact is, he tried to address the spine of the team, something we all said needed doing. We were / are still missing that creative spark and bit of pace and whilst he's given Adams a chance, that still remains a massive problem.

Aside from the incomings, he has had to address the size of the squad and following the JTW, there's a dozen players who have left or clearly will be leaving by next Summer. There's still work to do in this department and I would still expect a bit of movement yet this month and of course next Summer.

So, where do we stand. The team is still lacking in certain departments and seemingly we haven't done anything to address it. This may be the case but it's also unlikely that Adkins hasn't tried within the confinements he has at the moment. It seems clear that the Board aren't happy with the situation, they are, of course, partially to blame but that doesn't help us where we are now. I think the 1st game of the season was a shock and whilst we had a mini run after that I'm sure Adkins has been surprised about our lack of quality and depth. He can't fix it overnight and whilst the jury will be out on his signings so far and his ability to re-build in the Summer, it seems clear that to all intents and purposes, we are planning for the Summer and next season although there is always the hope of the play-offs.

The main problem now is the fans, ST sales for next season and how this season pans out. It won't take much for the atmosphere to turn toxic, there's been signs already in recent games and who knows, if it gets bad, Adkins may not hang around for the rebuild, nor get the chance.

It's painful, another wasted season and possibly our longest period out of the top two divisions achieved but Adkins has to be given time to sort out the bigger picture and if it takes another 6 months, or longer as Jim P has indicated then so be it. For the record, I'd be reasonably confident of a serious challenge next season if Adkins is allowed to rebuild and is backed accordingly, I'm just not sure he's going to get the chance.
 



My view is that we feel much further away than we did after the 5-5 at Swindon. Adkins has, you have to assume, added considerably to the wage bill with his signings but we've got worse.

We're in a difficult position now, we've proved that sacking a manager doesn't work but giving Adkins another season isn't without risks either.

The clear out in the summer has to be real, meaningful and wide-ranging. Without major surgery to the squad, things will continue to get worse.
 
He won't get the chance they will sack him if we don't make the play offs - Clough got sack for more.

A lot can (and probably will) still happen between now and the end of the season but IF they have given him the remit to offload rather than rebuild in the JTW then they can hardly turn round and sack him this season. He will undoubtedly be under pressure until Xmas though.
 
I'm not sure Adkins did mention the defensive issues when he came in did he? He talked about clean slates, honest, hard working bunch of lads and united together. But I don't think it was until our 1st game 4-0 mauling that he looked to act. I think he was also quite complimentary of the side he'd inherited - uttering things like good enough for promotion.

Inward - Adkins has started to address the spine as you say, bringing in 1 permanent signing up front and 3 loanees. None of the three were fit when they arrived. However, after 3months those players are starting to make impacts...but only Edgar is doing his on the pitch

Outward - we took a gamble selling Murphy, but didn't replace him. I can't believe Woolford was his replacement. Che Adams was a more exciting prospect, but it's difficult to see how either will be the long term replacement when discipline and inconsistent runs of games let them down. Other than that we've moved on kids so we still have no room for movement in the first team

Promotion - now with an ageing and talentless squad littered with loanees, it's difficult to see what sort of impetus we now have for anything but a fading season....

Adkins - he's becoming more and more tied up by the board or he's genuinely failing to see the issues. Either way he's not doing a great job so far

One big window - that's all we need. It'll cost money, but we also have that apparently. So summer needs to be a big one. The wasters need to go and be replaced by young, hungry players on their way up not down
 
In fairness to Adkins he took over a team that finished in the play offs and the cup runs would have brought us to national attention. So he must have thought (like most of us) that he had the basis for a promotion push.
If we'd have fought off relegation last season, maybe Adkins and his employers might have acted a lot quicker in the summer.
 
I'm not sure Adkins did mention the defensive issues when he came in did he? He talked about clean slates, honest, hard working bunch of lads and united together. But I don't think it was until our 1st game 4-0 mauling that he looked to act. I think he was also quite complimentary of the side he'd inherited - uttering things like good enough for promotion.

Inward - Adkins has started to address the spine as you say, bringing in 1 permanent signing up front and 3 loanees. None of the three were fit when they arrived. However, after 3months those players are starting to make impacts...but only Edgar is doing his on the pitch

Outward - we took a gamble selling Murphy, but didn't replace him. I can't believe Woolford was his replacement. Che Adams was a more exciting prospect, but it's difficult to see how either will be the long term replacement when discipline and inconsistent runs of games let them down. Other than that we've moved on kids so we still have no room for movement in the first team

Promotion - now with an ageing and talentless squad littered with loanees, it's difficult to see what sort of impetus we now have for anything but a fading season....

