Stadium Development

[SRA76]

Not sure Savile could be called far left.

Dint
No he slaughtered kids

 

[SRA76]

I can't find the quote about Saville on here but he was a great mate of Margaret Thatcher and she loved him to bits. He spent New Years Day at Chequers with her on more than one occasion. Not far left then.

Massive mates with 2 tier kier old jimmy was

 

[Sheffsteel]

He's a good example of what JJ talks about.

Just noticed on a FB page a post from "Premier league fan banter". There's a video at the recent Man City versus Watford league cup game and there are loads of FC Twente fans all sat together in large groups all around the stadium.

They were in Manchester due to playing Man Utd in the Europa cup on the Wednesday night
and many 100's must have thought they might as well go to watch the Man City game on the Tuesday night too.

Would this be possible at Bramall Lane, for 100's of Dutch fans to rock up a Bramall Lane and buy tickets, suspect not.

Makes me wonder if the SUFC fans group have had discussions about our strategy to increase the fanbase
and if we increased capacity to 40K, then how would we go about ensuring averages are over 35K? Do we have a policy regards attracting neutral fans? In many PL clubs they talk about 1000's of tourist supporters or PL supporters at every match. Does Sheffield ever attract these types of supporters, could it improve tourism, could a package be created involved Sheffield FC, Hallam FC, Sandygate etc.

Also there needs to be some research into the strategies other clubs have used.
For example never understood why any season ticket holder can't buy a minimum of 6 tickets, with no requirement to register anyone.
Are names and addresses kept just for admin purposes, so they can send promotional stuff thru the post?
Also what is our strategy regards students and does it work, what is the evidence it works, can it be evolved into something even better?

 

[pedro]

I think Fulham have a part of a stand for neutrals

 

[LBA_Blade]

I think Fulham have a part of a stand for neutrals

Don't know if it coming back but they binned that off when they were redesigning their big stand to allow extra home fan capacity. I know a few Fulham fans and they always complain about the tourists somehow getting tickets when you are supposed to be registered with x number of points

 

[reedy63]

A bit off topic sorry. I did not get a season ticket because I could not afford one when they were on general sale. However I bought a membership Rather expensive I thought. nevertheless I paid £40.As soon at tickets are available I phone the Ticket office the good thing is the ticket is printed on paper. No messing about with mobile phone. the person in front of had to back out of the turnstile his did not work. The turnstiles on John street to get on the kop. The bloke was playing hell. for fuck sake I have to walk reght round tu cherry street now. This was 2.45 pm I said why they don,t they put one of those portable cabins on the corner of John st/Shoreham st. everyone nodded they head brilliant idea even the stewards agreed. This put a lots of people off buying tickets when a easy solution can solve everything. just for match day provide a portacabin. come on Betis sort it out.

 

[petcharlie]

Why are the blades complicating buying tickets for fans who can only get to games now and again ? Have I got it wrong are fans having problems ? Sounds like some on here seem to being put off .

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

Have you seen our match day prices these days?

Kids matchday tickets now £20.

Twenty. Quid. For a kid. To go to one game.

Now, I get that it's in a very different league. But at Donny Rovers kids are a fiver. And they do voucher deals with local primary schools where kids can go free and accompanying adults get in for a tenner. That's how you get a new generation through the gate.

 

[Scoips]

He's a good example of what JJ talks about.

Just noticed on a FB page a post from "Premier league fan banter". There's a video at the recent Man City versus Watford league cup game and there are loads of FC Twente fans all sat together in large groups all around the stadium.

They were in Manchester due to playing Man Utd in the Europa cup on the Wednesday night
and many 100's must have thought they might as well go to watch the Man City game on the Tuesday night too.

Would this be possible at Bramall Lane, for 100's of Dutch fans to rock up a Bramall Lane and buy tickets, suspect not.

Makes me wonder if the SUFC fans group have had discussions about our strategy to increase the fanbase
and if we increased capacity to 40K, then how would we go about ensuring averages are over 35K? Do we have a policy regards attracting neutral fans? In many PL clubs they talk about 1000's of tourist supporters or PL supporters at every match. Does Sheffield ever attract these types of supporters, could it improve tourism, could a package be created involved Sheffield FC, Hallam FC, Sandygate etc.

Also there needs to be some research into the strategies other clubs have used.
For example never understood why any season ticket holder can't buy a minimum of 6 tickets, with no requirement to register anyone.
Are names and addresses kept just for admin purposes, so they can send promotional stuff thru the post?
Also what is our strategy regards students and does it work, what is the evidence it works, can it be evolved into something even better?

