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LoughboroBlade said:
His first mistake of many. One repeated by serial mistake-maker Bryan Robson in giving Beattie the number 6.
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Beattie signed after the squad numbers had been given out so took 6 as it was vacant. Unfortunately we can't blame Robson for this one as much I'd love to blame him for everything!
 
stannyblade said:
Anybody see that on the internet the other day wher a player of I think Ipswich had changed squad numbers and had said anyone who had a shirt with his name and number on but the old number then he would buy them the new shirt himself with the new squad number on it?

Nice gesture I thought
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Bendtner did it a while back. Presume he only had to replace about 5 shirts though - all Danish fans I expect. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/aug/12/nicklas-bendtner-arsenal-shirt-number-refund
 
mattbianco1 said:
Beattie signed after the squad numbers had been given out so took 6 as it was vacant. Unfortunately we can't blame Robson for this one as much I'd love to blame him for everything!
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He could have just had one of the numbers outside the 11. I'd rather 6 had stayed vacant all season than have it given to a striker. All Robson's fault.
 
LoughboroBlade said:
He could have just had one of the numbers outside the 11. I'd rather 6 had stayed vacant all season than have it given to a striker. All Robson's fault.
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Maybe Beattie wanted the "upside down 9"

Remember Zamarano at Inter having 1+8 instead of 18 because someone took 9 off him. Footballers care a lot about numbers you know. If only they'd cared about numbers more in maths, they might have proper jobs and be able to hold a full conversation without having to say "err you know" between every word.
Rant over!
 
mattbianco1 said:
Maybe Beattie wanted the "upside down 9"

Remember Zamarano at Inter having 1+8 instead of 18 because someone took 9 off him. Footballers care a lot about numbers you know. If only they'd cared about numbers more in maths, they might have proper jobs and be able to hold a full conversation without having to say "err you know" between every word.
Rant over!
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'Someone' being Ronaldo!
 
Ossie Ardiles wore the number 1 shirt for Argentina in the 1982 World Cup!
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mattbianco1 said:
Doesn't matter who it is. Zamarano was still there so it was his number. Real Madrid don't piss about. Remember Zidane taking 5 because there was nowt available
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The problem with that Real side was it had a continuous knock-on effect. Raul was unmovable wearing 7, so Figo had 10. When Zidane arrived 10 was taken so he had 5. I think Ronaldo or Owen might have worn 11 around that time. Then when Beckham couldn't have 7 or 10 didn't he have 23? Half the Galacticos were wearing the wrong numbers all because of Raul.

I guess Doyle and Porter will be keeping the highly valued 8 and 9 then...
 
This keeps up the traditional position-based system:


1: Howard
2: Alcock
3: Harris
4: Basham
5: Maguire
6: Butler
7: Flynn
8: Scougall
9: Porter
10: Baxter
11: Murphy
12: Paling
13: New Left Back
14: Doyle
15: McGahey
16: Collins
17: Campbell-Ryce
18: Wallace
19: New Striker
20: McNulty
21: Khan
22:
23:
24: McGinn
25:
26: Kennedy
27:
28: Reed
29:
30: De Girolamo
31:
32:
33:
34: Dimaio
35:
36:
37:
38: Cuvelier
41: Long
51: Willis
+: youth teamers

So right backs get 2, 12, 22 and so on, defensive central midfielders get 4, 14, 24...
 
Bergen Blade said:
This keeps up the traditional position-based system:


1: Howard
2: Alcock
3: Harris
4: Basham
5: Maguire
6: Butler
7: Flynn
8: Scougall
9: Porter
10: Baxter
11: Murphy
12: Paling
13: New Left Back
14: Doyle
15: McGahey
16: Collins
17: Campbell-Ryce
18: Wallace
19: New Striker
20: McNulty
21: Khan
22:
23:
24: McGinn
25:
26: Kennedy
27:
28: Reed
29:
30: De Girolamo
31:
32:
33:
34: Dimaio
35:
36:
37:
38: Cuvelier
41: Long
51: Willis
+: youth teamers

So right backs get 2, 12, 22 and so on, defensive central midfielders get 4, 14, 24...
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Bergen Blade said:
This keeps up the traditional position-based system:


1: Howard
2: Alcock
3: Harris
4: Basham
5: Maguire
6: Butler
7: Flynn
8: Scougall
9: Porter
10: Baxter
11: Murphy
12: Paling
13: New Left Back
14: Doyle
15: McGahey
16: Collins
17: Campbell-Ryce
18: Wallace
19: New Striker
20: McNulty
21: Khan
22:
23:
24: McGinn
25:
26: Kennedy
27:
28: Reed
29:
30: De Girolamo
31:
32:
33:
34: Dimaio
35:
36:
37:
38: Cuvelier
41: Long
51: Willis
+: youth teamers

