"Stars" leaving before weekend......

[bertieblade]

We must realise that newspapers are in the business to sell papers and subsequently are quite within their rights to exaggerate headlines.
There is however no doubt in my opinion that the editorial team tend to slant headlines and articles to favour our city neighbours.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Right? You’ve lost me on your point. (If there even is one, which I doubt)

"Stars" suggests that it's going to be solid and good first teamers who will be leaving, not second rate bench warmers. I also think that the headline suggests it's a quote and Wilder didn't actually say what the headline says. Pedantic, but correct point.

 

[Sean Thornton]

It means a lot

"SeanThornton says he is my best friend admits Danny04 "

During a minor internet spat a sarcastic comment was replied to in an equally sarcastic way as if it was a compliment and then they both left it there, the Star can report.

0n other pages, a pre owned foot spa only £10.

 

[stringer]

"Stars" suggests that it's going to be solid and good first teamers who will be leaving, not second rate bench warmers. I also think that the headline suggests it's a quote and Wilder didn't actually say what the headline says. Pedantic, but correct point.

The headline’s paraphrasing his quote hence the single ‘ marks rather than “, if we’re being pedantic (and correct).
If it was Jordan Hallam and Tyler Smith leaving on loan, I’d take your point. These four are in the first-team squad

 

[mosbolad]

And the Blades chief said: “There’s a possibility one or two might leave on loan before Saturday.”

Happy to help, Thorny

No Danny! Blades Chief didn't 'said', he 'admits' he finally 'admits'! Godammit!!!.......

Only under the scrutiny of a journalist the likes of which we haven't seen since Woodward and Bernstein would we get our illustrious leader to 'admit' anything....

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Sheffield United: ‘Blades stars could leave on loan before weekend’ admits Lane chief Chris Wilder

Stars? Admits ? (despite it being common knowledge)



Said Chris Wilder nowhere in the article, despite the quotation marks.




Read more at: https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foo...kend-admits-lane-chief-chris-wilder-1-8977572

That is a poor headline, as the quotation is not a quote, and 'admits' is clearly a loaded word, suggesting something Wilder would rather keep quiet. 'Stars' is less of a problem, as Carruthers and Lavery are both included, and though they are last season's men, they were significant signings who carried lots of people's hopes. 2 points to add:
1. The headline is poor, but it is common practice, clearly hoping people will buy the paper thinking it is Fleck and Sharp on the way. And it not only sells papers - how often do we go to a thread on here to find that it has nothing to do with the title? It is human nature to try and make a fast buck or take the piss.
2. You have not accurately represented the Star's overall portrayal of United today (to be fair, you don't claim to have, but others are jumping on it as I imagine you knew they would). The print edition has a full page on McCabe and the way in which he has run United. Broadly positive, and including analysis of how United have re-established themselves as the top club in Sheffield. I recommend it.

 

[Billyblade]

Sensational headlines are the clickbait of the newspaper world.
Editors think that people will buy the paper after seeing the headline because they are desperate to find out the story behind it. What they fail to realise is that of those people that don't realise it is in fact utter bollocks, most of them will open the paper, read that the story is utter bollocks, put the paper back on the rack and go and buy a jazz mag (can you still get them or has PornHub killed that industry?!!!)

 

[mosbolad]

it was Jordan Hallam and Tyler Smith leaving on loan, I’d take your point. These four are in the first-team squad

Always rated those two Danny, where are they off to?......

 

[Sean Thornton]

paraphrase
ˈparəfreɪz/
verb
gerund or present participle: paraphrasing

1. express the meaning of (something written or spoken) using different words, especially to achieve greater clarity.
   
   
   Greater clarity?

 

[mosbolad]

Sheffield United: ‘Blades stars could leave on loan before weekend’ admits Lane chief Chris Wilder

Stars? Admits ? (despite it being common knowledge)



Said Chris Wilder nowhere in the article, despite the quotation marks.




Read more at: https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foo...kend-admits-lane-chief-chris-wilder-1-8977572

 

[ljk]

Not anywhere near as bad as this one:

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/01/2...s-cameron-carter-vickers-of-sulking-after-ex/

"not once, like Cam, has he sulked and come to me."

Wilder clearly means just like Cam, Jamal also didn't come and sulk. Article totally misunderstands what Wilder said and has our leader sniping at CCV!

Bloody hell, that's poor.

 

[stringer]

Always rated those two Danny, where are they off to?......

Anywhere that’ll offer 100k for the pair, into McCabe’s pocket! Amiright? It’ll pay for a new fax machine or re-painting the Desso

 

[I should coco]

0n other pages, a pre owned foot spa only £10.

...not forgetting the big story of last year about the untidy verge cutting:

https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/it-s...ft-by-sheffield-council-contractors-1-8617321

 

[stringer]

paraphrase
ˈparəfreɪz/
verb
gerund or present participle: paraphrasing

1. express the meaning of (something written or spoken) using different words, especially to achieve greater clarity.
   
   
   Greater clarity?

Well, yeah

 

[Sean Thornton]

That is a poor headline, as the quotation is not a quote, and 'admits' is clearly a loaded word, suggesting something Wilder would rather keep quiet. 'Stars' is less of a problem, as Carruthers and Lavery are both included, and though they are last season's men, they were significant signings who carried lots of people's hopes. 2 points to add:
1. The headline is poor, but it is common practice, clearly hoping people will buy the paper thinking it is Fleck and Sharp on the way. And it not only sells papers - how often do we go to a thread on here to find that it has nothing to do with the title? It is human nature to try and make a fast buck or take the piss.
2. You have not accurately represented the Star's overall portrayal of United today (to be fair, you don't claim to have, but others are jumping on it as I imagine you knew they would). The print edition has a full page on McCabe and the way in which he has run United. Broadly positive, and including analysis of how United have re-established themselves as the top club in Sheffield. I recommend it.

