Stupid prices

[Rodders]

7 pages on and I’m going to make a radical suggestion:

Maybe the players/agents (across football not just SUFC) should be paid a little bit less?

 

[snootyfenooty]

To add to that, the £36 extra on top of the "twenty's plenty" would be can be achieved by only spending £8 on beer. Or, perish the thought, it is possible to watch football WITHOUT drinking beer.

Don't forget the pies and the programme. I've bought neither for about 50 fucking years. No wonder I'm "rich".

 

[Sean Thornton]

7 pages on and I’m going to make a radical suggestion:

Maybe the players/agents (across football not just SUFC) should be paid a little bit less?

 

[Snowman]

Just a question to you here. Why is £30 on the kop ridiculous? Are we paying to watch the team or paying for a view? Because if it’s the latter, there are other areas with a better view.

I pay to see goals. The rest is a bonus. I pay to be entertained. The view is secondary, tertiary even.

No science about it, or even arguable sense.It's just that when I worra lad you went where you could afford or to be part of a laugh with your mates. At 13 when mi dad was paying it was the Kop or nowt. In my 20's it was the same. It was the most affordable part of the ground with the least "facilities". I tend to think, once again with no socio-economic evidence to back this up, that a Kop should be affordable to those with less cash and £30 for some one struggling seems a bit of a chunk.

 

[LS16Blade]

"When tickets were 20-25 quid and we had those C games where it was a tenner, attendences were up at 28k on week nights."

The Ipswich game was if I remember correctly, the release day of the 120 years shirt and may have been part of a two ticket deal with the Pigs game the home match before.

Yes, there was a 'two ticket deal' for the Pigs match that season. When buying the a ticket for the Derby, fans also had to buy a ticket for either the Ipswich game or the Donny game on the Saturday of the same week.

We had 26,111 in for the Donny game which included 2,329 away fans, and 28,366 in for Ipswich with just 759 away fans. The Donny gate, with 23/24,000 home fans in attendance, was squarely in line with the majority of our gates that season. The Ipswich gate, meanwhile, was the second highest of the season and the 27,577 home tickets sold was the highest number of home fans at a match that season - there were only 26,254 home tickets sold for the actual Derby.

The £10 ticket would appear, therefore, to have been attractive to the floaters/pay on the day fans, even for a game against Ipswich on a Tuesday night.

 

[I should coco]

And we can’t on one hand expect the board to pay for quality players and on the other expect cheap tickets.

#It'stheboard'sjob

#themoneytree

#weer'smunnehgone?

 

[Pedro's Winger]

The prices are too high and for the difference they make in terms of income compared to lower prices and bigger crowds it's hardly worth it.
It doesn't seem that long ago kop tickets were about £20 and now they're above £30. In the corresponding period, average wages have probably gone up about 5 per cent.

 

[Sean Thornton]

#It'stheboard'sjob

#themoneytree

#weer'smunnehgone?

And the launch of the anniversary shirt?

 

[TJB.]

it is possible to watch football WITHOUT drinking beer.

Don't you think there's enough bollocks spouted on here without you coming along and speaking this foolishness?

 

[sheafviewblade]

We are very competative , its soccer thats gone daft .

Soccer?

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Soccer?

I’ll field this one.

That’s a game played by 8 year old girls in America.

 

[BusheyBlade]

Don't you think there's enough bollocks spouted on here without you coming along and speaking this foolishness?

Agreed, I shall now hang my head in shame. How many times do I have to watch a video of 5 hours of Dean Hammond's unseen work?

 

[TJB.]

a video of 5 hours of Dean Hammond's unseen work

 

[GrayBlade]

Where do you sit pal?

Directors box I’m guessing.

 

[Ecco1889]

How long since we scrapped cat C matches?
The club used to do 1or 2 games per season @£10 adults,£5 kids,to give people/families on low income the opportunity to attend

 

[nicksufc]

How long since we scrapped cat C matches?
The club used to do 1or 2 games per season @£10 adults,£5 kids,to give people/families on low income the opportunity to attend

Yep; real shame they have scrapped those altogether and made the likes of Preston at home a Category A match - meaning you're going to be paying at least £27 to watch us play a nothing team that we seem to face about 4 times a season.

While ever we have 6-8,000 empty seats for every home game, nobody could possible claim we have reached the 'optimum' pricing strategy. Surely the optimum prices would mean we sell just enough seats to sell the stadium out?

As others have illustrated above, in previous years lowering the prices to £10 has given a huge boost to attendances. I just can't believe it's beyond us to at least have a few games a season at that price, or at worst to ensure our cheapest ticket against middling teams like Preston isn't £27.

Although the headlines in recent years have all been about us maintaining our ticket prices or only increasing them slightly, in reality by scrapping Category C matches and discounts for Blades Members then prices have actually risen steadily and consistently.

EDIT: Here's an idea. Why not allow everyone on the database to attend one or two games a season for a tenner? Obviously discounting home games against Wednesday, Leeds and Villa. I reckon you would see a steady rise in attendance for every home game. Gives more people the chance to go without leaving ST holders shortchanged.

 

[snootyfenooty]

While ever we have 6-8,000 empty seats for every home game, nobody could possible claim we have reached the 'optimum' pricing strategy. Surely the optimum prices would mean we sell just enough seats to sell the stadium out?

Optimum pricing is not about selling out, its about maximising ticket revenue. United have about 11000 tickets on general sale every game. Selling 5000 at £30 is going to bring in more revenue than 11000 at a tenner. Therefore 24k for a Cat A game is optimal pricing whereas 28k for one of the old Cat C games is not.

