Slagging off Sheffield utd

[sitwell]

I know it's quite the thing to do at the moment to slag our club off ,but can't we leave that to the opposition ,the hatred and bile on here to our club is a joke. We haven't offered anyone the job yet as far as we are aware but candidates who have probably no chance are being believed talking shit and slagging our club off for their own agenda. Any negative is gobbled up with glee and broadcast from so many on here ,if you hate utd as much as you appear to why bother ? We have problems and we know what they are but repeating them again and again with such relish is unbelievable to me ,to the extent that some are actually bragging about not going again. Well bully for you fuck off and enjoy your Saturdays with jeff spelling or marks and spencer no doubt you will still be back to tell us how shit we are from your armchair next season. UTB

 

[Finance Blade]

Well said.

 

[TarquinDelouche]

So what you mean is you only want to hear things that give you warm fuzzies inside? Good luck with that.

 

[blade too long]

So what you mean is you only want to hear things that give you warm fuzzies inside? Good luck with that.

quite the opposite we dont want to hear united fans making things up from here say
legitimate well founded criticism is welcome, nay encouraged
but taking a starting point of we are shit , then adding to it is being over used

theres a subtle line between criticism and slagging off , its been crossed

there are many points to which there are concerns, large concerns
but the first option seems to be hurl abuse and criticism and rake up old moans

 

[blade too long]

the club has not commented on any candidate for the job, that is the way it should be for any job
yet some are building a case for us heading into a calamitous future where the conference beckons
these people are not motivational speakers thats for sure

most blades fans will test for A or B very negative in any blood test

 

[StarBlade]

There's a massive difference to slagging off United to slagging off McCabe and his board.

SUFC are the face of the failure of a small group of people and everyone of us knows what's caused it, and how we got here. Every mistake those people make, we pay and yes, we do pay. We pay with tickets, we pay with buying shirts, we pay in fuel money etc. We might not pay £M's, but by all means tell us to go away because the only difference between United being a big club in league 1 to an average club is that the fans are still turning up.

I'll happily slag the board off all day, it doesn't make me less of a Blade.

Sure we believe third parties who have had dealings with the Club (read, a small group of people), else all you will hear is how we have a new wonderful alternative youth potion that will knock your socks off.

 

[Rudders]

I think the right to publically criticise our club, can only be earnt through previous devotion to the cause. And it should be constructive and balanced. Idiots like Arnold have no right.

 

[dingledog]

While understanding your view point, I think a lot if it is just venting frustration, not just about the overly long managerial appointment but at seeing something that is an integral part if your identity constantly let you down. I guess it's akin to labeling, and lots of people are wearisome, me included. I've renewed two season tickets and will be there and supporting us away as well. But I can understand why people haven't renewed, money is tight, and people need value for money.

I could go on but I'm falling into the trap of repeating what's already be said lots if times. There is not just one way to support the blades, we all do it in different ways that suits our circumstances.

 

[Houso]

As many will gladly (not little smugly) attest to, I've tried to put a happy face on everything and defend the club to the hilt for the last decade plus.

I've now been worn down to the nub and I can't summon the enthusiasm nor belief to find anything positive with the club any more.

 

[bartman]

I'll happily slag the board off all day,

.

Really ? You are happy to slag your club off all day ? You don't mean this do you ? I hope this was just a poor choice of words

I hate to be critical of the club even when certain aspects of it are deserved (like the Board and McCabe)

I would be happy to praise the club all day but unfortunately,that is a long way off at the moment

 

[StarBlade]

Really ? You are happy to slag your club off all day ? You don't mean this do you ? I hope this was just a poor choice of words

I hate to be critical of the club even when certain aspects of it are deserved (like the Board and McCabe)

I would be happy to praise the club all day but unfortunately,that is a long way off at the moment

Re-read. The board is not the club.

 

[bartman]

Re-read. The board is not the club.

