Slagging off Sheffield utd

[blade too long]

I know nowt but here’s my take on club sale etc.

Positives
- He’s still funding shortfalls although he is now desperate for break even (eg Blackman sale, wages reduced this season, will only appoint a cheap manager next)

- I doubt he would sell to someone unfit to run the club (ie the Portsmouth scenario). Just my opinion.

Negatives

- He’s hoping an investment partner only interested in football will turn up (their reward only comes if they can somehow drive the club to the Premier League. They might also then be able to buy the stadium etc)

- He has already prepared for this scenario by moving assets to the plc. I’ve also been doing some digging on the plc structure and found that in November 2010, they set up 3 new subsidiaries: Steel City Stadium Ltd, Steel City Arena Ltd and Steel City Ltd. None of these have ever traded and indeed were lined up for Dissolution on 4 April 2012 but the plc had the Compulsory Strike off cancelled on 7 April 2012. They must be there for some reason and is the clue not in their titles ? The letter to shareholders telling them about the asset transfer was July 2012. Now I am no expert in this area but these look like vehicles to make a commercial leasing work should KM choose to sell the Football Club. I could of course be completely wrong, it’s just my guess

- Option 2 is perhaps a billionaire with more money than sense might want to buy SUFC – dream on it won’t happen

- Meanwhile he is gradually driving the wage bill down so he doesn’t have to fund any further operational shortfall. If the next manager achieves promotion he is in a better position

- That’s why I think it is taking so long as he won’t take a huge loss on the assets

- I think another reason why investors aren’t yet ready to part with cash is the Tevez money. That is supposed to be settled in full in the next month or two. I am assuming this matches the Santander loan which will also disappear and therefore no outside interest will have a charge on the assets (my remaining worry is WHU have said final payment of £6.25M but the Santander debt appears to be £8.5M, I’m not certain they do exactly match)

a fine assessment. without the unnecessary hysteria or claims mccabe is weedling it all away
asset movement is what PLCs do,

hes a good business man , thats why hes selling us, as Ive said I want him to go ,but, in the hope we have worthy replacement, all fans want is success on the pitch, we shouldnt need to discuss the accounts

 

[Balham]

I meant half ( VAGUELY) repaid wasnt sure on the exact figuye bot some blades, HAVE ADDED 20M TO 4 OR 5 SEASONS SINCE THE RULING SO iM NOT AS FAR OUT AS SOME

Is this in response to me?

You were as far out as you could be. You implied that we still had some income to come from West Ham when we haven't. It's been spent.

 

[ZoneManWilf]

hes a good business man , thats why hes selling us

all fans want is success on the pitch

Maybe therein lies the problem, at least over the last 6 years.

If his business decisions in bringing the club to where it is in terms of facilities are to be commended as well as his cash funding, his failure to provide a strategic, long term model for success on the pitch should be open to question. And we're a football club, it's the main aim of the organisation to succeed on the pitch, it's his (and I guess the Football Club's board) responsibility there too.

 

[blade too long]

but that is the problem
he is a good business man and a blade
but hes not so hot on picking managers , he tries, but to be fair hes had some horrendous bad luck , noticeably the team cheating in the prem was brookings west ham # Speed falling in love with Wales
and ched,
Robson was a calamitous mistake ,but to be fair he got shot

 

[ghandi]

well said. I believe the Aussie twat applied for the job rather than us approaching him. Probably spat his dummy out when he realised that SUFC didnt really see him as a real candidate for the job. I couldnt believe how the doom mongers jumped in as soon as the twat made his statement rather than wait for the other side of the story

He was asked to apply.

 

[metalblade]

but that is the problem
he is a good business man and a blade
but hes not so hot on picking managers , he tries, but to be fair hes had some horrendous bad luck , noticeably the team cheating in the prem was brookings west ham # Speed falling in love with Wales
and ched,
Robson was a calamitous mistake ,but to be fair he got shot

Have you been out too long in the Spanish sun ?
My God, you really do come out with some utter utter shite and like McCabe you do it over and over again.

 

[Silent Blade]

He was asked to apply.

who asked him to apply? Dont think anyone expected him to ask for £500K a year!

