Speeds Signings

[boo radley]

Come on then, he signs Calve and De laet. Whoops did i see these two working well with eachother yesterday? Yes i did and it was noticed in the crowd where we sat. Now if thats hanging on to a hope and excitement about what GS maybe able to acheive then i'd rather have that than the doom and gloom that people on here have predicted.
I'm sorry i dismiss all those ' we were crap yesterday' threads. Still smiling and sorry once again to upset the already distraught. I THOUGHT WE WERE BETTER THAN WATFORD YESTERDAY AND DESERVED A POINT.
COME ON SPEEDO AND COYRAWW.

 

[MunXy]

i think the main problem withj that argument boo is yes they may hae worked well together BUT neither are our players, both loans that should play out thier skins to hopefully get a perminant move in jan, dont you think.
noworthy for whatever reason feels he has nothing to prove and doesn't have to work his bollocks off for us as either way he gets paid.
someone, i forget who in another thread hit the nail on the head, there is no commitment to the glorious red n white shirt, not even from morgs and that more than anything else gives me greatest cause for concern.
one last point boo, we may or may not have been better than them BUT the one and only stat that matters is 0-1 AGAIN.

MunXy

 

[boo radley]

1i think the main problem withj that argument boo is yes they may hae worked well together BUT neither are our players, both loans that should play out thier skins to hopefully get a perminant move in jan, dont you think.
2noworthy for whatever reason feels he has nothing to prove and doesn't have to work his bollocks off for us as either way he gets paid.
someone, i forget who in another thread hit the nail on the head,3 there is no commitment to the glorious red n white shirt, not even from morgs and that more than anything else gives me greatest cause for concern.
4one last point boo, we may or may not have been better than them BUT the one and only stat that matters is 0-1 AGAIN.

MunXy

1 They are young players who whichever club they play for they would hope to do well and further their careers first. Hopefully over their loans, they would grow to apreciate our club and fans. the point I'm trying to make is look at what GS has brought in so far and if that is the style of player then coupled with the hope of us the fans that they get what it means to be Blades then if he (GS) continues to bring in these players -Brilliant.
2 I almost agree with you, he is so frustrating but even he would hope to further his career by doing well. Otherwise he is stupid. If he gets dropped and other clubs would notice this he would just end up in the lower divisions getting paid less.
3 There are players who play full commitment and Morgs is one of them. He's been injured and he would be in the team if not. 1 mistake (middlesborough) and his career is over, what sort of attitude is that,that some fans have? apply that to a keeper and Simmo would be collecting dole after Scunny. You should hope that the commitment that Morgs and Monty have to the shirt is the type of guidance that we hope rubs off on the players GS brings in. (I think we should agree to differ if it is there or not).
4 You are right of corse about the result but it annoys me to death when we scrap out a win or draw (Barnsley away last season) and fans come on spouting about how lucky we were and derserved nothing. Unlike on saturday when i agree that Watford had more play 1st half but only the one chance. Big screen at half time, were so crap at set pieces but stephen jordans header dunt count. Boggy's cross for creswell and there were more.
In the 2nd half we dominated and were so crap at set plays within play (OK finishing is a problem) but the cut back to edge of box and chip in Boggy's header (That dunt count), that was the same as when Ertl hip the bar at Leeds. Can people not see that variation in plays is being tried? it maynot be working but those who are moaning are the same who wanted Blackwell out, Now they'd have him back because its a results based business?

 

[davidpinder]

Come on then, he signs Calve and De laet. Whoops did i see these two working well with eachother yesterday? Yes i did and it was noticed in the crowd where we sat. Now if thats hanging on to a hope and excitement about what GS maybe able to acheive then i'd rather have that than the doom and gloom that people on here have predicted.
I'm sorry i dismiss all those ' we were crap yesterday' threads. Still smiling and sorry once again to upset the already distraught. I THOUGHT WE WERE BETTER THAN WATFORD YESTERDAY AND DESERVED A POINT.
COME ON SPEEDO AND COYRAWW.

I really thought we were going to win Saturday and do it well just had a feeling. I believe Speed could do a good job Boo but he needs help from the guy above him ie a bit of cash and i don't mean a lot either. This is what frustrates me because we need new blood he is a new manager and every new manager needs support something am sure Sven will get in the coming weeks in the loan market then in January. Speed needs help but at the moment he is working on a shoe string.

