So now it's official

[EddieColquhoun]

Spot on, Worksops outgoings to SUFC for this Season to date £00.00

Well under control

:fatbastard:

 

[davidpinder]

Two wins out of two (both away). Creating chances and limiting the opposition to very few.

They can only beat the sides put in front of them. So far so good as far as I am concerned.

Whats the problem?

Got to agree with you can't believe what i am reading from some. Its common knowledge we are skint, who expected more to leave? me for one, no one expected our biggest earner to get done for rape that has stopped us selling him for one and devalued him to be worth nothing yet we will have to continue to pay his wages until everything is decided. I think we have done well to keep what players we have and also bring some in with our state and wage bill. We have won our first game 2-0 away at Oldham not the easiest of starts, then gone away to Hartlepool a place we lost 2-0 last season and went through the tie. What have people got to moan about??

UTB and i hope DW continues getting on with things and proving people wrong.

 

[beightonblade]

we don't deserve McCabe ...... and hey he doesn't deserve us !

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Got to agree with you can't believe what i am reading from some. Its common knowledge we are skint, who expected more to leave? me for one, no one expected our biggest earner to get done for rape that has stopped us selling him for one and devalued him to be worth nothing yet we will have to continue to pay his wages until everything is decided. I think we have done well to keep what players we have and also bring some in with our state and wage bill. We have won our first game 2-0 away at Oldham not the easiest of starts, then gone away to Hartlepool a place we lost 2-0 last season and went through the tie. What have people got to moan about??

UTB and i hope DW continues getting on with things and proving people wrong.

People aren't arguing against Wilson nor the reasons why players haven't moved on, the problem is that McCabe said at the end of last season that he was resigned to the fact that he might have to 'write out a few cheques' whilst things settled down. Obviously we don't know to what extent he's already doing that but to miss out on players like Kruk who will be on relative peanuts when the likelihood is that at least one of the high earners will be gone on the next couple of weeks seems unduly cautious.

As I said above, one or two injuries and we could be up sh1t creek again.

 

[davidpinder]

People aren't arguing against Wilson nor the reasons why players haven't moved on, the problem is that McCabe said at the end of last season that he was resigned to the fact that he might have to 'write out a few cheques' whilst things settled down. Obviously we don't know to what extent he's already doing that but to miss out on players like Kruk who will be on relative peanuts when the likelihood is that at least one of the high earners will be gone on the next couple of weeks seems unduly cautious.

As I said above, one or two injuries and we could be up sh1t creek again.

As i said on a different thread, i feel we have a decent size squad to handle injuries plus players coming back from injury. Kruk might not want to sit on the bench awaiting for an injury.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

As i said on a different thread, i feel we have a decent size squad to handle injuries plus players coming back from injury. Kruk might not want to sit on the bench awaiting for an injury.

I'm not sure DW wants to rely on Harry as 1st choice CB though, given the choice I think he'd rather play Lecs there although he has looked good going forward from LB so far. As I said, what cover do we have for CB / LB given an injury or two in the next few weeks ? We can't rely on the fact Morgs and Taylor may be back at some point and Kozzy may or may not sign whatever contract we've put in front of him. I just think we're taking the same risks we've taken for the last two seasons when, as we know, it all went pear shaped and we ended up funding expensive loanees.

 

[mpjacko]

Typical United and KB.

Would he run his business or make as many mistakes in his business as he does for Sheffield United? But the fact is that he has always gone for the cheap option (apart from backing BR) so why change now. Been supporting united since 97 and I have always remembered united needing a player to replace another (i.e when Brown left, Jags, Bent etc) and they either go for a cheap option, i.e Rankine or not replace them at all. How many years did NW gone on about needing a 20 goal a season striker? The amount of money wasted on the number of cheap strikers he brought in, could easily cover a good championship striker.

The fact is, whilst KM is here, nothing will change.

We all know what will happen at the end of Aug. The 3 Trialists will be all signed by other teams and then we will lose Quinn, Monty, Slew, Lowton, Mag on the last day, just hours before the window closes, leaving us with no time to sign anyone or no-one to come in. Then we will get the statement on the OS saying their wasn't anyone available at the standard we want and the loan market will open the following week.

But as I am not a "true blade" (i.e don't spend any of my money on games), I can't complain

 

[super_pig]

perhaps we should start a raffle like we did for glyn hodges

 

[beechblade]

I'm not sure DW wants to rely on Harry as 1st choice CB though, given the choice I think he'd rather play Lecs there although he has looked good going forward from LB so far. As I said, what cover do we have for CB / LB given an injury or two in the next few weeks ? We can't rely on the fact Morgs and Taylor may be back at some point and Kozzy may or may not sign whatever contract we've put in front of him. I just think we're taking the same risks we've taken for the last two seasons when, as we know, it all went pear shaped and we ended up funding expensive loanees.