 

[United Aren't Back.]

I know it's quite the thing to do at the moment to slag our club off ,but can't we leave that to the opposition ,the hatred and bile on here to our club is a joke. We haven't offered anyone the job yet as far as we are aware but candidates who have probably no chance are being believed talking shit and slagging our club off for their own agenda. Any negative is gobbled up with glee and broadcast from so many on here ,if you hate utd as much as you appear to why bother ? We have problems and we know what they are but repeating them again and again with such relish is unbelievable to me ,to the extent that some are actually bragging about not going again. Well bully for you fuck off and enjoy your Saturdays with jeff spelling or marks and spencer no doubt you will still be back to tell us how shit we are from your armchair next season. UTB

you go and watch morgan`s wonders next season and make sure you have a good time there.

 

[sitwell]

you go and watch morgan`s wonders next season and make sure you have a good time there.

I would ,what will you be doing ?

 

[United Aren't Back.]

I would ,what will you be doing ?

Watching from the upper corner...and you?

 

[sitwell]

Ill be there with my daughter and my mates,having a good time.

 

[Pinchy]

I would ,what will you be doing ?

Well, he can come and play golf with me if he wants.

We know we are not going to win the Champions League, but we at least want to be entertained by a team trying to play the game properly. Instead we are treated like numpties and, guess what, that's exactly what we deserve, because some of you are so lacking in pride in our club that you'll dutifully doff your flat caps, tug your forelocks and humbly accept that good football is not for the likes of us. Consequently you'll get what you ask for - Sunday League level rubbish with a bunch of latter-day Monties tirelessly chasing the shadows of superior players from Swindon, Crawley, Orient and other powerhouses of the game.

Hoof away merrily if you must, but please do it quietly - I'm concentrating on this tricky six foot putt.

 

[alcoblade]

Well, he can come and play golf with me if he wants.

We know we are not going to win the Champions League, but we at least want to be entertained by a team trying to play the game properly. Instead we are treated like numpties and, guess what, that's exactly what we deserve, because some of you are so lacking in pride in our club that you'll dutifully doff your flat caps, tug your forelocks and humbly accept that good football is not for the likes of us. Consequently you'll get what you ask for - Sunday League level rubbish with a bunch of latter-day Monties tirelessly chasing the shadows of superior players from Swindon, Crawley, Orient and other powerhouses of the game.

Hoof away merrily if you must, but please do it quietly - I'm concentrating on this tricky six foot putt.

So you'd rather the delights that Wilson brought us last season over which season under Warnock?

UTB

 

[Pinchy]

So you'd rather the delights that Wilson brought us last season over which season under Warnock?

UTB

It's a "when did you stop beating your wife?" question. Wilson's team did not play proper football last season. It was defensive, dull and ultimately dire. It was almost Blackwellian at times. Passing across the back four is no good unless it's then played seamlessly into midfield and, in turn, to the attacking third. Four or five passes followed by a Maguire or Collins aimless 60 yard punt is simply delayed Hoof - not proper football at all.

Warnock was manifestly out of his depth in the Premiership season. In any event, his time has been and gone. I know we Blades are terrified to move outside our lovely S2 backyard, but can't we at least look over the wall now and then?

 

[alcoblade]

It's a "when did you stop beating your wife?" question. Wilson's team did not play proper football last season. It was defensive, dull and ultimately dire. It was almost Blackwellian at times. Passing across the back four is no good unless it's then played seamlessly into midfield and, in turn, to the attacking third. Four or five passes followed by a Maguire or Collins aimless 60 yard punt is simply delayed Hoof - not proper football at all.


Warnock was manifestly out of his depth in the Premiership season. In any event, his time has been and gone. I know we Blades are terrified to move outside our lovely S2 backyard, but can't we at least look over the wall now and then?

You can look in whatever way you choose, it's still telling that Wilson's attempt at flowing football last season would finish off just about every Blade, but attendances were on a constant upward curve under Warnock's football.

Oh to be arguing about being out of our depth, or not, in the premiership. At no stage have I wanted Warnock back, but that's probably going to look extremely daft come the actual appointment.