Hopefully the McCabe story will make the on line version as I haven't bought the Star in years.
The other point Hodgy is that, as you say, I haven't commented on bias or the overall coverage on United today, that's clearly not my point.

 

[stringer]

Hopefully the McCabe story will make the on line version as I haven't bought the Star in years.
The other point Hodgy is that, as you say, I haven't commented on bias or the overall coverage on United today, that's clearly not my point.

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foo...-to-protect-his-bramall-lane-legacy-1-8977679

I look forward to your thread on that, being open-minded and unbiased and all

 

[8lade]

I want to help so here's a few suggestions for alternate player descriptors:
Nathan Thomas - Strike Sensation
Ben Henghan - Giant Centre Half
Caolan Lavery - Celtic Maestro
Samir Carruthers - Maverick Barman

 

[Sean Thornton]

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foo...-to-protect-his-bramall-lane-legacy-1-8977679

I look forward to your thread on that, being open-minded and unbiased and all

Thanks for that Danny. I think it's a fair summation of McCabes tenure. I think Robson and Woolhouse get of lightly though

 

[georgebernardshaw]

I don’t get out as often as I used to, but I’m confused now

 

[1066blade]

Can only think he might mean Billy

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

The headline’s paraphrasing his quote hence the single ‘ marks rather than “, if we’re being pedantic (and correct).
If it was Jordan Hallam and Tyler Smith leaving on loan, I’d take your point. These four are in the first-team squad

I 'admit' that I have been a pedant for many years, and I have never seen that distinction between ' and ". I also 'admit' that I have never worked in journalism. The authority for written British English, the Oxford University Press style guide, which has been used for printed texts for many years, recommends ' (single) for direct quotations, and " (double) for quotations within quotations. If the Star uses ' (single) to indicate paraphrasing rather than quoting, what percentage of your readers do you think understand this distinction?

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Sensational headlines are the clickbait of the newspaper world.
Editors think that people will buy the paper after seeing the headline because they are desperate to find out the story behind it. What they fail to realise is that of those people that don't realise it is in fact utter bollocks, most of them will open the paper, read that the story is utter bollocks, put the paper back on the rack and go and buy a jazz mag (can you still get them or has PornHub killed that industry?!!!)

I am giving you a like purely for using jazz mag,I have absolutely no idea what PornHub is,my best guess is a place all mucky mags go when they are out of date,and men in long raincoats take advantage of the cut price pamphlets.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

I don’t get out as often as I used to, but I’m confused now

I am outraged about my grass verge

 

[Sean Thornton]

I am giving you a like purely for using jazz mag,I have absolutely no idea what PornHub is,my best guess is a place all mucky mags go when they are out of date,and men in long raincoats take advantage of the cut price pamphlets.

Think Cineplex with less hair......

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

This thread is terrible.

 

[Tunstall Fred]

Think Cineplex with less hair......

I thought it was CineCentre in Pond Street that showed the mucky films,as well as Studio 5,6 and 7,Cineplex was rather more upmarket.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foo...-to-protect-his-bramall-lane-legacy-1-8977679

I look forward to your thread on that, being open-minded and unbiased and all

And now I've looked at the rest of the paper, I am pleased to say that there is a full-page item on the SU Community Foundation (p. 4). Can you do a link to that? All very positive, though I'm not sure about the 79 year-old bloke 'booting people left, right and centre' at walking football. Is that a paraphrase or a direct quote? Either way, as a devout coward, I'm staying well away...

 

[stringer]

I 'admit' that I have been a pedant for many years, and I have never seen that distinction between ' and ". I also 'admit' that I have never worked in journalism. The authority for written British English, the Oxford University Press style guide, which has been used for printed texts for many years, recommends ' (single) for direct quotations, and " (double) for quotations within quotations. If the Star uses ' (single) to indicate paraphrasing rather than quoting, what percentage of your readers do you think understand this distinction?

I have no idea what percentage but I find it strange that I’ve only ever had one instance of it being an issue, and that’s from someone who searches for reasons to slag off the paper. So I’d estimate pretty high.

And now I've looked at the rest of the paper, I am pleased to say that there is a full-page item on the SU Community Foundation (p. 4). Can you do a link to that? All very positive, though I'm not sure about the 79 year-old bloke 'booting people left, right and centre' at walking football. Is that a paraphrase or a direct quote? Either way, as a devout coward, I'm staying well away...

I’ll have a look in a bit and let you know

 

[Sean Thornton]

'I have no idea what percentage but I find it strange that I’ve only ever had one instance of it being an issue, and that’s from someone who searches for reasons to slag off the paper. So I’d estimate pretty high. '

Lolled.

Anyone not on the defensive would actually imagine that the percentage is actually very low, seeing as only one person, until Hodgy proved your claim of being correct on the useage of. " ' ", incorrect, questioned it. Correctly.

I mean. You're a journo and you didn't know the correct usage.

 

[Houston_Blade]

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foo...-to-protect-his-bramall-lane-legacy-1-8977679

I look forward to your thread on that, being open-minded and unbiased and all

This is a good story. Well written.