Adkins - he's becoming more and more tied up by the board or he's genuinely failing to see the issues. Either way he's not doing a great job so far

One big window - that's all we need. It'll cost money, but we also have that apparently. So summer needs to be a big one. The wasters need to go and be replaced by young, hungry players on their way up not down

He definitely mentioned the defence when he joined but obviously saw enough in Collins and McEveley (seemingly his leader) pre-season to only bring Edgar in. He also said we weren't good enough in that Q&A session he did pre-season. Has he done enough to address the reasons why he thought we weren't, that is the key point.
 
He definitely mentioned the defence when he joined but obviously saw enough in Collins and McEveley (seemingly his leader) pre-season to only bring Edgar in. He also said we weren't good enough in that Q&A session he did pre-season. Has he done enough to address the reasons why he thought we weren't, that is the key point.
That's even worse then! Didn't realise he'd already admitted we were shit but went ahead with Collins and McEv anyway
 
He won't get the chance they will sack him if we don't make the play offs - Clough got sack for more.

But did he? If you just look at the position we finished in, play-offs, cup runs etc. it would appear that Clough left the club in a healthier state than we are in now. However he has left a 'legacy' in terms of squad size, employing his family, utter dross playing style etc. This will take time to sort out and something the board should never allow to happen again.

As disappointed as we all are re. our position in the table, lack of activity in the JTW etc., we've got to give Adkins another 12 months. If we're still playing catch-up in Division 3 this time next year - chasing behemoths such as Oxford, Portsmouth etc. - it will be time to re-assess.

Not all managers are Pep Guardiola. In fact, most of them are shite. While I agree that Weir, Robson, Wilson, Adams, Clough etc. had to go (and history might add Adkins to that list), if we've proved one thing it's that this constant carousel of managers who bring in their own people, styles etc. has contributed massively to our prolonged stay in this division.

I'd agree with the addition of a Director of Football, but only when we first employ a manager. Bringing one in mid-term would likely piss off a manager and cast doubt on his abilities.
 
These League One dark ages are the Ryan Flynn Years...
 
I wondered yesterday whether the board arent fully convinced with Adkins hence the lack of signings. Maybe they don't want to be in a situation like last season where Adkins had to start with cloughs many players? I don't think it's cut and dry that Adkins will be here next season
 



I wondered yesterday whether the board arent fully convinced with Adkins hence the lack of signings. Maybe they don't want to be in a situation like last season where Adkins had to start with cloughs many players? I don't think it's cut and dry that Adkins will be here next season

You don't go from being the best manager available for the job to someone they want out in 7 months. He's only brought in 5 players and most would agree they looked OK on paper but for various reasons, they haven't made us the team we wanted to be. If his remit is to clear out 1st then go again then he has to be given chance to do it.
 
I don't think the board will sack Adkins, even if we fail to make the play-offs (as seems more than likely now).

Just that he'll be told that, for the inevitable rebuild in the summer: "think Scunthorpe rather than Southampton". It'll be free transfers, cast-offs & out-of-contracts as the only incomings. And one or two more sales of the family silver to take place, the rusting remnants of what's left of it that is.
 
There are few threads worth contributing to on here of late, but this is one of them.
FWIW....
I believe our problems are far more deep seated than what we see on the pitch. The bit of anecdotal information I get coming from the engine room of Bramall Lane would suggest all is far from well with the people who are supposed to run and drive our club forward.
Whilst this situation ensues we can never progress on field and treading the current murky waters is all we can hope to achieve.
I think someone used the phrase "Nero fiddled while Rome burned", sums us up in a nutshell!
The co-owners have a lot to answer for with their stewardship over the past 3 or 4 years.
Nigel Adkins, whether he's a good or incompetent manager, now knows what a set of goons he's employed by. It's gonna be a long, painful and teeth grinding next (x) years :-(
 
You don't go from being the best manager available for the job to someone they want out in 7 months. He's only brought in 5 players and most would agree they looked OK on paper but for various reasons, they haven't made us the team we wanted to be. If his remit is to clear out 1st then go again then he has to be given chance to do it.

I totally agree but our board love a fall guy and I can just hear McCabe now "Nigel seemed to struggle with how League One is these days and we thought it would be best to move on. In Brian Deane we have a blades legend who knows what the club is about......"
 
I totally agree but our board love a fall guy and I can just hear McCabe now "Nigel seemed to struggle with how League One is these days and we thought it would be best to move on. In Brian Deane we have a blades legend who knows what the club is about......"
I just think that the previous manager was given way too much leeway, and as we know, left us with a bloated squad. I think the board feel, having put so much trust in him, given their footballing inexperience, their fingers have been burned and they're halting further recruitment until we're down to more manageable numbers. While not agreeing with it, in some ways, I can see their thinking - if NA is left to bring in as many as he needs, how big a squad would we then have.. 45? 50? I feel they know they've made a mistake with leaving Clough and Brannigan to their own devices and are trying to rectify it now - unfortunately NA is bearing the brunt of that. To me, it needs a clear statement of what the position of the Club is, where they're heading. I think Jim's statement was saying "we're going to get the squad back on an even keel then try again" as much as you'll ever see - they're never going to blatantly come out with it.
 
