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Oh dear people have different views! If it wasn't sky it would be someone else too.The love for Sky on this thread![]()
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You love sky well doneOh dear people have different views! If it wasn't sky it would be someone else too.
Just looking over our fixtures and in November/December we only have two non televised games.
Anyone know how much more the TV deal is worth per club?!
I use SkyGo (my parents pay for it) and I’m not sure I’d recommend any sort of “official” streaming. Major advantage of sky through satellite for me is that it’s near enough in real time, so if you like to look online, bet etc at the same time you don’t get spoilers. You don’t get that through the streaming.
You can only get it if you're outside the UK - because of sky+ . Doesn't answer the question but in case you didn't knowHow much is SUTV pass today it’s on website but doesn’t say price.
6 cameras instead of 4 now and I think you can pause and rewind too! Fancy eh!The new Sky + appears to be like the old red button but in HD. I hope there are replays and more cameras than on the red button as on occasions it appeared to be filmed by the work experience person with a hand held camera!
Looks like there's more than one game on Sky Sport+ tonight. Barnsley and Chesterfield's games are also being televised. If you have Sky Sports or the Sky app there will probably be multiple Sky+ channels but there seems to be only one Sky+ option in my IPTV Sky folder. Presumably it will have our game (as well as the Preston and SUFC channels in the EFL folder)
Looks like there's more than one game on Sky Sport+ tonight. Barnsley and Chesterfield's games are also being televised. If you have Sky Sports or the Sky app there will probably be multiple Sky+ channels but there seems to be only one Sky+ option in my IPTV Sky folder. Presumably it will have our game (as well as the Preston and SUFC channels in the EFL folder)
Oh dear people have different views! If it wasn't sky it would be someone else too.
Just looking over our fixtures and in November/December we only have two non televised games.
Anyone know how much more the TV deal is worth per club?!
I was looking at that - from 2nd Oct to 29th Nov we are on 9 times. I was wondering about maybe getting monthly Now TV passes for that couple of months then cancelling it for a while. Pricey at £34.99 a month (or can get for £26 but you have to commit for 6 months) but works out < £8 a game which is cheaper than SUTV (depending on how many games I go to - evening games are out for me now due to train timetable changes).
I was looking at that - from 2nd Oct to 29th Nov we are on 9 times. I was wondering about maybe getting monthly Now TV passes for that couple of months then cancelling it for a while. Pricey at £34.99 a month (or can get for £26 but you have to commit for 6 months) but works out < £8 a game which is cheaper than SUTV (depending on how many games I go to - evening games are out for me now due to train timetable changes).
All 12 Sky Sports channels. Every Sky Sports+ stream.I assume Now TV will only show the main game..
I assume Now TV will only show the main game..
As above, you can't watch live on sutv anymore unless you're outside of UK (VPN?) in case you're not aware;
"Owing to changes made as part of the new broadcasting rights cycle, supporters in the UK, Republic of Ireland and Channel Isles can no longer stream live matches through SUTV.
Supporters based outside of these territories will be able to video stream Sheffield United matches this season, providing those matches are not being broadcasted in their region elsewhere. Video streaming packages are available as seasonal and one-off match passes."
Channel 427 for anyone on EEtv
View attachment 189993
Same on mine. It'll be like before, just finding it in the EFL folders (I have 2 on mine)Looks like there's more than one game on Sky Sport+ tonight. Barnsley and Chesterfield's games are also being televised. If you have Sky Sports or the Sky app there will probably be multiple Sky+ channels but there seems to be only one Sky+ option in my IPTV Sky folder. Presumably it will have our game (as well as the Preston and SUFC channels in the EFL folder)
How have Sky ruined football? Genuine question. For me, the game itself is better in terms of quality, fitness, cultures, skill, grounds, pitches, training, rehab, player welfare, academy systems. Majority of that is down to the influx of TV money.
re subscriptions, its peoples choice whether to pay or not. Of course its greed, theyre a business, they have to make money for their shareholders. But as i said in an earlier thread, their subscription is the equivalent of buying 1 or no more than 2 home tickets for United home games each month. Benefit of the subscription is you get to see most games now (through the new deal) plus Premier league, plus all the other sports, plus entertainment...
Do you think United's ticket prices are fuelled by greed?
And at some point the European super league is inevitableThe wider issue here is that the game is more financially unviable than it has ever been. Almost every football club is losing vast quantities of money and being propped up by an owner. If you don't spend above your means and attempt to operate somewhat like a business. (like United last year) the TV companies scold you for being 'bad for the product'.Ticket prices keep going up despite our money being a fart in the ocean of football finance (relatively speaking) to the extent that the staple working class fans can't afford to watch some clubs.. Our influence as supporters in guiding the development of the game has wained significantly , unsurprisingly in line with the increase in TV money, and resultant TV company power: he who pays the piper calls the tune. This is TV's game now - not the spectator guided sport it was designed to be. Championship footballers are now multi millionaires. Premier League footballers have movie star/rock star status in terms of earnings. Compare what they earn as a % to the 12-20% of the tournament income the tennis players get. It's mad.
Most sports and forms of entertainment are run like standard capitalist enterprisers. Not football. For that reason Sky etc has done nothing much to increase its financial viability. It has made football players incredibly wealthy, changed the nature of football for spectators at matches, and made the financial burden far more onerous for owners, to such an extent that we have countries running clubs. It's biggest success, I'd argue, is in gaining global hegemony - the best players largely play for the richest clubs here now. At one time it was Italy or Spain.
Yeah , I knew it was that but given the club were giving deals out on NordVPN I assume everyone uses that?
To answer PaddysMad 's question I think it's £10 for a single match (was in an email "24/25 SUTV Live Packages Now On Sale" on 7th Aug)
That's the clubs own doing not sky's. Blaming sky would be like blaming your boss for you spending all you wages or pointless nft monkey artworkThe biggest trick that Sky ever pulled was convincing clubs and fans that their broadcasting rights money was a good thing.
Clubs now lose more money than ever and fans pay more money than ever. We watch the exact same players that we would have done without the Sky money (OK a few may have gone abroad but there'd be no difference really), the only effect has been that they're now 10 times richer, along with their agents.
The tech to detect if someone is using a VPN has got a bit smarter. I use Nord VPN to access BBC iPlayer from outside the UK, and it doesn't work half the time. Not saying a VPN won't work with SUTV, it probably will still work this season, but may not work forever. It would be a bit shit if you paid for a match pass and a VPN and it still didn't work.As above, you can't watch live on sutv anymore unless you're outside of UK (VPN?) in case you're not aware;
"Owing to changes made as part of the new broadcasting rights cycle, supporters in the UK, Republic of Ireland and Channel Isles can no longer stream live matches through SUTV.
Supporters based outside of these territories will be able to video stream Sheffield United matches this season, providing those matches are not being broadcasted in their region elsewhere. Video streaming packages are available as seasonal and one-off match passes."
Channel 427 for anyone on EEtv
View attachment 189993
Interesting debate to be had. I’m not sure had Sky not existed that we would necessarily still be in a world where our football leagues in England are the same as they were in the 70s (a time I guess you’re harking back to) but it’s an interesting “what might have been”.The biggest trick that Sky ever pulled was convincing clubs and fans that their broadcasting rights money was a good thing.
Clubs now lose more money than ever and fans pay more money than ever. We watch the exact same players that we would have done without the Sky money (OK a few may have gone abroad but there'd be no difference really), the only effect has been that they're now 10 times richer, along with their agents.
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