Both Sheffield and Hallam Universities run marketing courses. It wouldn't be difficult to get some of their students on placements/work experience to do some of that research pretty much for free. It might even bring some fresh ideas into the Brains Trust that run United....

 

[Crafty Blade]

I think Fulham have a part of a stand for neutrals

Fulham is an odd one. That half of the stand behind the goal has tended to be for a mix of home/neutrals/away overspill. Last season there was no segregation on the concourse below between both sides despite it being full of home fans.

 

[ancientblade]

Kids matchday tickets now £20.

Twenty. Quid. For a kid. To go to one game.

Now, I get that it's in a very different league. But at Donny Rovers kids are a fiver. And they do voucher deals with local primary schools where kids can go free and accompanying adults get in for a tenner. That's how you get a new generation through the gate.

and thats one of the reasons were not hitting 30k stupid pricing by united were getting very close to chansiriesque pricing at the lane as a club we havent a clue pr wise

 

[moody1889]

He's a good example of what JJ talks about.

Just noticed on a FB page a post from "Premier league fan banter". There's a video at the recent Man City versus Watford league cup game and there are loads of FC Twente fans all sat together in large groups all around the stadium.

They were in Manchester due to playing Man Utd in the Europa cup on the Wednesday night
and many 100's must have thought they might as well go to watch the Man City game on the Tuesday night too.

Would this be possible at Bramall Lane, for 100's of Dutch fans to rock up a Bramall Lane and buy tickets, suspect not.

Makes me wonder if the SUFC fans group have had discussions about our strategy to increase the fanbase
and if we increased capacity to 40K, then how would we go about ensuring averages are over 35K? Do we have a policy regards attracting neutral fans? In many PL clubs they talk about 1000's of tourist supporters or PL supporters at every match. Does Sheffield ever attract these types of supporters, could it improve tourism, could a package be created involved Sheffield FC, Hallam FC, Sandygate etc.

Also there needs to be some research into the strategies other clubs have used.
For example never understood why any season ticket holder can't buy a minimum of 6 tickets, with no requirement to register anyone.
Are names and addresses kept just for admin purposes, so they can send promotional stuff thru the post?
Also what is our strategy regards students and does it work, what is the evidence it works, can it be evolved into something even better?

Might help if we had our own airport it is criminal that a city the size of Sheffield does not have it's own big Airport

 

[JJBlade]

I think the answer is easy - lack of bold owners with big money.
The club has barely been able to pay the wages required to sustain PL survival.
Double our gates and it's only an extra £6m pa , from which you need to service the loan taken out to build.

Absolutely, the fans of all clubs pay practically nothing towards the running and future success of the club, they get all precious about their contribution.

Jock Stein said "Football without the fans is nothing"
In his day he was correct, the more fans a club got through the turnstiles the richer they were.

And United were as capable as any other of getting 40,000 and 50,000 given the right circumstances, so should have been more heavily involved in today's gravy train if the club had been run as something with a bit of potential instead of bending over and taking it up the shitter whenever anybody flashed 30 bob at one of our players.

 

[The Fox]

Why are people so concerned about seats that aren't sold?
I'm pretty sure the clubs done all the maths and is convinced that any increased revenue by filling those at whatever price is outweighed by extra costs.
If the club aren't bothered why should we be ?
I agree that some of the pricing dynamics, practical difficulties will put off some potd fans but it seams to be just not worth the effort to change the logistics or price .
It seams pretty much everyone who really wants to get in gets in .

 

[Sean Thornton]

Why are people so concerned about seats that aren't sold?
I'm pretty sure the clubs done all the maths and is convinced that any increased revenue by filling those at whatever price is outweighed by extra costs.
If the club aren't bothered why should we be ?
I agree that some of the pricing dynamics, practical difficulties will put off some potd fans but it seams to be just not worth the effort to change the logistics or price .
It seams pretty much everyone who really wants to get in gets in .

They probably think that anyone who isn’t up to getting a ticket under the current rules could possibly cause H&S issues for themselves and others while in the ground.

 

[alcoblade]

Absolutely, the fans of all clubs pay practically nothing towards the running and future success of the club, they get all precious about their contribution.

Jock Stein said "Football without the fans is nothing"
In his day he was correct, the more fans a club got through the turnstiles the richer they were.

And United were as capable as any other of getting 40,000 and 50,000 given the right circumstances, so should have been more heavily involved in today's gravy train if the club had been run as something with a bit of potential instead of bending over and taking it up the shitter whenever anybody flashed 30 bob at one of our players.

If the fans contribute "practically nothing", how does paying out tens of mullions to extend the ground help?

 

[The Fox]

If the fans contribute "practically nothing", how does paying out tens of mullions to extend the ground help?