He won't get the chance they will sack him if we don't make the play offs - Clough got sack for more.

No they won't sack him (in my opinion), although I am sure that would be your preferred choice.

Do you mean Clough got the sack for less? As getting the sack for more simply doesn't make any sense?o_O
 
No they won't sack him (in my opinion), although I am sure that would be your preferred choice.

Do you mean Clough got the sack for less? As getting the sack for more simply doesn't make any sense?o_O

Where have I said I want him sacked? Go on find a quote.

I meant Clough got sacked for achieving more than a non play off place.
 
I just think that the previous manager was given way too much leeway, and as we know, left us with a bloated squad. I think the board feel, having put so much trust in him, given their footballing inexperience, their fingers have been burned and they're halting further recruitment until we're down to more manageable numbers. While not agreeing with it, in some ways, I can see their thinking - if NA is left to bring in as many as he needs, how big a squad would we then have.. 45? 50? I feel they know they've made a mistake with leaving Clough and Brannigan to their own devices and are trying to rectify it now - unfortunately NA is bearing the brunt of that. To me, it needs a clear statement of what the position of the Club is, where they're heading. I think Jim's statement was saying "we're going to get the squad back on an even keel then try again" as much as you'll ever see - they're never going to blatantly come out with it.

This "bloated squad" thing.
There was a thread the other day about ins and outs. To me Clough started with a big (and pathetic) squad and got rid of more dross than he brought in. I think the squad he left us with was larger than he would have liked but hardly any bigger, and certainly better, than what he started with.

As for quality, it must be pointed out that less than 2 years ago we were heading on a record breaking spell of clean sheets and an FA Cup semi final with a bunch of players who are largely still around. Seven of the starting 11 at Wembley are still available (albeit 2 years older and off form). Doyle, Coady, Maguire and Murphy are gone from a team were all lauding as promotion candidates in the summer of 2014.

Summer 2014 is where it all went "tits" for whatever reason (best player sold, main targets "missed" or delayed, the Evans factor) and I don't think Clough recovered from that. I don't think the board has now backed Adkins sufficiently (his signings having being way worse than I expected however) and I fear they will react again when the disquiet starts again in earnest. It's a very bad time to be a Blade at the moment and only some patience can get us out of it (or a miracle).
 
He won't get the chance they will sack him if we don't make the play offs - Clough got sack for more.

I am not in the know, nor would I claim to be but if Clough going was a knee-jerk by the Board he would have gone after Swindon. I think he had a big hand in his own demise and in the last 6 months his attitude to the club and its supporters was cool if not hostile at times. Its too easy to look at Clough with rose-tinted specs because of the cup runs and to forget the awful squad he put together, his wasteful spending, the atrocious football, one dimensional tactics and the dire situation he put us in with his stewardship. Employing poor managers and knee-jerk sacking them is what has got us in the mess we are in so I hope Adkins gets a chance of assembling a squad. If Burton go up I think Clough will get an OBE in the Honours List ( Other Bugger's Efforts) - if they don't it will be down to him and his lacklustre cohorts.

I'm not sure Adkins did mention the defensive issues when he came in did he?

He made it plain that the squad was unfit, too large, was carrying too many (hinted at un-necessary) injuries and wasn't good enough to get promoted. I suspect he has been working within the financial and control strictures that resulted from Clough and that given the same budget as Clough we would have had more additions. How good they would be I don't know but they would have been over 5 foot 8 inches and physically fit and robust.
 



I am not in the know, nor would I claim to be but if Clough going was a knee-jerk by the Board he would have gone after Swindon. I think he had a big hand in his own demise and in the last 6 months his attitude to the club and its supporters was cool if not hostile at times. Its too easy to look at Clough with rose-tinted specs because of the cup runs and to forget the awful squad he put together, his wasteful spending, the atrocious football, one dimensional tactics and the dire situation he put us in with his stewardship. Employing poor managers and knee-jerk sacking them is what has got us in the mess we are in so I hope Adkins gets a chance of assembling a squad. If Burton go up I think Clough will get an OBE in the Honours List ( Other Bugger's Efforts) - if they don't it will be down to him and his lacklustre cohorts.



He made it plain that the squad was unfit, too large, was carrying too many (hinted at un-necessary) injuries and wasn't good enough to get promoted. I suspect he has been working within the financial and control strictures that resulted from Clough and that given the same budget as Clough we would have had more additions. How good they would be I don't know but they would have been over 5 foot 8 inches and physically fit and robust.
Looking at what he's brought in they certainly wouldn't be fit, young or mobile... But they'd be over 5'8
 

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