Stoke Match Thread

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Rubbishhh!!
Missed the first goal as i was just getting in, almost missed the second goal because someone was in my seat and the 3rd goal looked a mile offside:)
But at least we had about 2 shots on target!
 

What a complete and utter joke!! That is an extreme understatement, to be honest I can't think of anything to say about tonight without thrashing out swear words left right and centre...
 
I agree too. I could see actually see us losing tonight and winning Saturday(opposite to what you'd expect really).
Looks like im half way to being right.

Terrible performance:(
 
Robbo Quote

A snippet of his post match interview taken from http://www.sufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Reactions/0,,10418~1183420,00.html

Bryan Robson said:
"They score from what was in a nightmare start, although I thought the lads were looking lively and confident before the first goal went in."

Didn't the first goal go in after only 90 seconds?

Even on my worst days at work, I can usually manage more than 90 seconds of liveliness and confidence!

:D:D:D
 
Don't think fans are to blame to be honest. More to do with how we seem to have a good away game plan but are still to formulate a good attacking game plan for the home games.
Still does nobody agree with me?
 
Still does nobody agree with me?

I think the plan is there, its just it never seems to come off and gets abandoned early doors (which obviously means the plan/personell/performances need to change)

Certainly need big changes in home performance. I can't believe we can be so different home and away. Alright we've not always been making hatfuls of chances away from home, but we've certainly not been as bad as that, especially in the last few weeks!

On a plus note, it was good to meet MAQ for the first time last night!
 
I'm going to sound stupid here, but I don't care...

I was more pissed off with the second half than the first, because if you're 3-0 down at half time you expect them to come out all guns blazing, but at home our team have nothing. Nothing at all.

I can't explain it, anyone who has seen us away in the last month compared to at home will see, it's just pathetic the difference in standard.

Also, what the hell is our pitch? I'm not saying it cost us the game, but my god our pitch is awful! The ball bobbles all over the place and the pitch just cuts up everywhere. It needs sorting out.
 
I think the plan is there, its just it never seems to come off and gets abandoned early doors (which obviously means the plan/personell/performances need to change)

Certainly need big changes in home performance. I can't believe we can be so different home and away. Alright we've not always been making hatfuls of chances away from home, but we've certainly not been as bad as that, especially in the last few weeks!

On a plus note, it was good to meet MAQ for the first time last night!
Damn right Foxy, except that I don't think the plan was there. I said we needed "to formulate a good attacking game plan for the home games" - and playing with one striker we're never going to consistently create enough chances to score an average of 2 goals per home game.

The game plan last night looked to be the same as away, what do you reckon? The problem with that is home teams usually look to attack visitors and away teams usually look to absorb pressure and catch the opposition on the break - precisely why a team like us, who aren't out-footballing their opposition, needs to have a home game plan and an away one which was my original point. But no, it's the fans fault, apparently. ;)
 
On a plus note, it was good to meet MAQ for the first time last night!

as mentioned on the other thread great to put faces to names and to actually speak to them aswell.

Thanks to all for the warm welcome :D

Match was bad, really really bad. We did look interested in the second half, but too little too late
 
There is no escaping the fact that we were terrible and failed to score for the second consecutive home match, it was all over after 10 minutes and any game plan that we had went right out of the window.

I have heard a few people knocking Robbo for the formation but what kind of message would it send out to the players that have taken 6 points from two tough away games if he went and dropped any of them?

The sight of an almost empty Bramall lane with 5/10 mins to go brought back memories of dark days gone by and i have to admit that last night i thought for the first time that i wished i had not bothered rushing about after work to get to the game.

No blame can be apportioned to the fans, it all went tits up after 10 minutes and we never looked like getting back into the game. The substitutions had no effect and at times the lack of ideas by our boys was an embaressment.

Lets hope we can get back on track against Norwich.
 
I have heard a few people knocking Robbo for the formation but what kind of message would it send out to the players that have taken 6 points from two tough away games if he went and dropped any of them?
You pick a team to do a job, not to keep players happy. Prime example being last season, CKR gets man of the match for the home games and warms the bench for the away games. I guess that's where man-management comes in.

"Horses for courses", Harry called it.
 