Good question.
Last time we were in the championship our turnover was around £64m with around £10m of that from matchday revenue.

It's not ,hardly anything but it's not as significant as it used to be .

 

[alcoblade]

Good question.
Last time we were in the championship our turnover was around £64m with around £10m of that from matchday revenue.

It's not ,hardly anything but it's not as significant as it used to be .

I've no strong opinion either way, but JJBlade is almost obsessed by slagging both the club and the fans off, and in doing so in this one post, he seems to have tied himself in knots.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I've no strong opinion either way, but JJBlade is almost obsessed by slagging both the club and the fans off, and in doing so in this one post, he seems to have tied himself in knots.

Hasn’t attended for years either.

 

[JJBlade]

If the fans contribute "practically nothing", how does paying out tens of mullions to extend the ground help?

I don't give a fuck whether they extend the stadium or not, This is a discussion about how it could be done, and how the club could attract new fans by not being a fucking retarded moron

 

[Sean Thornton]

I don't give a fuck whether they extend the stadium or not, This is a discussion about how it could be done, and how the club could attract new fans by not being a fucking retarded moron

Easy Tiger

For someone who dgaf you are easily wound up. Mind you, loads would be if we made ourselves look daft as you’ve just done.

 

[JJBlade]

Easy Tiger

For someone who dgaf you are easily wound up. Mind you, loads would be if we made ourselves look daft as you’ve just done.

Ahhhh, have you and your bestie Alcoblade decided to get together to see if you could change the narrative of the thread seeing as everybody so far agrees with me.

 

[alcoblade]

Ahhhh, have you and your bestie Alcoblade decided to get together to see if you could change the narrative of the thread seeing as everybody so far agrees with me.

Calm yourself fella, I think you're having another episode. I've genuinely no idea what your'e on about.

1. You hate the club
2. You hate the fans
3. ?

Can you concentrate on 3 without (for once) mentioning 1 and 2?

 

[BladeInIreland]

I think there is more benefits to a bigger ground and attendances than just match day income. Probably less direct sources of income attributes to actively looking to increase our fan based such as sponsorship and merchandise. Also whilst not being the driving factor for a player you would think it would only have a positive affect on selling us although admittedly probably less than a decent training ground and decent wages on offer.

 

[metalblade]

To me it is quite simple get more potd fans into the ground some get the bug next season they buy a season ticket and maybe buy a shirt. Junior decides he wants to go to the game with dad same again he too gets a season ticket and he too wants a shirt. The more people that turn up each week means more people see adverts around the pitch so sponsors get bigger and are willing to pay more to get their name in front of a larger audience. Players always want to play for a better supported club so easier to attract a kid to play in front of a big crowd, a better team generates more interest for people to want to go watch better players. Big clubs didn't start off as big clubs they probably all started off in the smokey back room of some boozer with a group of blokes wanting summat to do on their day off work. It takes years to build a fan base once you stop trying to get more fans in the club stagnates and is going nowhere. Makes me sick to see kids walking around Sheffield wearing Man U, Man C, Liverpool or Chelsea shirts.

 

[S64 Blade]

Why are people so concerned about seats that aren't sold?
I'm pretty sure the clubs done all the maths and is convinced that any increased revenue by filling those at whatever price is outweighed by extra costs.
If the club aren't bothered why should we be ?
I agree that some of the pricing dynamics, practical difficulties will put off some potd fans but it seams to be just not worth the effort to change the logistics or price .
It seams pretty much everyone who really wants to get in gets in .

You’re placing a lot of faith in a club that’s almost twice being sold to fraudsters, that they’ll have done a full analysis on this.

And we should care because we will be fans for life, those making the decisions at the club are unlikely to be doing so for life.

 

[Keen Blade]

If the fans contribute "practically nothing", how does paying out tens of mullions to extend the ground help?

The short answer is it doesn't.

 

[metalblade]

The short answer is it doesn't.

But then eventually your stadium becomes something akin to Millmoor

 

[Crafty Blade]

The club should be actively trying to grow its fanbase, as any business would try to attract more customers. The benefits have positive impacts on all areas of the running and profitability of the club. The main way to do that is make the ground bigger and make it easier for new fans to attend.

But irrespective of that, just from an existing fan's perspective, it would be nice to be valued and have better facilities at the ground and a better all round matchday experience. Matchday income may not be the cash cow it once was but fans spend a relative fortune and precious time on the club as people could always be doing something else on a Saturday afternoon.

 

[alcoblade]

I don't hate the club, it's unfair to hate retards.
I do however hate some of our fans because they're backward pricks

A double tick again

Serious point - given that you don't actually support us any more, why do you waste your time on here?