Steve Cooper

[Gyp the blade]

Get sloth in now plays proper football
If we had him instead of wilder we would still be in prem. Vinny is quality wilder doesn’t know how to play quality

 

[nopigfansintown]

It's hard to understand the clamour for Cooper. His Forest team were more than a bit fortunate to get promoted. Despite us laying an egg in the first leg we still should've gone through. They should also have lost the final.

His "management" of Forest in the Prem was one of the biggest clusterfucks I've ever seen. I don't have the words for how somebody could make that set of players look that bad.
At Forest he thought you could win games in the Prem with you defenders ring fencing your sixteen yard box and your strikers simultaneously doing the same at the other end. Suicide football. If he couldn't do it with a King's ransom there what makes people think he could do it here?!

To counter my own argument, he did a good job at Swansea and a decent job to get Forest in tne play offs in the first place.

 

[steve26272]

.His "management" of Forest in the Prem was one of the biggest clusterfucks I've ever seen. I don't have the words for how somebody could make that set of players look that bad.

Interesting take, as I actually think he did a great job

30 new players in, mostly the mentalist owners supermarket sweep

Finished above Everton Southampton Leicester and Leeds 1st season up - and we’ve seen how tricky that is - Burnley more alike than us

Previously took Forest up from relegation zone, Swansea x2 playoffs, won u17 World Cup

Only blot is getting sacked this season, when forest were 17th, replaced by Nuno who….. finished 17th

 

[fifty shades of blade]

It's a no for me as he would put me off my food

 

[Bell4]

Beaty is in the eye of the beholder

I find him quite handsome tbh - but then I am from a family where sleepy eye syndrome is prevalent

 

[Flumps]

It's a no for me as he would put me off my food

Soooo does that mean at present you watch the match with pie in hand, one eye on Wilder and a raging boner?

 

[Kizmet]

I'd rather keep wilder than him. If we were looking elsewhere I'd rather have someone with more modern ideas

 

[The Fox]

Reading the comments on Coopers looks.....

There will come a time to all of us when we see a guy on TV who's younger than us , better looking than us , and drives a better car than us ......... and has a cat called Jess

 

[fifty shades of blade]

Soooo does that mean at present you watch the match with pie in hand, one eye on Wilder and a raging boner?

Bastard. You've found me out.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

The only reason Cooper would consider coming BDTBL is that it’s only 30 odd miles from his “beloved City Ground”…I guess (a little bit like Wilder) it doesn’t help your job prospects if you openly declare your undying love for a particular football club…It shouldn’t really matter to fans…but sadly it does.

 

[Half Bond Jls]

 

[Andy67]

Wilder Championship. 148 games, 235 points. 1.59ppg
Cooper Championship, 143 games, 245 points, 1.71ppg

Didn’t know his record was that good, I’ve changed my mind about Cooper

 

[Carlton Blade]

Didn’t know his record was that good, I’ve changed my mind about Cooper

I'd probably prefer Cooper to Wilder, purely because I think last years disaster isn't the sort of thing a manager comes back from. My only real point on the comparison was a response to Cooper being "a poor man's Wilder". I wasn't aware of how it would come out (that Cooper has a better record) but I was pretty sure that it would be close regardless.

The side that Cooper made from the disparate bunch of parts Forest had in 21/22 was very effective, as was the one that Wilder put together in 18/19. But Cooper had to figure things out on the fly after a season had started and put a system together that fit the players, rather than build a team over 3 seasons. I think that's more of what United need right now

 

[Slim Man]

There are few managers who have done what wilder did - his methods and tactics and achievements with the players he bought and the team he created , were lauded throughout Europe .

Suddenly , to many , he is a flop .

Carry on Chris

This was 4 years ago though…

 

[Booker4]

Reading the comments on Coopers looks.....

There will come a time to all of us when we see a guy on TV who's younger than us , better looking than us , and drives a better car than us ......... and has a cat called Jess

That's by far the best post I've read on here in a while! Told my wife who's not even a football fan and she laughed!