UTB

 

[blade too long]

Have you been out too long in the Spanish sun ?
My God, you really do come out with some utter utter shite and like McCabe you do it over and over again.

au contraire I just dont subscribe to the ludicrous theory he is trying not just to recoup his losses but bleed us dry spouted by some numpties
I have said I want him out hes had his time , 3 years too much , but its the lack of fresh income thats frustrating for everyone and so turning on him is out of order, understandable to a degree , but some have turned it into a hate fest.
We are at a low ebb in the cycle of our football history so lets all bash the chairman, he showed us the prem but hes turned on us and wants to destroy us , is not really that believeable is it

What really rubs up most blades is that wednesday are above us , be honest its made the mccabe bashing ramp up tenfold, let it go , it will turn

 

[Micalijo]

Ill be there with my daughter and my mates,having a good time.

And the award for THE BIGGEST BLADE of all time goes to Sitwell. Everyone else can eff off as far as I am concerned.

Love United Hate McCabe

 

[Micalijo]

au contraire I just dont subscribe to the ludicrous theory he is trying not just to recoup his losses but bleed us dry spouted by some numpties
I have said I want him out hes had his time , 3 years too much , but its the lack of fresh income thats frustrating for everyone and so turning on him is out of order, understandable to a degree , but some have turned it into a hate fest.
We are at a low ebb in the cycle of our football history so lets all bash the chairman, he showed us the prem but hes turned on us and wants to destroy us , is not really that believeable is it

What really rubs up most blades is that wednesday are above us , be honest its made the mccabe bashing ramp up tenfold, let it go , it will turn

You really have got yer sen into a right muddle btl. Are you sure you are OK?

You say nobody will buy the club without the ground - which is 100% true I am sure - but seem to forgive McStripper for doing exactly what you say is hindering his longed for departure from our beloved club.

I just don't get it. As stated elsewhere, he has transferred the ground so that he can lease it to whichever mug buys the club. Or if a new owner tells him to sod off he can build some flats or a supermarket on it. All of this is perfectly acceptable in terms of a bloke looking after his family's wealth but it is no good to me as a Blade and when you add in his incompetence in terms of appointing people to run his club the bile and vitriol he receives is understandable

 

[Micalijo]

Well, he can come and play golf with me if he wants.

We know we are not going to win the Champions League, but we at least want to be entertained by a team trying to play the game properly. Instead we are treated like numpties and, guess what, that's exactly what we deserve, because some of you are so lacking in pride in our club that you'll dutifully doff your flat caps, tug your forelocks and humbly accept that good football is not for the likes of us. Consequently you'll get what you ask for - Sunday League level rubbish with a bunch of latter-day Monties tirelessly chasing the shadows of superior players from Swindon, Crawley, Orient and other powerhouses of the game.

Hoof away merrily if you must, but please do it quietly - I'm concentrating on this tricky six foot putt.

Truly top stuff as usual Pinchy.

 

[Darren]

Well, he can come and play golf with me if he wants.

We know we are not going to win the Champions League, but we at least want to be entertained by a team trying to play the game properly. Instead we are treated like numpties and, guess what, that's exactly what we deserve, because some of you are so lacking in pride in our club that you'll dutifully doff your flat caps, tug your forelocks and humbly accept that good football is not for the likes of us. Consequently you'll get what you ask for - Sunday League level rubbish with a bunch of latter-day Monties tirelessly chasing the shadows of superior players from Swindon, Crawley, Orient and other powerhouses of the game.

Hoof away merrily if you must, but please do it quietly - I'm concentrating on this tricky six foot putt.

Like, I suspect, 95% of United fans, I don't give a flying fuck as to whether people consider United's football to be "good". I want us to win.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Like, I suspect, 95% of United fans, I don't give a flying fuck as to whether people consider United's football to be "good". I want us to win.

At this level, I just want us to try to win as opposed to try and avoid losing.