Apologies

 

[blade too long]

People who want to blame McCabe and the board for everything, keep forgetting
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ground-for-sheffield-united-sale-1972828.html
hes wanted out for over 3 years , its not his fault no one else wanted to buy us , is it

We have all known for some time he doesnt want to put any more in. just slagging him off doesnt alter anything
Frustrating it is most definitely , but hes sat there waiting for someone else to carry the burden.
All the whining falls on deaf ears as hes just a vendor awaiting to sell, Id moan too , but its pointless
We are limited because of it, but we are not alone , theres 70 other clubs in pretty similar circumstances
The investment we were seeking 4 years ago , still noticeable by its absence

 

[Latters]

People who want to blame McCabe and the board for everything, keep forgetting
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ground-for-sheffield-united-sale-1972828.html
hes wanted out for over 3 years , its not his fault no one else wanted to buy us , is it

Well yes, actually, it is. If the club still owned its own ground, the hotel and the enterprise centre thing, we might actually find somebody who thinks there's potential to make money in us. Instead, since he bought millions of pounds of assets for about £2.45, they'd be buying only the football side (a League 1 football side with jack shit in terms of good players and potential), with no physical or money making assets. Nobody's going to want to do that. Football clubs, especially ones with no assets, don't make money.

 

[blade too long]

hogwash , theres reasons for moving assetts about, anyone who would buy the club will get the lot
who in their right minds would pay 30 million say for just the name, the only thing worth anything is the ground

 

[Latters]

hogwash , theres reasons for moving assetts about, anyone who would buy the club will get the lot
who in their right minds would pay 30 million say for just the name

Who indeed. What makes you so certain they would get the lot? There's money to be made by McCabe from charging new owners rent on the ground. As we've surely come to realise, if there's money to be made for McC, he'll do what he can to make it.

 

[TarquinDelouche]

Who indeed. What makes you so certain they would get the lot? There's money to be made by McCabe from charging new owners rent on the ground. As we've surely come to realise, if there's money to be made for McC, he'll do what he can to make it.

If everything was done on the advice of PWC would you admit you know less than you speak of?

 

[StarBlade]

People who want to blame McCabe and the board for everything, keep forgetting
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ground-for-sheffield-united-sale-1972828.html
hes wanted out for over 3 years , its not his fault no one else wanted to buy us , is it

We have all known for some time he doesnt want to put any more in. just slagging him off doesnt alter anything
Frustrating it is most definitely , but hes sat there waiting for someone else to carry the burden.
All the whining falls on deaf ears as hes just a vendor awaiting to sell, Id moan too , but its pointless
We are limited because of it, but we are not alone , theres 70 other clubs in pretty similar circumstances
The investment we were seeking 4 years ago , still noticeable by its absence

While trying not to turn this into a McCabe bashing thread, it will become one.

I want to sell my house for £1M, it's not worth it but you can't blame me for trying. It's been 5 years on the market, but I reckon there's someone out there who'll buy it. You can't criticise me for trying, after all, investments should always be returned in full without any loss. Any criticism of me is unfair. Any decision I make to strengthen my individual position while making my house less stable is also unfair, and my decisions to sell the doors and windows I believe will allow a buyer to put their own stamp on the house, thus making someone wishing to buy my house far more probable.

And, for the record, anyone slagging off the Tories should fuck off back to their own country. And, if they happen to be Brits, well, they can just leave as we don't want anyone criticising those in charge making day to day decisions. Criticism of the Tory Party is Criticism of the Country as far as I'm concerned and akin to Treason.

 

[Jon Bon]

Well bully for you fuck off and enjoy your Saturdays with jeff spelling or marks and spencer no doubt you will still be back to tell us how shit we are from your armchair next season. UTB

Would you like me to pick you up some Vaseline from Boots while I'm at Meadowhall - seeing as how you're so content to be shafted up the arse by the club?

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

There's slagging off for slagging off's sake which plenty do but there's also justifiable concern when you hear comments like those made by Arnold. We don't know how true those comments are but if there's any shred of truth in there then the club deserve all they get.

 

[Pinchy]

I know it's quite the thing to do at the moment to slag our club off ,but can't we leave that to the opposition ,the hatred and bile on here to our club is a joke. We haven't offered anyone the job yet as far as we are aware but candidates who have probably no chance are being believed talking shit and slagging our club off for their own agenda. Any negative is gobbled up with glee and broadcast from so many on here ,if you hate utd as much as you appear to why bother ? We have problems and we know what they are but repeating them again and again with such relish is unbelievable to me ,to the extent that some are actually bragging about not going again. Well bully for you fuck off and enjoy your Saturdays with jeff spelling or marks and spencer no doubt you will still be back to tell us how shit we are from your armchair next season. UTB

What did Arnold say that constituted "talking shit"? Uncomfortable truths about a continuing reliance on a wholly discredited style of non-football and a washed-up hoofball merchant, who should not be allowed within 100 miles of modern football, may be unwelcome but it's far from "shit".