 

[SotonBlade]

If these two worked well together then that's a very small good sign, but lets not get away from the fact that the main issue at the moment is that we cannot score goals. I really do hope GS is looking at bringing in a minimum of two attacking players, one striker and one forward thinking midfielder. This should be the minimum target by the end of the international break.

 

[SwissBlade]

Ahh the old "they're not our players" comeback.

Shall we forget loanees completely then?

 

[SteelCity Blade]

I THOUGHT WE WERE BETTER THAN WATFORD YESTERDAY AND DESERVED A POINT.

Not a chance boo. Sorry mucker but there is no way anyone can justify that statement. I'm all for being positive and looking on the bright side (if there is one) but we were deservedly beaten by a more organised and more purposeful side on saturday. Their goal was very well worked and they defended comfortably for the whole of the second half.

United created nothing of note. It was like watching the second half just pass by without a moment of excitement. I'm not trying to be dower for the sake of it but facts are facts, we lost because we deserved to lose and we were poor in the attacking third. Here's hoping for something better next time around........

UTB!

 

[Micalijo]

Not a chance boo. Sorry mucker but there is no way anyone can justify that statement. I'm all for being positive and looking on the bright side (if there is one) but we were deservedly beaten by a more organised and more purposeful side on saturday. Their goal was very well worked and they defended comfortably for the whole of the second half.

United created nothing of note. It was like watching the second half just pass by without a moment of excitement. I'm not trying to be dower for the sake of it but facts are facts, we lost because we deserved to lose and we were poor in the attacking third. Here's hoping for something better next time around........

UTB!

I can try and justify it, I thought we deserved a point at least.

In second half Boggy missed a sitter and there were a couple of really good crosses knocked in which they defended very well, just cleared for corners. I thought, for us, we had a very good spell of pressure in second half.

In first half their keeper made 2 decent saves.

None of that is anything to write home about, we are in deep trouble and have some very poor players. I agree that they were reasonably comfortable for a side 'defending' a one goal lead away from home but, unbelievably, I didn't see Saturday being as bad as what you make out, far from it.

 

[boo radley]

Not a chance boo. Sorry mucker but there is no way anyone can justify that statement. I'm all for being positive and looking on the bright side (if there is one) but we were deservedly beaten by a more organised and more purposeful side on saturday. Their goal was very well worked and they defended comfortably for the whole of the second half.

United created nothing of note. It was like watching the second half just pass by without a moment of excitement. I'm not trying to be dower for the sake of it but facts are facts, we lost because we deserved to lose and we were poor in the attacking third. Here's hoping for something better next time around........

UTB!

And opinions are opinions
We lost because they scored and we did not - that is a fact.
All where i was sat thought we deserverd at least a point and most the win. Most were upset with the ref and frustrated about our strickers.
its funny but if Boggy scored the sitter i beleive you and others would have a different view on the game. (i dont like suggesting others thought though).

 

[boo radley]

sorry double post

 

[SteelCity Blade]

I can try and justify it, I thought we deserved a point at least.

In second half Boggy missed a sitter and there were a couple of really good crosses knocked in which they defended very well, just cleared for corners. I thought, for us, we had a very good spell of pressure in second half.

In first half their keeper made 2 decent saves.

None of that is anything to write home about, we are in deep trouble and have some very poor players. I agree that they were reasonably comfortable for a side 'defending' a one goal lead away from home but, unbelievably, I didn't see Saturday being as bad as what you make out, far from it.

In fairness to you mic (and I know we've had disagreements) you're being fairly positive in your reflection of the game and there is nothing wrong with that. But despite any positives that could be identified I dont see how anyone could argue we deserved a point. We barely threatened their goal and our spell of pressure in the second half produced nothing more than a half chance for Bogdanovic.

I'm not saying all is lost but in the attacking third we are so so poor at the moment and lacking any sort of inspiration. Saturday wasn't the worst performance ive ever seen from a Blades side, far from it.....ive seen some shockers down the years! But it was certainly one of the most toothless ive ever seen. We get the ball two thirds of the way up the pitch and it just fizzles out to nothing.

