Singing Section?

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From working as a steward at Bramall lane during my university years, it was clear the main issue with fan safety was through drinking. The amount of issues that arose (and prob still does) because someone had a drink was much more than someone who hadn't. Anyhow, since fans like to have a drink before the match, I was suggesting that would you give up drinking beer just to go in a all standing section? I don't think the majority will which is why standing sections shouldn't be allowed.

I don't disagree that excessive drinking is a significant factor in crowd safety, but I don't really see the link with standing. If someone's excessively inebriated they should not be allowed into the ground to sit or stand. Those who have drunk only in moderation are as safe standing as sitting.

The perceived safety benefit of seating is that it prevents crowd surging and people being tampled or (historically) forced against perimeter fencing. However, that can be achieved equally well with additional barriers on a terrace. The safety benefit of standing is that a terrace can be evacuated much more quickly than a seated area, particularly now that there is no perimeter fencing.
 



Don't need standing to have a singing area and if standing were to be allowed it would only be half a dozen steps at the back. Just make the top half of the kop unreserved seating first come first served, at Forest years ago you sat where you wanted the seat was just a long plank. Some of the grounds I've stood in were horrific ............. when I think back to the crush getting off the pop side at the old baseball ground jeez and some of the lower league grounds were just mud banks littered with half house bricks Halifax and Carlisle spring to mind. Maybe I'm getting owd but do we really want to go back to that shit for the sake of mates being together to sing ? A better way has to be unreserved seating areas.
 
At rugby people drink in the ground and stand up safely.

Rugby, unlike football, hasn't had a history of crowd violence in this country. Rugby fans generally are better behaved when compared to football fans. The malarkey rugby types get up tends not to involved lashing out violently at the opposition's fans.
 
The malarkey rugby types get up tends not to involved lashing out violently at the opposition's fans.

Nah... having worked in a hotel which hosted Rugby Christmas parties, I can confidently state that more often than not, the malarkey involves olives and arsecracks.
 
Rugby fans also get away with a lot more than the police will tolerate from football fans, in my experience.
 
My hubby is into rugby so I've been a few times. Really, the atmosphere, it's rubbish. Ok, so fans get to sit side by side, but there's so little passion and it's all very friendly. I prefer the football rivalry to shine through for 90 minutes, and then have a peaceful journey home afterwards without the hooligan shenanigans.
 

But which set of fans need to be separated by a line of stewards, then police and then empty chairs? You've guessed it Football. If you ever went to watch England play Scotland in the six nations, fans will happily sit with each other without any violence but try doing that in a England vs Scotland football match.......
 
But which set of fans need to be separated by a line of stewards, then police and then empty chairs? You've guessed it Football. If you ever went to watch England play Scotland in the six nations, fans will happily sit with each other without any violence but try doing that in a England vs Scotland football match.......

I don't want to sit with opposition fans. The rivalry (within reason) is what helps make football great.
 

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