Super Cooper, Blades have got a keeper

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N20 Blade said:
His calmness reminds me of Tracey back in 1990. I loved the ovation from the Plymouth fans to him yesterday. He does the basics brilliantly plus the odd amazing save as he provided yesterday.
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I sent this post regarding Tracey in December so fully agree with you. With the replies received, make sure you you don't see him in the local bookies
 

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UddersBlade said:
Think they were probably concerned about how he may recover from his injury last season. No issues so far - he’s a great signing for us.
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Hadn't realised he has had bad injuries to both knees, but he looks mightily agile now. That save from Gnonto second half against Leeds was sheer world class
 
Silky Sabella said:
Interesting why no premiership clubs showed an interest in signing him 🤔
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Maybe they did? Realistically, though, I can't think of any PL clubs where he would be first choice, and assured of PL football next season. I expect Leeds will sniff around if we don't get promoted. If Cooper has saved us 7-8 pts (conservative) their keeper has cost them some, for sure.
 
I was in Loftus Road early, before 2 o’clock. Cooper’s training was relentless all the way for about 45 minutes. Really detailed, repeated work on kicking, gradually getting further up the pitch for instance. He probably had less to do during the game, but you could clearly see what an exceptionally athletic and well-positioned goalkeeper he is.
 
For this position, probably gone from the worst signing we've ever had to the best signing we've ever had. Big statement, but when you're picking up points all through the season via 1 goal, he could well be the reason we go up. Outstanding keeper and no doubt for me currently that he'll be in the England squad in the future.
 
'If" we fail to go up you'd think we can keep him for another season, but at what price would we think mmm that's a lot of money?
We paid £2 million, so if an offer for £20 million was made, that's a huge profit after 12 months. Then again he's on a long contract and to me looks better than Ramsdale ever did, so you'd hope nearer £30 million would be the it's too much to turn down.
 
We are benefiting from our general unpopularity in the media a bit here. He doesn’t seem to make many lists when talking about “best young players outside the Premier League”, it doesn’t feel like he is constantly being talked about, in fact the lad playing for the dark side gets more positive mentions (not going to assassinate him as I think he is decent, but is nowhere near Cooper in terms of ability).
Not to say that this is the case within the game of course, but in some ways I am glad everyone isn’t talking about him, or Peck, or Seriki.
 
N20 Blade said:
Maybe they did? Realistically, though, I can't think of any PL clubs where he would be first choice, and assured of PL football next season. I expect Leeds will sniff around if we don't get promoted. If Cooper has saved us 7-8 pts (conservative) their keeper has cost them some, for sure.
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Chelsea , Newcastle , Man Utd , Bournemouth, Wolves , Fulham, Spurs .
Would you swap any of their keepers for Cooper ? I wouldn’t regardless of the price tags .
As ever UTB !
 
crazyblade1889 said:
Hes got all the attributes to go right to the top. I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t rack up 30+ England senior caps.
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Not a chance he plays 30 games for England 🤣 .
He's already 25yrs old and has never played for England at any level

Goalkeepers who have made their England debut at 25 or older in the last 30yrs are below. Brackets show how many caps they made:
  • Sam Johnstone, 28 (4)
  • Alex McCarthy, 28 (1)
  • Nick Pope, 26 (10)
  • Tom Heaton, 30 (3)
  • Fraser Forser, 25 (6)
  • John Ruddy, 25 (1)
  • Chris Kirkland, 25 (1)
  • Rob Green, 25 (12)
  • David James, 26 (53)
David James is the outlier in the list in that all the others never reached 15 caps, and only 2 others made double figures.

Only 10 goalkeepers have played 30+ games for England. Their debut age is in brackets:
  • Jordan Pickford (23)
  • Joe Hart (21)
  • Paul Robinson (23)
  • David James (26)
  • David Seaman (25)
  • Chris Woods (25)
  • Ray Clemence (24)
  • Peter Shilton (21)
  • Gordon Banks (25)
  • Ron Springett (24)
Over the last 15 years, we've seen some goalkeepers make their debuts for England who were tipped to become #1 and it never materialised.
  • Aaron Ramsdale, debut at 23. (5 caps)
  • Dean Henderson, debut at 23. (2 caps)
  • Jack Butland, debut at 19. (9 caps)
  • Scott Carson, debut at 22. (4 caps)
As good as Cooper is, I'll be surprised if he makes a single appearance for England. He definitely won't make double figures
 
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BrayfordsBushyBeard said:
Chelsea , Newcastle , Man Utd , Bournemouth, Wolves , Fulham, Spurs .
Would you swap any of their keepers for Cooper ? I wouldn’t regardless of the price tags .
As ever UTB !
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But he can't beat three men and cross it with either foot... So why would Man Utd, or particularly Chelsea want him?!

