Speed - No Bottle No Balls No Spunk

[Worksop_Blade]

Its a bit premature, as he hasn't been confirmed in the post yet, but I think we all know its just a formality. Unlike with NW and Pompey.

However, If/ when the innevitable happens and he fooks off to Wales then I'll fully agree with Fiery.

WE were the club that gave him his chance in management, but did we give him a year to prove himself, NO! We gave him a 3 year deal, to show our commitment and desire to keep him.

As fans, the majority said fairplay, lets give him a chance, we've backed him and I think to a man, we're giving him time. On Saturday I felt sorry for Speed and his team of coaching and playing staff. It wasn't working.

So for me, he's taking the easy way out. He can't really fail as Wales manager, they're expected to win nothing. Its not real management, its 6 games a year.

So this is where I will complain about McCabe and Steer/ Birch (listen in Lenners, it doesn't happen often):

IF they think Speed is still the right man, fcuk the compo from Wales. Tell Speed here is where his future lies, map it out for him, tell him what we're going to do at this great club of ours. Tell him to honour his contract, tell him the future is bright, its red and white and to fuck the taffy shite, that job'll be there in 5, 10, 15 years anyway.

Speed, You said that you weren't weak minded, well grow some bollocks, stay and do the job you were trusted to do by 25,000 Blades. Prove that you can manage when the odds are stacked against you.

Why should he have stayed to have reputation battered?

It wasn't working and he thought "I'm now sticking around here to get relegated" so he's gone to manage HIS country.

If I was in a relegation scrap at a skint championship club with a really shit squad and England come along and asked me to manage them 6 times a year, you wouldn't see me for dust.


Fair play to him, I just hope his first game in charge against England ends in a really huge defeat. 0-7 will do.

 

[bartman]

Do you agree with the board for sanctioning the continuous sale of players and bringing in inferior replacements on loan.A route which they promised wouldnt be taken again.Certain promises were made in order to sell season tickets,and then broken without any consideration for the paying public.Any manager at the Lane will have to work with is hands behind is back.

Your arguement was about bringing in players on the cheap......I have mentioned in my post about the wrong decisions the Board have made over the last few years however,the Board should not interfere in who a manager wants to bring in(wages allowing)...If a manager wants a player in that we can afford,the Board then can't turn round and say'you cant buy him cos he's crap'...how many managers would we keep if that happened.

We overspent when Robson came in,Blackwell had to manage the situation(which he did poorly last season in my opinion). We currently have 2 short term loan(one of which is cover only) and 2 long term loans in the squad(i.e. season long contracts)...is this excessive.

Yes I blame the Board for not planning appropriately on relegation and then pulling the carpet too quickly when it all started to go wrong . I also blame them for not sacking Blackwell after Wembley and employing Robson but ,in my opinion,you can't blame them for the players the managers choses to purchase and the tactics he then uses.

What promises have been broken to season ticket holders ? No guarantees were given just hopes,beliefs and dreams like all other clubs do

 

[Eckingtonian]

I accept no guarantees were given,but we were told we didnt need or have to sell players.We were also told we wouldnt rely on loan signings which in my opinion we are doing.The ones you mention i would think are on decent wages,but their parent club will be funding a large proportion of these.I also seem to remember a quote that Speed would be given money to spend in January,could this have had a bearing on his decision to leave?

Your arguement was about bringing in players on the cheap......I have mentioned in my post about the wrong decisions the Board have made over the last few years however,the Board should not interfere in who a manager wants to bring in(wages allowing)...If a manager wants a player in that we can afford,the Board then can't turn round and say'you cant buy him cos he's crap'...how many managers would we keep if that happened.

We overspent when Robson came in,Blackwell had to manage the situation(which he did poorly last season in my opinion). We currently have 2 short term loan(one of which is cover only) and 2 long term loans in the squad(i.e. season long contracts)...is this excessive.

Yes I blame the Board for not planning appropriately on relegation and then pulling the carpet too quickly when it all started to go wrong . I also blame them for not sacking Blackwell after Wembley and employing Robson but ,in my opinion,you can't blame them for the players the managers choses to purchase and the tactics he then uses.

What promises have been broken to season ticket holders ? No guarantees were given just hopes,beliefs and dreams like all other clubs do

 

[Fiery Blade]

By all accounts he's taking a big salary cut to take the Wales job. That's hardly the cowards' way out. It's become increasingly obvious as the season has progressed that he's struggling here and things haven't gone his way (what with clowns like Boggy and Cresswell picking up needless suspensions) among other things. There's no guarantee that he would be able to improve matters, even if given some money to spend in January.

