Step up McBurnie

[Andy67]

I'm really willing McBurnie to come good, because with letting Burke & Mousset out & the injuries to Brewster & McGoldrick we really, really need him to step up now.
It's too early to rely on a young Jebbison and with the volume of games an ageing Sharp (despite his heroics).

He's given us some signs of encouragement with his hold & link play. Now I want to see him getting between the posts and looking a goal threat a bit more.

He will come good if he doesn’t get injured.

 

[Andy67]

How many times has he started under Hecky's two stints in charge? He's getting 10-15 minutes at the end of some games. With our injury problems up top we'll probably see a bit more of him. But that's the only reason why.

Injuries too mcburnie fact.

 

[Cheesebored]

He started most of our games in the first Prem season. He started a good few in the second season but missed a lot through injury. It’s easy to just make stuff up…

He started regularly until it became obvious he wasn't as good as the management had hoped. So when fit and available pre and post covid why is he still viewed as a bit part player? We needed a goal scorer. His record with us says he isn't one.

 

[LewishamBlade]

Pot, kettle. Still backing Mcburnie to come good 2 years plus down the line. Admit you made a bad judgement call. There's no shame in that. No ill feelings towards the lad from me, he's just not very good. Up there with our worst ever bit of business. The lad needs a new club pronto, for the benefit of both parties.

Sooooo… the manager knows fuck all about football then?

 

[Houston_Blade]

A brace at the Sty affords many a crap performance to be overlooked !!

UTB

Correct, at least you know. He could have sat down on the pitch for the remainder of his time at the club and still left a hero.

 

[LewishamBlade]

He started regularly until it became obvious he wasn't as good as the management had hoped. So when fit and available pre and post covid why is he still viewed as a bit part player? We needed a goal scorer. His record with us says he isn't one.

His record pre us says he’s exactly that. In this very division.

And in his first season in the Prem with a lack of chances, it was a respectable tally to go with decent performances. We’ve used him as a kick it, head it battering ram for most of his time here, he’s never been that.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

Now I want to see him getting between the posts and looking a goal threat a bit more.

We all wouldn't mind that, except for a lot, he doesn't have the ability to do that.

You mention Jebbison - yes he is young, but the goal he scored v Everton and the ones he's scored for Burton are all about being a CF that takes chances. McB simply hasn't looked like repeating the ONE season form he showed at Swansea. he played in the middle and two quick skilful players either side of him - we've never played like that and CW tried to make him into a different type of player as CW tried also with Robinson and Burke - all have failed miserably.

We've helped to ruin McB - I doubt he has time now to change.

UTB

 

[LewishamBlade]

A brace at the Sty affords many a crap performance to be overlooked !!

UTB

What about being our top scorer for the season? Leon was rarely crap for us. Very rarely indeed. Your vendetta is odd.

 

[Cheesebored]

Sooooo… the manager knows fuck all about football then?

No. He picked Robinson last night and left Mcburnie on the bench (again). He clearly knows what's required to win certain matches. 4 changes to a winning team is a big call. It worked for him.

 

[knowsnowt]

Can't stand the twat, but....
I thought his passing and movement were good, though I'm oy judging that on the highlights.

 

[LewishamBlade]

No. He picked Robinson last night and left Mcburnie on the bench (again). He clearly knows what's required to win certain matches. 4 changes to a winning team is a big call. It worked for him.

He played Robinson out of necessity it’s not like he dropped Davies and brought McBurnie who’s recovering from injury/covid on (again) when he had other options, he’s literally recalled Jebbison.

 

[Andy67]

No. He picked Robinson last night and left Mcburnie on the bench (again). He clearly knows what's required to win certain matches. 4 changes to a winning team is a big call. It worked for him.

Squad rotation as you will see on the next game.

 

[Cheesebored]

His record pre us says he’s exactly that. In this very division.

And in his first season in the Prem with a lack of chances, it was a respectable tally to go with decent performances. We’ve used him as a kick it, head it battering ram for most of his time here, he’s never been that.

Aah, the old before coming to us line. He linked up play nicely once or twice last night but never looks like scoring. He spends long periods meandering around the corner flags instead of being a threat.

 

[Andy67]

Can't stand the twat, but....
I thought his passing and movement were good, though I'm oy judging that on the highlights.

Like or dislike as a person but he will come good

 

[Cheesebored]

Squad rotation as you will see on the next game.

Necessity through injuries you mean?

 

[Houston_Blade]

I was surprised that McBurnie didn't start ahead of McGoldrick, it's likely though that Hecky doesn't see him as this 'link man' that he's supposedly really good at and he's certainly got nothing on Billy Sharp, so where do you play him?

Now we've got MGW back to play the '10' role and I can't see him going with Billy and McBurnie up top. Jebbison is more likely to get the nod in my opinion if he drops Ndiaye. I've always wanted McB to do well (check back on my exchanges with DronnieBlade over the last 2 years on the subject), I've just now resigned myself to the fact that he's not a good enough number 9 to play in front of Billy, he's not a good enough number 10 to play in front of Didz/MGW/Ndiaye and him and Billy together just don't work.

I really hope I'm wrong and he forces his way into the team, I just can't see it.

 

[Bell4]

Our manager appears to disagree with you.

Doubt he disagrees that much

He’s kind of lumbered with him but he will man manage him the best he can to get a tune from him especially now we are losing players to injury .