Its not any one individuals fault, its the collective. We simply dont have good enough players and our team is unbalanced (particularly across the middle). We CAN do something about it but we have to soon or we will be dragged into trouble. Speed has nothing to work with.

 

[boo radley]

I can try and justify it, I thought we deserved a point at least.

In second half Boggy missed a sitter and there were a couple of really good crosses knocked in which they defended very well, just cleared for corners. I thought, for us, we had a very good spell of pressure in second half.

In first half their keeper made 2 decent saves.

None of that is anything to write home about, we are in deep trouble and have some very poor players. I agree that they were reasonably comfortable for a side 'defending' a one goal lead away from home but, unbelievably, I didn't see Saturday being as bad as what you make out, far from it.

Thanks Mic

 

[SteelCity Blade]

And opinions are opinions
We lost because they scored and we did not - that is a fact.
All where i was sat thought we deserverd at least a point and most the win. Most were upset with the ref and frustrated about our strickers.
its funny but if Boggy scored the sitter i beleive you and others would have a different view on the game. (i dont like suggesting others thought though).

I wouldn't boo I can promise you. I dont know what game you lot where at then, everyone sat round me.....a good dozen of us were bemoaning our lack of creativity and failure to pick out a final ball. The defensive side isnt a problem for me, its in the final third. We just become hopeless when we get past the halfway line!

We lost because they scored and we didnt. They scored and we didnt because they created a clear goal scoring opportunity with a well worked move.....we didnt. They defended their goal well for almost the entire game.....so did we but we switched off at the vital moment. We can tot up corners, possession, spells of pressure all we want. The fact is they played smarter than us and with more conviction. Watford were deserving winners and a number of people ive spoken to fully agree. Quite a few on here do as well, though I acknowledge some saw it differently (I cant imagine why).

The ref was awful, I agree with that. As for Boggy, not a sitter IMO. It came to him from a funny angle and he had to twist his neck slightly to get it on target. A top class striker may well have buried it but it wasnt a clear cut chance in my view.

 

[boo radley]

I wouldn't boo I can promise you. I dont know what game you lot where at then, everyone sat round me.....a good dozen of us were bemoaning our lack of creativity and failure to pick out a final ball. The defensive side isnt a problem for me, its in the final third. We just become hopeless when we get past the halfway line!

We lost because they scored and we didnt. They scored and we didnt because they created a clear goal scoring opportunity with a well worked move.....we didnt. They defended their goal well for almost the entire game.....so did we but we switched off at the vital moment. We can tot up corners, possession, spells of pressure all we want. The fact is they played smarter than us and with more conviction. Watford were deserving winners and a number of people ive spoken to fully agree. Quite a few on here do as well, though I acknowledge some saw it differently (I cant imagine why).

The ref was awful, I agree with that. As for Boggy, not a sitter IMO. It came to him from a funny angle and he had to twist his neck slightly to get it on target. A top class striker may well have buried it but it wasnt a clear cut chance in my view.

We'll have to disagree on this then

 

[SteelCity Blade]

We'll have to disagree on this then

Indeed. I appreciate youre looking for the positive in Saturday boo but I just dont share that view of the game based on what I saw. We've got a long, hard season ahead of us IMO.

I hope I can post on here in six months time and say "boo, you were right there was something there." I will hold my hands up if and when the time comes. I hope for all the world that it does.

 

[broomhillblade]

We're all agreed that we need to bring in a striker or two, if not now on loan, then in the January transfer window.

But who? And how?

I've been somewhat bemused in recent days by the reaction to Spurs' sensation, Mr Van Der Fart. The media are praising 'Arry for finding such an amazing bargain. ONLY £8 million!

£8 f...ing million! And we regard that as cheap. Plus wages of course that probably amount to as much in a week as Mr.Average earns in a year.

That's how far the game has sunk and what a mountain we have to climb.

 

[broomhillblade]

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[boo radley]

Indeed. I appreciate youre looking for the positive in Saturday boo but I just dont share that view of the game based on what I saw. We've got a long, hard season ahead of us IMO.

I hope I can post on here in six months time and say "boo, you were right there was something there." I will hold my hands up if and when the time comes. I hope for all the world that it does.