He's taking a convenient way out - yes - but he's doing SUFC a favour. The club even gets compensation.

Would you rather he'd hang on until we get relegated at the end of the season, get the sack, and walk away with a nice pay-off?

Speed has never tried to blame others for the team's failures. He's never been anything other than dignified.

I found the tone of your post at the start of this thread offensive and unnecessary. How easy it is to be an internet bully. I bet you wouldn't say the same to Speed's face.

I certainly would - in my eyes Speed asked for (I would assume) and was given a three year contract - he has walked away from this 'contract' after 4 months
He has in effect quit the post to take a job that pays less, less pressure and probably less expectation !
Wether he is doing SUFC a favour is up for debate but the fact is that he walked out of a contract with 2 years 8 months to go - how is that 'dignified'
Don't get me wrong I was a massive Speed fan but I feel he has let himself and the fans down by quitting without a fight.
I do not subscribe to this theory that he 'will make an excellent manager, another time, another place' - Gary Speed hasn't the bottle to prove to anyone that he can be a good manager - he walks away when the going gets tough and an escape route appears!!!
I never saw that in his game when he was playing - but as they say being a manager is a whole new ball game and Gary has just proved that he can't cut the mustard!!!

 

[Stafford Blade]

Can't fault Speed at all for the decision he has made, been given the chance to manage the country he represented 80 odd times. People who are criticising him in my opinion are pretty pathetic.

Here, he's trying to do an almost impossible job at a club that is rapidly turning into a shit excuse for a professional football club. He gets the opportunity to manage at international level for a bit less money and a far lot less work. Who would you rather work with? Gareth Bale and Arron Ramsay or Stephen Quinn and Andy Taylor?

Good luck to the bloke I say.

 

[SwissBlade]

Good luck to Gary Speed. He has his first failure on his managerial CV, as Fiery said "No Bottle, No Balls" No spirit for the fight and not willing to stick it out and battle to perhaps enhance his reputation. Like a lot of former top players, they donät want to cut their teeth and whilst its surprised me, I thought he was better than that.

He may not have been behind the demise to this current level, but he was part of it for the time he was with us, he knew what he was taking on at the start of the season and whilst I have been impressed by his attitude whilst he was in the hot seat, we were no more than a stepping stone for him. Fair enough. Thats life, but he knew what he was taking on so why take it on just to jump ship at the first sniff of danger. Just taken him down in my estimation.

Now never darken our doors again Gary, unless its to take the backroom team with you.

 

[Stafford Blade]

Good luck to Gary Speed. He has his first failure on his managerial CV, as Fiery said "No Bottle, No Balls" No spirit for the fight and not willing to stick it out and battle to perhaps enhance his reputation. Like a lot of former top players, they donät want to cut their teeth and whilst its surprised me, I thought he was better than that.

He may not have been behind the demise to this current level, but he was part of it for the time he was with us, he knew what he was taking on at the start of the season and whilst I have been impressed by his attitude whilst he was in the hot seat, we were no more than a stepping stone for him. Fair enough. Thats life, but he knew what he was taking on so why take it on just to jump ship at the first sniff of danger. Just taken him down in my estimation.

Now never darken our doors again Gary, unless its to take the backroom team with you.

That is complete bollocks.

There can't be many blokes that would turn down the opportunity to manage their country and it is not his fault they've offered him the job. He might not get offered the job again and the Wales job is a great job as they are shite and any slight success is celebrated wildly.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

That is complete bollocks. There can't be many blokes that would turn down the opportunity to manage their country and it is not his fault they've offered him the job. He might not get offered the job again and the Wales job is a great job as they are shite and any slight success is celebrated wildly.

I think the truth of the matter is that the Wales job was always available to Speed if he wanted it. Don't forget he originally ruled himself out shortly after taking the Blades job. When he realised that he wasn't up to the challenge at Bramall Lane due to lack of experience and/or managerial prowess, he decided to jump ship for calmer waters after all. This article in The Star indicates that Speed (or somebody close to him!) approached Wales last week rather than them suddenly offering him the job. Would he honestly have found the Wales job "impossible to resist" if we were challenging for promotion to The Premiership?

http://www.thestar.co.uk/blades/How-Speed-fitted-need-for.6659826.jp

"Suddenly, though, a fifth name - Speed - entered the frame. Initial contact is not believed to have been made by the man himself. But someone close to the 41-year-old informed the FAW that their most capped outfield player could find the temptation to take charge of his country impossible to resist."