Heckys main brief imo is get the wage bill down asap hence moose and Burke away - I think if any offer had come in for Oli Mac he would be down the road too

 

[Bell4]

What about being our top scorer for the season? Leon was rarely crap for us. Very rarely indeed. Your vendetta is odd.

There have been crap players over my 51 years of attending games

Leon comes nowhere close to that category

 

[William Large]

He was exactly that when he played with Barnsley and Swansea. Since he joined us he’s had two full seasons of having the ball smashed up to him.

Watch the video of the highlight thread of our build up play to the second goal. You might just be able to see what he brings.

I was there and saw it in person. Yes he was involved but he hardly created it.

 

[mattbianco1]

25 mins tonight. Ambled around and reverted to type. Zero influence on the game.

Was involved 5 (FIVE) times in the build up to the second goal. We made 25 passes with him being involved in a 5th of them

 

[LJBlade]

He started regularly until it became obvious he wasn't as good as the management had hoped. So when fit and available pre and post covid why is he still viewed as a bit part player? We needed a goal scorer. His record with us says he isn't one.

He started regularly throughout the first season. In the second season he was a regular starter until he got an injury, when he came back he started a good number of games until he got another injury. As pointed out, that management team were playing him the wrong way so if they came to the conclusion that he wasn't good enough then maybe they should look at themselves first and foremost. Having said that though, during those two Prem seasons he started 19 more games than Billy Sharp so was he really seen as a 'bit part player'?

It's not at all surprising that he's been a bit part player this season. It's been well documented that he's had to isolate several times because of Covid and he was out for a good while when he caught it himself. He's been fit enough to play for two games and he's appeared in both of them.

"His record with us..." I don't disagree but it goes back to what I said earlier. He's spent two and a bit seasons having the ball smashed up to him rather than him being used in a way which suits his strengths. When he played for Barnsley and Swansea they played the ball on the floor to him and his record with them was a much more positive outcome.

He's a much more similar player to someone like McGoldrick than someone like Andy Carroll, we spent the previous two seasons playing him like Andy Carroll.

 

[mattbianco1]

Some comments in this thread prove a lot about certain posters.

I'm convinced they wouldn't cheer if McBurnie scored

 

[LJBlade]

I was there and saw it in person. Yes he was involved but he hardly created it.

I didn't say he created it, though as an interesting question, who would you say created it? He had just as much input in that goal as any of the others who were involved.

I'm talking about the way in which he played during the build up to that goal. You might notice that not one single ball was played into him off the floor and as a result his touch and movement was excellent.

 

[mattbianco1]

I was there and saw it in person. Yes he was involved but he hardly created it. I was praying he'd be dispossessed every time the ball came to him.

Fixed it for you

 

[coolasanidiot]

Some comments in this thread prove a lot about certain posters.

I'm convinced they wouldn't cheer if McBurnie scored

That's wrong - we would cheer like mad and say to our mates - thank f*** because thats the way it it is. But for Jesus sake - you can't be serious in thinking hes anything other than dross. He's so flat footed it's ridiculous, he can't knock a ball past someone and go catch it because he's as slow as f***. He doesnt jump when try to challenge for the ball- we have a bought a grade 1 bag of sand.

If he scores great, but it's highly unlikely he'll be getting many cheers.

 

[Cheesebored]

He's a much more similar player to someone like McGoldrick than someone like Andy Carroll, we spent the previous two seasons playing him like Andy Carroll.

This is the crux of his problems. I agree he's not a target man. He's not a 10 either. He doesn't have the speed of body or thought to play that role. He's not a natural goal scorer, he takes up non goal scoring positions around the box. A rapidly deteriorating 34 year old was getting picked in front of him. What does he bring? Looks like he'll be getting more game time now due to injuries to other players. Let's all hope he comes good. I don't believe he will.

 

[Mojo]

He's been shite for 18 months now but certainly has it in him to contribute and has been improved in his last couple of games.

Everyone loves writing people off on here, Sharp, Brewster, Didzy, Mcburnie have all been written off as finished on here. Other day people were saying Didzy is done he shouldnt be playing, now he's injured everyone is shitting themselves. Talk about fickle. Why don't we just get behind everyone who is still here and try and spur them on. Reyt mardy fans we've become

 

[Cheesebored]

Was involved 5 (FIVE) times in the build up to the second goal. We made 25 passes with him being involved in a 5th of them

We've got Ndiaye, MGW, Mcgoldrick, Bogle and even Baldock to be creative around the area. He was bought to score goals. He doesn't do that.

 

[coolasanidiot]

He's been shite for 18 months now but certainly has it in him to contribute and has been improved in his last couple of games.

Everyone loves writing people off on here, Sharp, Brewster, Didzy, Mcburnie have all been written off as finished on here. Other day people were saying Didzy is done he shouldnt be playing, now he's injured everyone is shitting themselves. Talk about fickle. Why don't we just get behind everyone who is still here and try and spur them on. Reyt mardy fans we've become

Because McBurnie is proper rubbish. THe others you could tell there is something. With him , he's talentless, total waste- Madine was twice the player , how gauling.

 

[metalblade]

I thought he was ok ish tonight and nothing more. If he’s to be the ‘target man / big man up front’ he could do worse than learn from Andy Carroll first half.

I don’t think he’s a particularly creative player, I don’t think he’s going to score much more than a few headers or tap ins, he doesn’t really run the channels or worry defenders with pace or trickery.

So if he’s going to be the big man up front he needs to be a bit more robust. Give him credit in both of the last two games he got stuck in but is that really all we want from a forward?

Really Andy fucking Carroll the serial fouler, Christ.