 

[Booker4]

I've said this on another post but Steve Cooper is on paper no better a choice than Scott Parker in my view and personally I'd rather have Scott Parker. Cooper spent a fortune at Forest to still be on the bottom three at Forest. Had they not sacked him I'm convinced Forest would now be on the Championship.

Parker has had two promotions with two different clubs and did ok with Fulham in the top flight. He was sacked early doors by Bournemouth and he was critical of the club's transfer policy which probably means he didnt have full say on it. Of lesser importance he's had a great playing career which can't do him any harm either with coaching players. Ok, he failed at Brugge but he was only there for twelve matches.

Also re Cooper, I just didn't like him when he managed Forest, he seemed to be full of himself whilst there , probably that went down well with Forest "the biggest club in the world" mentality.

I'd still rather stick with Wilder though regardless.

 

[SGBlade]

Don't think in my time supporting United I've known this much uncertainty in regards to the ownership, manager and player contracts! I can't remember too many times this up in the air anyway! I was hoping that one of the plus points to our fire season is that we'd have a head start on other teams because we have been able to plan for next season from February onwards this season, but now we just seem to be in total limbo! It's annoying that's it's off season so therefore there's no opportunity to ask Wilder either.

We're reliant on the likes of Alan Nixon to hear brief/vague snippets.

Yeah and I have to say it’s a worry. Uncertainty off the pitch and a huge shake up on it very rarely seem to equate to a great season. Although I guess it does happen. I recall when Burnley came down three years ago we all thought they we in the shit and they ended up walking the league.

Having said that, the chances for complete implosion are also increased dramatically. As we sit here today I’d be willing to write off a promotion push next season, as long as we use it to:
1) Put in place a proper, professional structure off the pitch: someone with DoF-type duties, radically increased scouting capabilities, experienced medical team, better comms and fan engagement
2) Bed in a new, young Manager (or properly back wilder - it’s uncertainty that’s always the issue)
3) Use the three windows to revitalise the squad, with an experienced championship spine and a back up of top young lower league signings
4) Give our good young lads a proper opportunity to prove themselves at a reasonable level ie the champ or quality league one loans (Blaster, Marsh, Brooks, Osula, Jebbo, One)
5) See good progress on infrastructure in terms of training ground, hotel and maybe some firms plans for a proper single tier, steep rake cop with safe standing.

Obviously this assumes new ownership gets done some time this summer.

 

[SGBlade]

FWIW I wouldn’t mind Cooper. But then again, if Wilder gets backed properly, I’d also fancy him in the champ.

My preferred option would be someone younger, who’s done a great job somewhere lower down the pyramid or abroad. To be fair to Wednesday, they did a great job finding Rohl. QPR the same.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

His stock still seems pretty high…Why would he come to us?

 

[Blade56]

Good credentials at spending big money and nearly getting religated.

 

[The Crab]

I've said this on another post but Steve Cooper is on paper no better a choice than Scott Parker in my view and personally I'd rather have Scott Parker. Cooper spent a fortune at Forest to still be on the bottom three at Forest. Had they not sacked him I'm convinced Forest would now be on the Championship.

Parker has had two promotions with two different clubs and did ok with Fulham in the top flight. He was sacked early doors by Bournemouth and he was critical of the club's transfer policy which probably means he didnt have full say on it. Of lesser importance he's had a great playing career which can't do him any harm either with coaching players. Ok, he failed at Brugge but he was only there for twelve matches.

Also re Cooper, I just didn't like him when he managed Forest, he seemed to be full of himself whilst there , probably that went down well with Forest "the biggest club in the world" mentality.

I'd still rather stick with Wilder though regardless.

He was only at Brugge for 12 games because he did a Weir-esque job with them. That league should be like shooting fish in a barrel. He missed the barrel never mind the fucking fish.

Yes his previous achievements are laudable. But ask your self why, since Brugge gave him the push, he hasn’t got another job?

As for Cooper being full of himself, our blades blinkers can hide the fact Wilder can be a bit of a gobshite too. The sandwich comment and “he’s talking to a premiership manager” was fucking embarrassing.

Time will tell and we will see. At the moment the takeover is all speculation and the only facts at present are that Prince Spent-up still owns us along with his stable of sides you’ve only ever heard of if you play a shitload of football manager, and we’ve got the only manager he could afford to bring back to turn us round.