 

[blade too long]

I just don't get it. As stated elsewhere, he has transferred the ground so that he can lease it to whichever mug buys the club. Or if a new owner tells him to sod off he can build some flats or a supermarket on it. All of this is perfectly acceptable in terms of a bloke looking after his family's wealth but it is no good to me as a Blade and when you add in his incompetence in terms of appointing people to run his club the bile and vitriol he receives is understandable

NOW WHOS IN A MUDDLE

lease it
not even an option , its a myth to further a view thats built on hate
it has no substance , if you can prove 100% he intends to claim the ground and lease it , publish it or shut up

plc s will move assetts around for various reasons, mainly tax related
your conspiracy theories are tiresome, unsupported and plain wrong

his appointments havent all been wrong unless you didnt enjoy any of 2003 - 2006
we were above the pigs for a decade , yes it isnt nice to be behind now, but lets keep our heads

 

[sitwell]

And the award for THE BIGGEST BLADE of all time goes to Sitwell. Everyone else can eff off as far as I am concerned.

Love United Hate McCabe

Didn't I ask you not to respond ,I haven't with you ,we have nothing in common so just go away until you grow up.

 

[sitwell]

Well, he can come and play golf with me if he wants.

We know we are not going to win the Champions League, but we at least want to be entertained by a team trying to play the game properly. Instead we are treated like numpties and, guess what, that's exactly what we deserve, because some of you are so lacking in pride in our club that you'll dutifully doff your flat caps, tug your forelocks and humbly accept that good football is not for the likes of us. Consequently you'll get what you ask for - Sunday League level rubbish with a bunch of latter-day Monties tirelessly chasing the shadows of superior players from Swindon, Crawley, Orient and other powerhouses of the game.

Hoof away merrily if you must, but please do it quietly - I'm concentrating on this tricky six foot putt.

Really haven't got a clue what you are on about ,you've got yourself tied up in a knot you cant get out of.

 

[DazBlade88]

Like, I suspect, 95% of United fans, I don't give a flying fuck as to whether people consider United's football to be "good". I want us to win.

I'm sort of the same as you and Sothall_Blade with this.

I don't care what style it is as long as it's remotely entertaining. I think football costs too much money these days to be happy with watching shite, defensive football. Long/short doesn't bother me as long as we try and attack and we see some goals or at least goalmouth action.

I look at our squad and see a good defence with a shocking selection of attacking players, which I really hate. If it was the other way around I wouldn't be that bothered because at least I know it should be entertaining.

 

[blade too long]

Football is only entertaining when your winning.
Take Arsenal , their style has been lauded for years, yet ManUtds never say die attitude triumphs on a regular basis , substance over style, good football is simple, score just 1 more goal than the team your playing, Ive seen Man Utd be second best on the park in hundreds of games , but they ended up winning nearly all of them , with eye pleasing football , nah, guts desire never say die attitude , apparently thats the best type of football. look whos names on footballs top prize
The new european champions , are more ruthlessly efficient than play passing moves of 7 /8 passes , why , because they win more games that way

 

[Bladesway]

Ill be there with my daughter and my mates,having a good time.

I'm in shock here.

 

[Bladesway]

So you'd rather the delights that Wilson brought us last season over which season under Warnock?

UTB

No, I would rather we had seen the delights that Wilson brought us the season before. You know before all his best players were sold/locked up.

 

[Grecian2000]

Ive seen Man Utd be second best on the park in hundreds of games , but they ended up winning nearly all of them

Even for you BTL, that's verging on the ridiculous.

I've never seen them "live" when they've been outplayed and won (as that would mean it's been against us and I can't think of one time we've outplayed them and lost), and if I've seen it a dozen times on TV that would be exagerating.
They win because they have the best players and play a brand of football MOST other teams can't cope with. They're not always at THEIR best but this just brings them down to 10% better than the opposition as opposed to the usual 25%.

 

[ghandi]

NOW WHOS IN A MUDDLE

lease it
not even an option , its a myth to further a view thats built on hate
it has no substance , if you can prove 100% he intends to claim the ground and lease it , publish it or shut up

plc s will move assetts around for various reasons, mainly tax related
your conspiracy theories are tiresome, unsupported and plain wrong

his appointments havent all been wrong unless you didnt enjoy any of 2003 - 2006
we were above the pigs for a decade , yes it isnt nice to be behind now, but lets keep our heads

Are you sure I thought the assets had been moved from SUFC PLC to Scarborough.