At present, Parrino, also Connelly can play RB and Lowton can obviously move to CB if required as well. We also still have Warren that can come in and offer us short term cover at LB, I also feel we have more than enough adequate cover with the likes of Connor Brown and Tel Kennedy. Of course we can't rely on these two youngsters for long periods but they can do a short term job, if needs really be. We then also have Morgan, Ertl and Taylor due back eventually.

Admittedly midfield is more of a worry, if Willo, Monty and Quinn left then we lose 1 good player and 2 decent players from that line so I think McDonald is a little more of a priority. But still we have McAllister, NML, Flynn, Harriot, Gregory, Tonne, Doyle, Ertl (again when back), Jordan Chappell, and we can also look to use Philliskirk and Slew out on the wings if needs really be.

Of course some of the players I've talked about are short term solutions and we could always do with adding more experience if a long term problem occurs, but everything being thrown in this debate is looking at long terms problems, and lot of it are just if's and buts at the minute. I understand the concern due to the problems of the previous seasons and maybe taking a few risks but I think we are in a bit of a better position cover wise to last season. Don't get me wrong it isn't ideal but a little better.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

Almost every team in the football league would like more players. Most dont have as big a squad as ours!

There are sides in the Championship that are thinner on the ground than we are and they have smaller wage bills.

Seems apparent that we have a hugely top heavy wage bill which reflects on our squad (lack of defenders for one thing).

Injuries are always a worry and you know at some point we will get one or two but thats football.

I think we are a bit light as well but if the money isnt there it isnt there. Danny seems confident he could do a job with what he's got.

 

[mattbianco1]

We are an embarrassment ! Lined up three Division One class trialists McDonald, Kruk and Duke and then admit we can't afford to sign them up 'till we get rid of a high earner!
Yet we waste pounds and pounds offering Kozluk a new deal!!!
McCabe has overseen our demise, most of the faults lie at his door and yet this wealthy man stands back and lets his new manager admit that we are skint and can't afford to sign these guys!
Does McCabe want us to wallow in the third division forever playing in front of a half filled Bramall Lane or 5,6,7000 fans at best at 90% of other grounds in this division.
He appopinted Wilson, yet won't back him - no wonder we are reduced to the Maestro and Doyle as our 'best' midfield pairing !
God help us !!!

Is this a serious post?

I'm not even gonna bother getting into it. Clearly you don't understand the real world.

Just for the record Rob Kozluk drives a Toyota Auris

 

[Blade Blade]

At present, Parrino, also Connelly can play RB and Lowton can obviously move to CB if required as well. We also still have Warren that can come in and offer us short term cover at LB, I also feel we have more than enough adequate cover with the likes of Connor Brown and Tel Kennedy. Of course we can't rely on these two youngsters for long periods but they can do a short term job, if needs really be. We then also have Morgan, Ertl and Taylor due back eventually.

Admittedly midfield is more of a worry, if Willo, Monty and Quinn left then we lose 1 good player and 2 decent players from that line so I think McDonald is a little more of a priority. But still we have McAllister, NML, Flynn, Harriot, Gregory, Tonne, Doyle, Ertl (again when back), Jordan Chappell, and we can also look to use Philliskirk and Slew out on the wings if needs really be.

Of course the players I've talked about are short term solutions and we could always do with adding more experience if a long term problem occurs, but everything being thrown in this debate is looking at long terms problems, and lot of it are just if's and buts at the minute. I understand the concern due to the problems of the previous seasons and maybe taking a few risks but I think we are in a bit of a better position cover wise to last season. Don't get me wrong it isn't ideal but a little better.

Parrino as back up? He hasn't signed has he?

 

[beechblade]

Parrino as back up? He hasn't signed has he?

Signed along with NML on a 6 month loan so here till January.

 

[SotonBlade]

Signed along with NML on a 6 month loan so here till January.

I don't remember it being reported anywhere

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

At present, Parrino, also Connelly can play RB and Lowton can obviously move to CB if required as well. We also still have Warren that can come in and offer us short term cover at LB, I also feel we have more than enough adequate cover with the likes of Connor Brown and Tel Kennedy. Of course we can't rely on these two youngsters for long periods but they can do a short term job, if needs really be. We then also have Morgan, Ertl and Taylor due back eventually.

Admittedly midfield is more of a worry, if Willo, Monty and Quinn left then we lose 1 good player and 2 decent players from that line so I think McDonald is a little more of a priority. But still we have McAllister, NML, Flynn, Harriot, Gregory, Tonne, Doyle, Ertl (again when back), Jordan Chappell, and we can also look to use Philliskirk and Slew out on the wings if needs really be.