You pick a team to do a job, not to keep players happy. Prime example being last season, CKR gets man of the match for the home games and warms the bench for the away games. I guess that's where man-management comes in.

"Horses for courses", Harry called it.

I disagree, you should never change a winning team in my opinion. 4-4-2 didn't go down too well against plymouth and i doubt it would have made much difference when you consider the nature of the goals that we conceeded last night. After changing the formation we looked just as inept and have done whenever we have played with 2 forwards this season.

I am not saying that we should play with 1 up front at home from here on in but following 2 massive wins you have to show faith with the players that have perfomed.

Robson, like Warnock before him, has faced massive criticism for chopping and changing his starting line up. Showing faith in a winning side is commendable and i find it difficult to criticise him for this; the performance on the other hand...
 
2 massive wins? coventry we were very poor.

to play 4- 5 -1 against a team who love it in the air is just nonsense. We played them the other week and know how they play, so we just played into there hands. From going from 4-4-2 against plymouth to 4-5-1 against stoke shows that he hasn't got a clue what to do.
We thought warnock was bad with changing things but this is getting beyond a joke.



Robson makes warnock look like a tactical genius! Get rid before january, there is still hope yet!
 
Sorry Jodman, I can't agree at all. "You should never change a winning team"? That's quite a statement.

Also, yes we changed formations last night at least 3 times but by the time of the first change the damage was done and Stoke were able to lock the back door and frustrate us.
 

you should never play 4-5-1 at home its just wrong..... lumping up field when they have a huge team is just playing into Stoke's hands.

Cant believe it at moment. Probably win away on Saturday.
 
2 massive wins? coventry we were very poor.

Did i mention the performance? I said that we had 2 massive wins.

But now that you mention it, i couldn't give a toss about the performances as long as we win. Once we get a winning mentality and a bit of confidence, then we can try and play the ball about a bit; you can't run before you can walk.

I find it baffling that you can grumble that robbo has changed the formation from the plymouth match (which we lost and played terribly) but in the same breath complain that he didn't change it after the last 2 away games (which we won and didn't conceed a goal).

Do you want him to chop and change or not?!
 
Sorry Jodman, I can't agree at all. "You should never change a winning team"? That's quite a statement.

Perhaps you're right, its not so much that i agree with the 4-5-1 but i can see why he chose to keep the faith with the team / formation that had seen us take 6 points from 2 difficult away games on the bounce.

We were crap and Robbo is as much to blame as anyone but i don't think he should be criticised for sticking with the winning team.
 
Perhaps you're right, its not so much that i agree with the 4-5-1 but i can see why he chose to keep the faith with the team / formation that had seen us take 6 points from 2 difficult away games on the bounce.

I can see the point of sticking with same team/formation that has been so good to us in the last 2 away games.

But thats the main point, these were away games, and whilst I didn't agree with going with the formation originally, it worked and got us 6 vital points.

Home games, the onus should be changing more to attacking, not this negative minded 4-5-1. We should not be looking to invite teams on to us at home.

I do firmly believe in keeping the same team as a whole, but sometimes things have to change to keep the continuance of results. I believe we would have been better equipped going in to the game at 4-4-2, drop Tonge and bring in Stead. Stead would also have helped at back for any set pieces they had because of his height. We all know how Stoke are going to play, who can blame them either? It works for them.

But we were playing in to their hands if we believe playing wingers was going to work.
 
I can see the point of sticking with same team/formation that has been so good to us in the last 2 away games.

But thats the main point, these were away games, and whilst I didn't agree with going with the formation originally, it worked and got us 6 vital points.

Home games, the onus should be changing more to attacking, not this negative minded 4-5-1. We should not be looking to invite teams on to us at home.

I do firmly believe in keeping the same team as a whole, but sometimes things have to change to keep the continuance of results. I believe we would have been better equipped going in to the game at 4-4-2, drop Tonge and bring in Stead. Stead would also have helped at back for any set pieces they had because of his height. We all know how Stoke are going to play, who can blame them either? It works for them.

But we were playing in to their hands if we believe playing wingers was going to work.

Very well put, i think that just about sums up my feeling on the matter too.
 

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