 

[nicksufc]

Optimum pricing is not about selling out, its about maximising ticket revenue. United have about 11000 tickets on general sale every game. Selling 5000 at £30 is going to bring in more revenue than 11000 at a tenner. Therefore 24k for a Cat A game is optimal pricing whereas 28k for one of the old Cat C games is not.

Nobody is saying make the Category A games a tenner, which is what your example alludes to.

My personal gripe is making the likes of Preston at home £27-£33 a ticket. That's a bit of a joke really.

 

[COME BACK CHED]

Soccer?

Why not, Toga footie lakin footba owt you want , a little pedantic are we today ?

 

[WalkelyFan]

Went down to Bramall Lane this morning to buy a ticket for a friend from Hull who is coming over this weekend. I am a season ticket holder of long-standing over 35,000 loyalty points - over 70 years of age and so is my friend. I cannot buy a ticket for him unless I know a registered person who has 200 loyalty points. I know the people sat round me, and a couple of others - but they are all season ticket holders. How am I supposed to know someone who attends games occasionally? One seat sale lost. Ludicrous.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Yep; real shame they have scrapped those altogether and made the likes of Preston at home a Category A match - meaning you're going to be paying at least £27 to watch us play a nothing team that we seem to face about 4 times a season.

While ever we have 6-8,000 empty seats for every home game, nobody could possible claim we have reached the 'optimum' pricing strategy. Surely the optimum prices would mean we sell just enough seats to sell the stadium out?

As others have illustrated above, in previous years lowering the prices to £10 has given a huge boost to attendances. I just can't believe it's beyond us to at least have a few games a season at that price, or at worst to ensure our cheapest ticket against middling teams like Preston isn't £27.

Although the headlines in recent years have all been about us maintaining our ticket prices or only increasing them slightly, in reality by scrapping Category C matches and discounts for Blades Members then prices have actually risen steadily and consistently.

EDIT: Here's an idea. Why not allow everyone on the database to attend one or two games a season for a tenner? Obviously discounting home games against Wednesday, Leeds and Villa. I reckon you would see a steady rise in attendance for every home game. Gives more people the chance to go without leaving ST holders shortchanged.

The examples earlier don't show a huge boost in attendance. Generally the best you could hope for was around the average for the season. No doubt gates were higher due to the pricing but it's unlikely the club was better off. A point which quite a few seem to be missing. See Bradford City now.

 

[jt64]

Wonder whether there's any value in trialling what Derby do (did?) - we know that we have, say, 8k tickets available after the season tickets have gone. The first 2k get sold quite a lot cheaper than what they are right now, the next 2k a little bit cheaper, the following 2k at about the same as now or slightly more, and the remainder are pricier again

Sure there'll be some people saying that they don't know their shifts until 45 minutes before kickoff and it's not fair but overall it'll get more people in I'd have thought

 

[nicksufc]

The examples earlier don't show a huge boost in attendance. Generally the best you could hope for was around the average for the season. No doubt gates were higher due to the pricing but it's unlikely the club was better off. A point which quite a few seem to be missing. See Bradford City now.

The Ipswich match did, right? We have limited data, but they generally all drew in an extra few thousand on the gate.

Better off in what sense? They may not have got promoted, but they're getting more people through the gate than ever before and are on a sound financial footing after years of administration.

 

[Sean Thornton]

The Ipswich match did, right? We have limited data, but they generally all drew in an extra few thousand on the gate.

Better off in what sense? They may not have got promoted, but they're getting more people through the gate than ever before and are on a sound financial footing after years of administration.

The reasons for the Ipswich gate are discussed above. The others only generally achieved a "normal" attendance. There was no "huge" uptake.



Bradford City have good gates but have no money to invest. Their fans aren't happy.

They haven't been in administration for years.

 

[snootyfenooty]

Nobody is saying make the Category A games a tenner, which is what your example alludes to.

No it's not, read it again. I was attempting to explain the principle of optimal pricing. If you get it right you can get more (income) for less (paying spectators).

 

[United Aren't Back.]

This one amused me. The £44 on top of your admission costs works out at 10 pints each (spoons on Eccy Road before you ask). Oh well, each to their own.



There's always one. If you buy a seat right behind a pillar (there's only two), next time I suggest you bash your head against it

Only two pillars.
In 2018.
Magnificent.
I'll offer them 40 pounds for a seat behind one.

 

[awblade]

Price of football for the fans is becoming a joke. And is a reason I will not be doing many away matches this season. I can afford it, but I'm not being taken for a mug. With this stance I've missed a few big games last few seasons, where there has been an outcry at the price but we have still sold out allocation

I've got a season ticket on the kop, which is an acceptable price, but no chance I would pay these prices for single tickets.

It wasn't long ago that we were all taking the piss of Wednesdays high ticket prices. Now look at this thread

 

[MMBUTB]

Most expensive ticket is £35 for our top category?

It's hardly Arsenal pricing...

Might not be Arsenal but that’s hardly an argument.

£35 is a disgrace.

We will pay it because we love it so much. The trouble is they know this and that’s the problem. It’s never a purchase made with the head its made with the heart. In other words you have no choice. (It’s on par with watching your kids in the Christmas play)

Prem = £30
Championship = £25
League 1 = £20
Anything below that less than £20.

 

[GV Blade]

This one amused me. The £44 on top of your admission costs works out at 10 pints each (spoons on Eccy Road before you ask). Oh well, each to their own.



There's always one. If you buy a seat right behind a pillar (there's only two), next time I suggest you bash your head against it

Drinking 10 pint between us before and after the match - is, what it will cost im afraid.
The drink before and after the match is part of the day out for me.
Not only that, theres usually a couple of £7 taxi fares involved too, not including any grub !
Its an expensive do. £120 for the two of us was maybe a conservative estimate !

 

[raul]

Anyone know how our ticket prices compare to Bradford City?