Of course some of the players I've talked about are short term solutions and we could always do with adding more experience if a long term problem occurs, but everything being thrown in this debate is looking at long terms problems, and lot of it are just if's and buts at the minute. I understand the concern due to the problems of the previous seasons and maybe taking a few risks but I think we are in a bit of a better position cover wise to last season. Don't get me wrong it isn't ideal but a little better.

Almost every team in the football league would like more players. Most dont have as big a squad as ours!

There are sides in the Championship that are thinner on the ground than we are and they have smaller wage bills.

Seems apparent that we have a hugely top heavy wage bill which reflects on our squad (lack of defenders for one thing).

Injuries are always a worry and you know at some point we will get one or two but thats football.

I think we are a bit light as well but if the money isnt there it isnt there. Danny seems confident he could do a job with what he's got.

Yes, we have a big squad with plenty of cover, if we include the youth team and development squad who have about 10 games experience between them. By the beginning of September we could end up with a fit and available squad with only a handful of players with more than 50 games under their belts.

 

[beechblade]

Yes, we have a big squad with plenty of cover, if we include the youth team and development squad who have about 10 games experience between them. By the beginning of September we could end up with a fit and available squad with only a handful of players with more than 50 games under their belts.

I'm not suggesting it's ideal Jim but it's certainly a bit more healthier than the completely dilapidated squad we had last. And as Suffax says we are far from the only team in this position, in this very league and the league above.

Look at our rivals across the city what happens if they get a few injuries like last year?


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I don't remember it being reported anywhere

Didn't it get mentioned on RS, but looking over the main site yes, nothing was confirmed, I possibly got the wrong end of the stick.

 

[Blade58]

My biggest concern is:

A] Quinny leaving, especially if it's deadline day

B] No replacement in, either because it's too late, or McDonald has gone elsewhere.

Quinny has been immense for the last 3 - 4 months of last season and has continued his form into this season. Losing him and not adequately replacing him will seriously dent what little ambition McCabe has left in him for this season.

It seems blatantly obvious and a poster has mentioned this above, that priorities this season are not aimed at promotion, but at balancing the books. A sad endictment of seasons of piss poor management of our football club

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

If we win the next two games at home, then I am confident Danny can push for top 6 with what he's got.

If off the back of that we can bring in adequate cover and a decent goal scorer I think we could push for top 2.

Its no time to get carried away I know, but its so far so good for me and confidence is building.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

I'm not suggesting it's ideal Jim but it's certainly a bit more healthier than the completely dilapidated squad we had last.

Fair enough and we've probably got more chance of getting away with it in this league than the Chumpionship. I guess it's the fear of us falling just short once again when if only.........

 

[Fiery Blade]

Is this a serious post?

I'm not even gonna bother getting into it. Clearly you don't understand the real world.

Just for the record Rob Kozluk drives a Toyota Auris

I'm afraid it is a serious post Mr Bianco 1 - after two years of McCabe and Birch having to use many loanees at huge costs in fees and wages because the squad wasn't big enough then I believe my concern at not being able to sign three squad players to bolster our already fragile defence / midfield area seems fairly understandable!

As for not understanding the real world I actually live near Sheffield, as real as it gets !!! not Timbuctu where obviously things are seen in a different light!

Also what has Rob Kozluk's mode of transport got to do with anything - it may have been his wifes/girlfriends car for all anybody knows - last time I saw him driving down the M1 he was driving a Range Rover - does the make of car he drives improve his defensive qualities??? The mind boggles!

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Is this a serious post?

I'm not even gonna bother getting into it. Clearly you don't understand the real world.

Just for the record Rob Kozluk drives a Toyota Auris

Does he have nice alloys?

 

[Jonboy60]

If DW did indeed want Mcdonald and co, and was told there's no money. Then who's goin to be hit by said stick if and when it goes tits up,Mcabe, course not, everyones favourite scape-goat THE MANAGER.

 

[DuncDisorderly]

If DW did indeed want Mcdonald and co, and was told there's no money. Then who's goin to be hit by said stick if and when it goes tits up,Mcabe, course not, everyones favourite scape-goat THE MANAGER.

Thats right. I mean, no-one criticises McCabe do they..?

 

[Jonboy60]

Plenty are goin to blame Mcabe and rightly so,me included but plenty are gonna be calling for the ex pig managers head, why,don't think he's asking for the earth.

 

[mattbianco1]

Also what has Rob Kozluk's mode of transport got to do with anything - it may have been his wifes/girlfriends car for all anybody knows - last time I saw him driving down the M1 he was driving a Range Rover - does the make of car he drives improve his defensive qualities??? The mind boggles!

My point being - Does MacDonald and Kruk only demand enough wages to drive an electric car too?

