That looked personal!

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HarryHaslam said:
How about he needed an image change, he was struggling to find work and was being overlooked for jobs well within his capability’s. You only had to read Twitter and the fans of the clubs he was linked with, “we don’t want that old dinosaur with his long ball” was the sort of rubbish spouted by people who clearly have never watched his football, not by all of them but enough.

Why? Because he’s a mid 50s straight talking Yorkshireman who stands on the side of the pitch with a tracksuit on barking out the orders. You get stereotyped, it is very hard to lose a label once you have it. He still has ambitions of working higher up, he clearly needed to reinvent himself and have an image change. Let’s be right here if his name was Christoph Wilderson from Salzburg or wherever, what he achieved he would of been snapped up soon as he left us, but he’s Chris from Sheffield, top half of the Premiership want a certain image as their manager, he didn’t fit the bill so he rightly has gone for an image change because he’s certainly good enough to manage clubs higher up. But let’s me honest here, he had a pair of shoes and some trousers on, still had his trusted body warmer on that he always wore with us under his coat, no big deal.

Don’t get the hate he gets, walked away with some money? He deserves every fucking penny of it. Some people have very short memories and have forgot the years stuck in League 1, would we still be stuck in league 1 now if he never came? Probably, and we would not have been watching the masterclass from his signings in the Championship last night. It’s all extremely weird to me how people pounce on our greatest manager in decades for anything, even wearing shoes and trousers.

He’s gone, but I wish him every success wherever he goes because he brightened all out lives up and made them better.

Great touch for him to stand in the tunnel while we did our lap of honours and wait to shake everyone of our players hands. Top man Chris.

Cue the “alright Chris turn it in” witty and hilarious posts.
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Great comments, I'd like him to become a truly successful manager, I'd be proud to say he was our manager, he's from Sheffield like me and a Blade like me. This bitterness is boring and embarrassing, naively I was hoping last night would draw a line under this nonsense.
 
CrookesBlade said:
We are an odd bunch as a fan base. Seems to be a level of antipathy for every Blades manager since John Harris, regardless of how well they did, with the exception of Dave Bassett (who seems to get a free pass despite the poor last couple of seasons and his comments about a “merger” in later years).

Can’t imagine it anywhere else.
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Harris is a turncoat who crossed the great divide, an'all.
 
Can't believe how many trash talk CW.

Really happy we won of course and how we won, and he's not our manager now but man alive are we just to forget past 5 years?
Yeah you can criticize for last season and lets not get too bogged down in all of that but overall he did an absolutely cracking job here. I mean we wouldn't even be in the position right now without his efforts.
The way he left was sour but it wasn't just down to him, he didn't see a working relationship going forward with his bosses, he'd lost it with them.

And he's still a blade too.

Our lads were up for it more than theirs, was it personal. Yeah I think it was, because they wanted to put on a good performance against Boro and CW.
Was it in spite or vengeful, doubt it. Certainly not for the majority of them. That squad was devastated in the immediate aftermath of him leaving.
 
Davalon said:
Missus says she's seen something.

I just hoped last night when he shot down the tunnel he'd wait and shake our players hands outside the dressing room.
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Yeah I’ve just seen it too, didn’t see wilder waiting at the end but saw him with Garret and Baldock
 
We were watching at the end & Wilder waited for the Utd players to complete their lap of applause .The blokes still class & had been nothing but complementary to us before & after the the game , some ppl are just looking to stick the knife in at every opportunity.. I just don’t fkg understand them .
Where are we now as a club compared to where he took over ?? We’d probably still be in League one doing another Sunderland ,Ipswich etc .
I’m glad him and Knilly got the deserved round of applause before they game that they fully deserved for giving 4 out 5 seasons done the best football we’ve seen , punching well above our weight .
I’m glad we played them off the park last night & fully behind the new manager but fuck me there’s some bitter twats around .
Wonder what these ppl thought of some tossers who’ve sat in managers seat over the years ala Adkins ,Heath , Haslam , Bruce , etc who genuinely deserved the vitriol ?
 
Hi Stegosaurus here

Its clear the team wanted to give Wilder a rogering and humble him.
 
Only those in and around the first team picture will know if it was personal. If it was me in their position then I would have gone out with more fire in my belly than for a normal game. Wilders undoing was his stubbornness and reluctance to change when things were not working. He also seemed to drive a wedge between himself and the players with some of his interviews. The constant deflection of blame from himself onto others and belittling of some players will have cut deep.
They certainly seemed up for it and were at another level in terms of tempo and attitude. I almost felt sorry for Boro at times because they were made to look distinctly average.
 
Davalon said:
He said on local radio that tactics played no part at all.

I disagree. We did a number on them imho.
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To be fair to Chris, there's a lot of managers who have lost matches and it was never their fault

I certainly do take the point that Wilder has left every club in a better spot than when he arrived and is still having to get a club to the top level to get a new chance there.

Meanwhile Lampard has nowhere near the managerial CV or record of getting results yet he's in his second big club job and why?

With a far lower budget, Chris pissed all over him whole both were in the Championship. Despite the gift of an unwarrented appointment at Chelsea, Chris still took 4 points off him that first season and far overachieved. Having been sacked, he's now given a chance at another big club. Everton. Wilder would have been a far better appointment. He's even got some affiliation with them. Aren't they his second team through some relations?

I've been critical of some of his conduct towards the end of his time, but I'd argue until the cows come home in his favour in terms of him being more deserving than some others. Even Jessie March. What's he done? Did alright in Austria, poot when he went to a big league. Valerian Ismael did well in Austria. I didn't see him touted for the Leeds job.
 
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There’s a time when you need a Wilder and a time when you don’t.

Tufty has a huge ego and came to rescue us, the love of his life, having never failed in management, with so much self-belief that it poured into everybody else and we soared - often high as a kite!

The problem became that he had never failed, so when it was clear that he was failing with us he didn’t know how to deal with it emotionally. He still loved us but couldn’t satisfy us any more.

Unfortunately, that self-belief was what the whole team was fuelled on, and we went into a vicious circle of defeats and collapsing confidence.

I think Tuesday night will improve Chris Wilder, both as a man and as a manager. He saw at first hand the love of his life having a great night out with a new bloke, and it really punched through that ego.

Now we’re on the march with our new guy, who makes us really happy in a very different way. Life moves on for all of us.

Magic isn’t Magic if it Happens Every Day.
 



How long did it take for Wilder to concede more than three goals in a league match for us, five years?

He's done it a lot sooner at Boro.
 
PeterNdlovu081 said:
That one finished 3-0 though.
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My old brain didn’t take in the “more than”!

After Southend we played better, but lost at Millwall to a late pen. Beer on the bus, coming from behind to beat Oxford with a Duffy free kick to James Wilson and we marched to 100 points with - as posted above - only fucking Walsall doing the double over us.

Funny this season, with its ups and downs still only Millwall have done the double on us so far. Maybe we find it particularly difficult when we come up against the “Wal”!
 
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