The club and fans deserve better than the shit sandwich we are currently being served.

 

[The Crab]

FWIW I wouldn’t mind Cooper. But then again, if Wilder gets backed properly, I’d also fancy him in the champ.

My preferred option would be someone younger, who’s done a great job somewhere lower down the pyramid or abroad. To be fair to Wednesday, they did a great job finding Rohl. QPR the same.

Good point, Rohl and the QPR guy, unheralded but doing solid jobs. Can’t say I’ve heard of the guy who’s just got the Norwich job either. But that doesn’t matter, can they do the job, that’s the main criteria.

 

[GreasyChipBeattie]

To be fair to Wednesday, they did a great job finding Rohl. QPR the same.

Wow, I didn't know that. Rohl's going to clock some miles up next season then, bombing up and down the M1 all week.

 

[Superblades]

I'd probably prefer Cooper to Wilder, purely because I think last years disaster isn't the sort of thing a manager comes back from. My only real point on the comparison was a response to Cooper being "a poor man's Wilder". I wasn't aware of how it would come out (that Cooper has a better record) but I was pretty sure that it would be close regardless.

The side that Cooper made from the disparate bunch of parts Forest had in 21/22 was very effective, as was the one that Wilder put together in 18/19. But Cooper had to figure things out on the fly after a season had started and put a system together that fit the players, rather than build a team over 3 seasons. I think that's more of what United need right now

A tad unfair to say it took Wilder 3 seasons to build a team. He put together a title winning team in his first season. Granted it was in League One, but that was where we were at the time.

 

[Carlton Blade]

A tad unfair to say it took Wilder 3 seasons to build a team. He put together a title winning team in his first season. Granted it was in League One, but that was where we were at the time.

It wasn't a criticism. Just that it was Y3 when he got promoted from the Championship

 

[ancientblade]

Wow, I didn't know that. Rohl's going to clock some miles up next season then, bombing up and down the M1 all week.

lets see how rohl does next season when theres much more expectation from their fans already some on porktalk talking about top 6 and even top 2 i watched a few of their games in the last 3 months of the season and they were nothing special he just got them organised and more dangerous from set pieces if we make the right signings im confident we will finish above em next season utb ftp

 

[Flumps]

lets see how rohl does next season when theres much more expectation from their fans already some on porktalk talking about top 6 and even top 2 i watched a few of their games in the last 3 months of the season and they were nothing special he just got them organised and more dangerous from set pieces if we make the right signings im confident we will finish above em next season utb ftp

I would absolutely crawl in under the smallest rock if I have to eat my words hear but if Wednesday didn't have a Sheffield postcode they're the last team we would be worried about next season. No matter how much rubbish they spout that clubs aim next season is to not be relegated. I know alot of people on here don't want to hear it but our clubs aim next season should be setting sights on top 6 at a very minimum, top 2 should be the goal.

If it wasn't a derby, playing wednesday would just be another fixture in the calender. Fucking top 6 lol

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

Good credentials at spending big money and nearly getting religated.

To be fair to the lad, he had an owner who went on a football trolley dash and had the contents dumped on his kitchen floor and told to make something from that lot.

 

[ancientblade]

I would absolutely crawl in under the smallest rock if I have to eat my words hear but if Wednesday didn't have a Sheffield postcode they're the last team we would be worried about next season. No matter how much rubbish they spout that clubs aim next season is to not be relegated. I know alot of people on here don't want to hear it but our clubs aim next season should be setting sights on top 6 at a very minimum, top 2 should be the goal.

If it wasn't a derby, playing wednesday would just be another fixture in the calender. Fucking top 6 lol

couldnt agree more far too much doom and gloom mongerers on this site predicting we will be in a relegation battle i just dont see it for all the pigs bragging wearing their shirts and wearing shorts so people can see their stupid parrot tattoos on legs the bookies dont often get it wrong were 14s for promotion their 33s and 40s they think sausage roll is their wilder lets wait and see utb ftp

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Sounds like he might be Leicester bound. Decent move for him.