Must be his wife's car though as the number plate was RK02 LUK

 

[blade too long]

THERES CLUBS IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP thats spent less than we have
theres clubs who have never had the relevant success we had in the last decade
yes its disappointing to be in league one


but leeds charlton southampton leeds forest and others have spent time here our erstwhile neighbours have spent longer here than us
the aim is to use it as a springboard to better times
not continually try and pile blame on people

 

[DuncDisorderly]

Plenty are goin to blame Mcabe and rightly so,me included but plenty are gonna be calling for the ex pig managers head, why,don't think he's asking for the earth.

Not asking for the earth? Well, for a few pounds more, maybe we could get one that might be a bit better. But for a lot more money, we could get one that might be a lot better, yes? ...and thats the logic that has us where we are. Down a hole, trying to shed millions off the wage bill whilst the geniuses have us buying in more players who can't get a game anywhere else, seemingly to prove we have as big a dick as everyone else. (Are we really jealous that the piggies have signed Rochdales crocked striker for £350k? Really..? Does no-one remember how/why we bought Ryan France? Lesson, anyone?)

Meanwhile, McCabe has no choice but to underwrite this years losses to the tune of, erm... more than most people earn in a lifetime, and continue to do so on into the future until the big contracts have expired or been shifted out. Yeh, McCabe out. Booooooo..!

Danny Wilson. 'Ex-pig' he might be, but for good or ill, he's one of ours now. The 'plenty' who will call for his head (and I have no doubt they will at some point) are part of the reason we are here too...

 

[Fiery Blade]

Unfortunately, Dunc, McCabe put the Blades in this position.
A very wealthy man who built his fortune via property and bought a football club - only to display a complete lack of business sense in the football world - not the first or the last businessman to fail at football
Yes, he has more money than you or I but does that make him a better chairman?
Who sanctioned the big contracts, who appointed Robson, Blackwell, Adams and Speed, who sold Beattie when the Blades were on the brink of automatic promotion
Sorry Dunc, you cannot defend the man - we are where we are because he was in charge!
Yes, Wilson is in charge, not my choice, McCabes choice don't blame the fans for where the Blades are - it rests with McCabe but Hey he's SUPERBLADE!!

 

[Ollessendro]

Not asking for the earth? Well, for a few pounds more, maybe we could get one that might be a bit better. But for a lot more money, we could get one that might be a lot better, yes? ...and thats the logic that has us where we are. Down a hole, trying to shed millions off the wage bill whilst the geniuses have us buying in more players who can't get a game anywhere else, seemingly to prove we have as big a dick as everyone else. (Are we really jealous that the piggies have signed Rochdales crocked striker for £350k? Really..? Does no-one remember how/why we bought Ryan France? Lesson, anyone?)

Meanwhile, McCabe has no choice but to underwrite this years losses to the tune of, erm... more than most people earn in a lifetime, and continue to do so on into the future until the big contracts have expired or been shifted out. Yeh, McCabe out. Booooooo..!

Danny Wilson. 'Ex-pig' he might be, but for good or ill, he's one of ours now. The 'plenty' who will call for his head (and I have no doubt they will at some point) are part of the reason we are here too...

Dunc! Welcome back.

How timely. I was arranging a (real ale and proper footall loving Blades) pre match drink on Saturday. Fancy it?

 

[DuncDisorderly]

Unfortunately, Dunc, McCabe put the Blades in this position.
A very wealthy man who built his fortune via property and bought a football club - only to display a complete lack of business sense in the football world - not the first or the last businessman to fail at football
Yes, he has more money than you or I but does that make him a better chairman?
Who sanctioned the big contracts, who appointed Robson, Blackwell, Adams and Speed, who sold Beattie when the Blades were on the brink of automatic promotion
Sorry Dunc, you cannot defend the man - we are where we are because he was in charge!
Yes, Wilson is in charge, not my choice, McCabes choice don't blame the fans for where the Blades are - it rests with McCabe but Hey he's SUPERBLADE!!

You need to seperate the man and his actions. Good people make mistakes. Making a mistake does not make you a bad person. Thats really a childish logic. I'm not defending the individual errors that have been made by McCabe and others at the club (although you should at least acknowledge that all humans who make decisions get some wrong, sometimes with consequences that go far beyond the importance of the issue being decided).

Anyway, its his doorstep, his shit, and he's got the bucket and mop out and is paying dearly to clean it up. We should at least be grateful that he hasn't just said feck it and washed his hands of us to the first Asian syndicate who comes knocking...

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Dunc! Welcome back.

How timely. I was arranging a (real ale and proper footall loving Blades) pre match drink on Saturday. Fancy it?

I haven't forgotten that you started a thread encouraging all the negative posters to come across to BladesReunited and bombard me with the same crap I got bored with on here. What was it, 'just a bit of fun'? Bit 'playground bully', don't you think?

Thanks but I decline your invite. Personally I'm a cider man now on the odd occasions I drink, and I couldn't give a shit about the subtleties of formation and team selection. Professional football is about winning, everything else is bullshit...