Funny though, as he's literally better than their keepers.

The other clubs have better keepers than the richest on your list.
 
mattbianco1 said:
Not a chance he plays 30 games for England 🤣 .
He's already 25yrs old and has never played for England at any level

Goalkeepers who have made their England debut at 25 or older in the last 30yrs are below. Brackets show how many caps they made:
  • Sam Johnstone, 28 (4)
  • Alex McCarthy, 28 (1)
  • Nick Pope, 26 (10)
  • Tom Heaton, 30 (3)
  • Fraser Forser, 25 (6)
  • John Ruddy, 25 (1)
  • Chris Kirkland, 25 (1)
  • Rob Green, 25 (12)
  • David James, 26 (53)
David James is the outlier in the list in that all the others never reached 15 caps, and only 2 others made double figures.

Only 10 goalkeepers have played 30+ games for England. Their debut age is in brackets:
  • Jordan Pickford (23)
  • Joe Hart (21)
  • Paul Robinson (23)
  • David James (26)
  • David Seaman (25)
  • Chris Woods (25)
  • Ray Clemence (24)
  • Peter Shilton (21)
  • Gordon Banks (25)
  • Ron Springett (24)
Over the last 15 years, we've seen some goalkeepers make their debuts for England who were tipped to become #1 and it never materialised.
  • Aaron Ramsdale, debut at 23. (5 caps)
  • Dean Henderson, debut at 23. (2 caps)
  • Jack Butland, debut at 19. (9 caps)
  • Scott Carson, debut at 22. (4 caps)
As good as Cooper is, I'll be surprised if he makes a single appearance for England. He definitely won't make double figures
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So who do you think will replace Pickford from the existing crop of English goalies?

I only see Trafford at Burnley who has arguably more potential. Both not ready now - but let’s see how they do in the Premier League under real pressure. However, I see both as Premier League regulars for established Prem Teams in the next couple of years..

Footnote……totally forgot about the next Gordon Banks at the Pigs who was apparently going to be unbeatable for them this season…. He will of course be the next England No 1 for the next 10 years!!!!!
 
mattbianco1 said:
Not a chance he plays 30 games for England 🤣 .
He's already 25yrs old and has never played for England at any level

Goalkeepers who have made their England debut at 25 or older in the last 30yrs are below. Brackets show how many caps they made:
  • Sam Johnstone, 28 (4)
  • Alex McCarthy, 28 (1)
  • Nick Pope, 26 (10)
  • Tom Heaton, 30 (3)
  • Fraser Forser, 25 (6)
  • John Ruddy, 25 (1)
  • Chris Kirkland, 25 (1)
  • Rob Green, 25 (12)
  • David James, 26 (53)
David James is the outlier in the list in that all the others never reached 15 caps, and only 2 others made double figures.

Only 10 goalkeepers have played 30+ games for England. Their debut age is in brackets:
  • Jordan Pickford (23)
  • Joe Hart (21)
  • Paul Robinson (23)
  • David James (26)
  • David Seaman (25)
  • Chris Woods (25)
  • Ray Clemence (24)
  • Peter Shilton (21)
  • Gordon Banks (25)
  • Ron Springett (24)
Over the last 15 years, we've seen some goalkeepers make their debuts for England who were tipped to become #1 and it never materialised.
  • Aaron Ramsdale, debut at 23. (5 caps)
  • Dean Henderson, debut at 23. (2 caps)
  • Jack Butland, debut at 19. (9 caps)
  • Scott Carson, debut at 22. (4 caps)
As good as Cooper is, I'll be surprised if he makes a single appearance for England. He definitely won't make double figures
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Considering some of the more recent names on there, many of which have spent decent amounts of time as second/third choice, a run out in a friendly at some point over the next 5 years isn't out of the question, certainly a bench spot without getting on.

Realistically though, Pickford is now hitting his goalkeeping peak at 30 and might keep his spot for another few years yet so like you say, double figures is pretty unlikely with people like Pope and Henderson still ahead of him in the queue if Pickford is unavailable.
 