So, My thread was about speeds signings but people have expanded to take in all the game. I know i expanded to the whole game, But you've seen nothing in those two?

 

[SteelCity Blade]

So, My thread was about speeds signings but people have expanded to take in all the game. I know i expanded to the whole game, But you've seen nothing in those two?

In terms of those two players, yes they have something about them but as I said earlier I havent got any major issues with the defence. Its our strongest area of the team IMO.

Calve has some good attacking qualities but looks a little soft defensively if I have any criticism of him. Doesnt get tight enough to his man but gets forward well.....I suppose unless you sign a top class full back you cant always have both.

De Laet looks like he could turn into a good player but he is still young and lacking in experience so I dont want to judge him too quickly. Only seen him play once as well so jury is out but initial view is a positive one. You can see what Man U see in him.

When we've got a full quota to pick from the defence is fine I'm quite happy with it but we need to find an attacking threat from somewhere because beyond the position Britton normally plays in its almost non-existent. When we're having to talk about Calve and De Laet (two defenders) working well together it tells the whole story.

We're not without hope but we're well short of being a good side in this division.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Has Olly said whether we deserved anything or not on Saturday, I might have missed it ?

For the record, IMO a point apiece might just about have been fair, they did all they had to do after scoring and Simmo had nothing to do 2nd half. It would certainly have been interesting if we'd equalised as it certainly looked as though they'd settled for what they had.

 

[lenners]

A draw would have been just about fair but it was one of those games where you could make out an argument for Watford coming, doing a professional job on us and deserving it.
We actually created more openings than we usually do but without really quite suggesting we were going to score.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

No point buying strikers if we don't have a midfield or wide player who can create the chances.

 

[raul]

Has Olly said whether we deserved anything or not on Saturday, I might have missed it ?

For the record, IMO a point apiece might just about have been fair, they did all they had to do after scoring and Simmo had nothing to do 2nd half. It would certainly have been interesting if we'd equalised as it certainly looked as though they'd settled for what they had.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CY1DYCCMuI

 

[lenners]

No point buying strikers if we don't have a midfield or wide player who can create the chances.

I wouldn't go that far. We need some pace, some impact, some skill, some dynamism up front regardless.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I don't think Alan Shearer would get many goals given the chances created, there is no invention either in midfield or outwide.

It put tremendous pressure on the forward who gets one half-decent chance per game.

I think this will change as players come back, and Speed gets players who are comfortable on the ball in but this will take time. This is why I think Williamson is a big miss in midfield and as I txt'd a mate on Saturday if we don't have Britton we have no creativity at all. Williamson and Britton would be a great 2 alongside someone like Ertl.
But we still would need the pace, skill, dynamism you mention out wide and I can't see that in the current squad.

 

[SwissBlade]

I wouldn't go that far. We need some pace, some impact, some skill, some dynamism up front regardless.

Dean Saunders had all of those attributes, but he still needed decent supply.

 

[Cool Clint]

To the point. I think that the two GS signings are great and if that is what we're looking at if all his signings are as good then he'll turn out to be a great manager.

 

[SwissBlade]

To the point. I think that the two GS signings are great and if that is what we're looking at if all his signings are as good then he'll turn out to be a great manager.

No no no you can't say anything positive, they're only loanees, they're not our players...!

And even if we extend their loan deals and they keep doing well (which would be another positive as it could mean that other clubs with decent players may see that we can help develop young players) then McCabe and Birch will be lambasted for something else

 

[Cool Clint]

No no no you can't say anything positive, they're only loanees, they're not our players...!

And even if we extend their loan deals and they keep doing well (which would be another positive as it could mean that other clubs with decent players may see that we can help develop young players) then McCabe and Birch will be lambasted for something else

Shit sorry Swiss i forgot we have to buy or use the academy God forgive us if we find a hod carrier like Vinnie.

 

[lenners]

No no no you can't say anything positive, they're only loanees, they're not our players...!

And even if we extend their loan deals and they keep doing well (which would be another positive as it could mean that other clubs with decent players may see that we can help develop young players) then McCabe and Birch will be lambasted for something else

Oh come on, it's an entirely fair criticism. We were told this wouldn't happen again - and yet we've done it all again.
It's great we've got some steady players in on loan but for goodness sake we should never have been in this situation.