So right backs get 2, 12, 22 and so on, defensive central midfielders get 4, 14, 24...
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I'd always thought the number 6,16, 26 for DM's
 
SherburnBlade said:
Argentina gave out the squad numbers in alphabetical order at that time, with the exception of Maradona, who got 10 because, well, because he was Maradona! (or something).
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It was the same for Argentina in 1978. Alonso (River Plate playmaker) was number 1 and Ardiles was number 2. Their best player Kempes (only player in the squad that plays for a club outside Argentina) was number 10
 
Bergen Blade said:
This keeps up the traditional position-based system:


1: Howard
2: Alcock
3: Harris
4: Basham
5: Maguire
6: Butler
7: Flynn
8: Scougall
9: Porter
10: Baxter
11: Murphy
12: Paling
13: New Left Back
14: Doyle
15: McGahey
16: Collins
17: Campbell-Ryce
18: Wallace
19: New Striker
20: McNulty
21: Khan
22:
23:
24: McGinn
25:
26: Kennedy
27:
28: Reed
29:
30: De Girolamo
31:
32:
33:
34: Dimaio
35:
36:
37:
38: Cuvelier
41: Long
51: Willis
+: youth teamers

So right backs get 2, 12, 22 and so on, defensive central midfielders get 4, 14, 24...
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I get what you're doing there, but moving Collins from 15 wasn't necessary!
 

As far as I recall your 2-3-5 formation is not quite right, Bergen. My memory is that number 4 was always the right half.
 
When teams went 4-4-2, the defensive numbers often depended on whether there were any left footers in the team. Your main centre half was always number 5. His partner was either number 4 if he was right footed or number 6 if he was left footed.
 
Punk Blade said:
Would it not be more important which CB marks which opposition forward than whether he's left or right?
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No, who they were marking didn't influence the order at all. When the most common formation gradually changed from 2-3-5 to 4-4-2 the players whose roles were tweaked took their numbers with them.
 
AgaMonkey said:
When teams went 4-4-2, the defensive numbers often depended on whether there were any left footers in the team. Your main centre half was always number 5. His partner was either number 4 if he was right footed or number 6 if he was left footed.
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I didn't know that, though I think Trevor Hockey wore number 6 sometimes? I think Steve Bruce's number was always 4 with Pallister 6, which also supports what you're saying.
 
There was no strict rule to numbering in a 4-4-2 really, it comes down to manager preference. At Manchester United Ferguson gave Bruce and Pallister 4 and 6, so 5 was normally a midfielder like Mike Phelan and when Premier League Squad numbers started 5 was given to Lee Sharpe. As seasons went on Laurent Blanc and Rio Ferdinand both asked to change their squad numbers to 5 as it was the 'proper' centre half number.

Most English sides traditionally favour 5 and 6 at centre back, 4 and 8 in central midfield, with 10 as the second striker, but there's plenty of cases down the years of midfielders wearing 10, with 8 being a striker, like Ian Wright was at Arsenal. The Dutch usually number their back four from right to left, so the left back wears 5 and 6 goes to a midfielder. This also affects current squad numbers as central defenders from some countries ask to wear 4 because that's a normal centre back number to them.

There's also the old fashioned thing of if you have the shirt, it's yours to lose, so if a player could play in more than one position, they'd take their shirt with them even in the days before squad numbers, leading to central midfielders like Bryan Robson wearing 7, strikers turned midfielders like Brian McClair retaining 9, meaning that with Robson injured, the number spare for new striker Cantona to wear was 7. It happened with us as well, with Dean Saunders nearly always wearing 7 despite being a striker and Devlin wearing 10 on the right wing.
 
Were they the squad numbers tonight vs. Fenerbahce?

Most of them were feasible you'd think. Porter was 18 (I think). Murphy had 9. Butler 5. McGahey 17. All looked about right to me apart from Reed wearing 10?!?
 
Aren't they still being numbered 1-22 in the friendlies? Tonight's numbers would have those not in the squad (Baxter and Scougall?) outside the first 22. Chris Porter starting without number 9 seems a bit fishy though.
 

No number for Florent Cuvelier seems to be the forgotten man at United, I know it says at the bottom "It is expected that numbers will be allocated to further players in due course" but I thought he would be allocated a number from the offset.
 
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