Don't shoot the messenger. Wake up to the message!

 

[Latters]

If everything was done on the advice of PWC would you admit you know less than you speak of?

Well, that all depends on the brief. If McCabe has appointed them, they are trying to maximise his gain.

They might have asked him if he needed to sell quickly or if he could afford to hang onto it until someone foolish enough comes along. They will have advised him that retaining the assets will give him the greatest return in the long term.

 

[alcoblade]

People who want to blame McCabe and the board for everything, keep forgetting
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ground-for-sheffield-united-sale-1972828.html
hes wanted out for over 3 years , its not his fault no one else wanted to buy us , is it

We have all known for some time he doesnt want to put any more in. just slagging him off doesnt alter anything
Frustrating it is most definitely , but hes sat there waiting for someone else to carry the burden.
All the whining falls on deaf ears as hes just a vendor awaiting to sell, Id moan too , but its pointless
We are limited because of it, but we are not alone , theres 70 other clubs in pretty similar circumstances
The investment we were seeking 4 years ago , still noticeable by its absence

Yes, it is his fault because his piss poor decisions have made us a poor nvestment, thus far.

UTB

 

[blade too long]

Yes, it is his fault because his piss poor decisions have made us a poor nvestment, thus far.

UTB

what decisions , when he said he wanted out we were 8th in the championship, we have slipped back , but again its down to investment starvation , that its not entirely his fault, hes made it clear its up for sale and hes not putting any more in, so to slag him off is pointless ,we are and remain a better investment than a lot of clubs, potential to match any club, but need the money to do it

 

[blade too long]

What did Arnold say that constituted "talking shit"? Uncomfortable truths about a continuing reliance on a wholly discredited style of non-football and a washed-up hoofball merchant

Don't shoot the messenger. Wake up to the message!

And wheres the proof that the selection committee said we want to go down the hoof it route, nay insist that we play that way . When do managers NOT select the style of play
heres some dick that wanted a 500k salary getting rebuffed throwing out bullshit,

 

[Bladesman]

Yes, it is his fault because his piss poor decisions have made us a poor nvestment, thus far.

UTB

When he wanted to sell we were actually in a good position to be bought yet he still couldn't sell. In the mean time a dozen clubs have been bought since. The difference with McCabe is he is holding for money he won't get.

Other clubs have mostly been bought out for fuck all though e.g. Wednesday.

 

[Kev Gee]

People who want to blame McCabe and the board for everything, keep forgetting
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ground-for-sheffield-united-sale-1972828.html
hes wanted out for over 3 years , its not his fault no one else wanted to buy us , is it

Maybe if he dropped his asking price, them someone may come in.
Hes in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks he will ever get his money back by selling up.

 

[blade too long]

Well McCabes pumped in loads to build up the club
mandaric bought the owls for a quid because of their debt to the co op and the rusty state of hillsborough

Bramall Lane is an up to date Arena due to recent investment , , that has to be worked into any sale

Are you saying he should let us go for 5 million like strafford tried to unload the owls to some yank asset strippers
he knows hell be lucky to get 20/25 million back , which is even more reason why hes not putting any more in

Think about it would you put a new engine in an old car to sell it

 

[Coily]

And wheres the proof that the selection committee said we want to go down the hoof it route, nay insist that we play that way . When do managers NOT select the style of play
heres some dick that wanted a 500k salary getting rebuffed throwing out bullshit,

This didn't read right about Arnold's account. I just don't see that any interviewer on being told the interviewees vision would directly disagree, "Oh no no no, Mr Arnold, we require the ball to be hoofed! Your pitter patter ideas are not what we desire...". If he wasn't the man - and let's all be glad that he isn't - there would be a few nods and smiles, and once the meeting was over his CV would make a beeline to the SUFC shredder.

It just reads like an account of the scorned applicant trying to convince everyone that he didn't want the job anyway. Using Bassett with his long ball past is a convenient angle.

 

[Latters]

Think about it would you put a new engine in an old car to sell it

You would either do that to make it saleable or you would lower your asking price to reflect the fact that it's knackered.

To carry on the analogy, McCabe is selling a Proton Persona, but before he sells it, he's taken the bodywork off, but he's trying to sell it for the price of a fully functioning 5 Series, just because he's had to pay a lot for repairs in the past.