UddersBlade said:
So who do you think will replace Pickford from the existing crop of English goalies?
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If Pickford retired in say 2yrs, you'd expect Trafford or Henderson. I wouldn't say Pope as he's the same age as Pickford.

Be interesting to keep an eye out with Brighton over the next couple of seasons too. Rushworth will be pushing for #1 soon, or he'll be off.

Also, since Trafford has been in the full England squad, Beadle has started the last 3 England u21 games.

If Pickford retired tomorrow however, you'd have to say it's Pope, Henderson and Trafford would be the 3 for the forseeable
 
mattbianco1 said:
If Pickford retired in say 2yrs, you'd expect Trafford or Henderson. I wouldn't say Pope as he's the same age as Pickford.

Be interesting to keep an eye out with Brighton over the next couple of seasons too. Rushworth will be pushing for #1 soon, or he'll be off.

Also, since Trafford has been in the full England squad, Beadle has started the last 3 England u21 games.

If Pickford retired tomorrow however, you'd have to say it's Pope, Henderson and Trafford would be the 3 for the forseeable
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I’d say Cooper has a higher ceiling than Henderson. Always thought Henderson had a mistake in him which I haven’t seen from Cooper.
Pope is 32. He’s older than Pickford so I don’t see how he is a replacement over the Pickford for long term.
I’d say it’s a toss up between Trafford and Cooper right now for the long term England number 1 but I think if Trafford had Robinson in front of him he’d have conceded more than Cooper has this season.
 
mattbianco1 said:
Not a chance he plays 30 games for England 🤣 .
He's already 25yrs old and has never played for England at any level

Goalkeepers who have made their England debut at 25 or older in the last 30yrs are below. Brackets show how many caps they made:
  • Sam Johnstone, 28 (4)
  • Alex McCarthy, 28 (1)
  • Nick Pope, 26 (10)
  • Tom Heaton, 30 (3)
  • Fraser Forser, 25 (6)
  • John Ruddy, 25 (1)
  • Chris Kirkland, 25 (1)
  • Rob Green, 25 (12)
  • David James, 26 (53)
David James is the outlier in the list in that all the others never reached 15 caps, and only 2 others made double figures.

Only 10 goalkeepers have played 30+ games for England. Their debut age is in brackets:
  • Jordan Pickford (23)
  • Joe Hart (21)
  • Paul Robinson (23)
  • David James (26)
  • David Seaman (25)
  • Chris Woods (25)
  • Ray Clemence (24)
  • Peter Shilton (21)
  • Gordon Banks (25)
  • Ron Springett (24)
Over the last 15 years, we've seen some goalkeepers make their debuts for England who were tipped to become #1 and it never materialised.
  • Aaron Ramsdale, debut at 23. (5 caps)
  • Dean Henderson, debut at 23. (2 caps)
  • Jack Butland, debut at 19. (9 caps)
  • Scott Carson, debut at 22. (4 caps)
As good as Cooper is, I'll be surprised if he makes a single appearance for England. He definitely won't make double figures
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I know many Blades who would have laughed at the thought of Maguire playing 60+ games for England when he was in league 1 for us.
 
crazyblade1889 said:
I’d say Cooper has a higher ceiling than Henderson. Always thought Henderson had a mistake in him which I haven’t seen from Cooper.
Pope is 32. He’s older than Pickford so I don’t see how he is a replacement over the Pickford for long term.
I’d say it’s a toss up between Trafford and Cooper right now for the long term England number 1 but I think if Trafford had Robinson in front of him he’d have conceded more than Cooper has this season.
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Trafford is a decent shot stopper but poor at dealing with high balls into a crowded area , as he demonstrated on a number of occasions last season .

Michael Cooper is excellent in both respects and if we were to be offered a straight swap , I would have no hesitation in turning it down .
 
Silky Sabella said:
I sent this post regarding Tracey in December so fully agree with you. With the replies received, make sure you you don't see him in the local bookies
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I will never forget Harry Bassett saying Tracey had the brains of a rocking-horse 🤣
 
best keeper weve had since alan kelly if we dont go up this season premier league clubs will be in for him
 
Coops is a top keeper and we got an unbelievable deal when he signed. A good half-season in the PL and he will be in a England squad.
 
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