Simon Jordan - got McCabe right, getting Wilder right

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MiserableBlader said:
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Why is he getting wilder right ?

Wilder left because the prince told him we would only be able to sign loan players and that would be financed by selling 2 major players

CW said either we have one go at it or i leave

He left and we did exactly what the prince said to CW this time last year

In hindsight if we would have kept CW and had a sensible go at it for one season we would have cakewalked the league

Instead poundland princer sacked the manager who he hired after 3 months because he wasn't given what he was promised and we appointed a glorified Youth team coach

All this anti CW nonsense is BS yes he through a strop but he was also the best manager we have had or the second best ever

Those are FACTS
 
FallowfieldBlade said:
Why is he getting wilder right ?

Wilder left because the prince told him we would only be able to sign loan players and that would be financed by selling 2 major players

CW said either we have one go at it or i leave

He left and we did exactly what the prince said to CW this time last year

In hindsight if we would have kept CW and had a sensible go at it for one season we would have cakewalked the league

Instead poundland princer sacked the manager who he hired after 3 months because he wasn't given what he was promised and we appointed a glorified Youth team coach

All this anti CW nonsense is BS yes he through a strop but he was also the best manager we have had or the second best ever

Those are FACTS
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Cake walking the league isn’t a fact.
 
FallowfieldBlade said:
Why is he getting wilder right ?

Wilder left because the prince told him we would only be able to sign loan players and that would be financed by selling 2 major players

CW said either we have one go at it or i leave

He left and we did exactly what the prince said to CW this time last year

In hindsight if we would have kept CW and had a sensible go at it for one season we would have cakewalked the league

Instead poundland princer sacked the manager who he hired after 3 months because he wasn't given what he was promised and we appointed a glorified Youth team coach

All this anti CW nonsense is BS yes he through a strop but he was also the best manager we have had or the second best ever

Those are FACTS The genuine facts are in the accounts.
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There is a thread from Blades Way is it talking to an accountant about the accounts.
Wilder spunked away , what is it £114? million.
You can shout and scream and hissy fit and claim facts in bold and capitals.
But you'd still be #FakeNews
 
FallowfieldBlade said:
Why is he getting wilder right ?

Wilder left because the prince told him we would only be able to sign loan players and that would be financed by selling 2 major players

CW said either we have one go at it or i leave

He left and we did exactly what the prince said to CW this time last year

In hindsight if we would have kept CW and had a sensible go at it for one season we would have cakewalked the league

Instead poundland princer sacked the manager who he hired after 3 months because he wasn't given what he was promised and we appointed a glorified Youth team coach

All this anti CW nonsense is BS yes he through a strop but he was also the best manager we have had or the second best ever

Those are FACTS
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We could only afford loans after he pissed 120 million away on shite ,bit rich asking for money after he demanded the parachute money for Brewster then didn't play him
 
Sean Thornton said:
Cake walking the league isn’t a fact.
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Look at the league Sean it is the worst championship in donkeys years look at the points total Fulham have they've barely scraped 2pts a game and are been hailed the best championship team ever

Of course it isn't a fact but it is a bonkers decision to go from a proven manager with a proven squad the day wilder left is the day our downturn properly started
 
MiserableBlader said:
There is a thread from Blades Way is it talking to an accountant about the accounts.
Wilder spunked away , what is it £114? million.
You can shout and scream and hissy fit and claim facts in bold and capitals.
But you'd still be #FakeNews
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He didnt spunk anything he bought assets some depreciated and some appreciated

Bogle / Ramsdale went up in value
Mcburnie/Berge/Brewster went up in value

He also earnt us another £100 million plus from finishing 9th
 
Frank the tank said:
We could only afford loans after he pissed 120 million away on shite ,bit rich asking for money after he demanded the parachute money for Brewster then didn't play him
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The sensible thing would be to keep the manager that bought those players

Instead we brought ion the exact opposite manager who didn't even think Brewster should be in the squad and Bogle shouldn't start
 
MiserableBlader said:
There is a thread from Blades Way is it talking to an accountant about the accounts.
Wilder spunked away , what is it £114? million.
You can shout and scream and hissy fit and claim facts in bold and capitals.
But you'd still be #FakeNews
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Didn't he more than double that money and then see us get 30 million of it back when we sold Ramsdale - or is that a different Wilder? Not to mention leaving the current squad who looked for from terrible once we got a competent person in charge? As you say:" You can shout and scream and hissy fit and claim facts in bold and capitals. But you'd still be #FakeNews".
 
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FallowfieldBlade said:
Look at the league Sean it is the worst championship in donkeys years look at the points total Fulham have they've barely scraped 2pts a game and are been hailed the best championship team ever

Of course it isn't a fact but it is a bonkers decision to go from a proven manager with a proven squad the day wilder left is the day our downturn properly started
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The downturn had already begun. Have a look at the results and league table.

I’m not a McBurnie knocker but you’re taking the piss when you say his value increased. When did that happen?
 
nopigfansintown said:
Didn't he more than double that money and then give 30 million of it back when we sold Ramsdale - or is that a different Wilder? Not to mention leaving the current squad who looked for from terrible once we got a competent person in charge? As you say:" You can shout and scream and hissy fit and claim facts in bold and capitals. But you'd still be #FakeNews".
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Sorry Wilder doesn't take credit for the sales or the fact that players like Bogle are actually decent now. Any successful signing you can ignore. But the failures are all Wilders fault AND prove he was never a blade.
 

Sean Thornton said:
The downturn had already begun. Have a look at the results and league table.

I’m not a McBurnie knocker but you’re taking the piss when you say his value increased. When did that happen?
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Down in value sorry ****


Of course but we are only ever going to be a bottom end premier league team at best


Look at dyche with burnley they went down stuck with the best manager they have ever had and came back up

They will now do the exact same as us I predict
 
FallowfieldBlade said:
Look at the league Sean it is the worst championship in donkeys years look at the points total Fulham have they've barely scraped 2pts a game and are been hailed the best championship team ever

Of course it isn't a fact but it is a bonkers decision to go from a proven manager with a proven squad the day wilder left is the day our downturn properly started
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With Boro's improvement and our improvement under Hecky (Wilder ball) it's a hard argument to make that we wouldn't be challenging the autos under Wilder. The shit pre season and crap fitness of the players wouldn't be a factor for starters. Nor would we have blown the Jan budget on sacking cheque book Slav.
 
FallowfieldBlade said:
He didnt spunk anything he bought assets some depreciated and some appreciated

Bogle / Ramsdale went up in value
Mcburnie/Berge/Brewster went up in value

He also earnt us another £100 million plus from finishing 9th
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yes he took us up through the leagues but on the way he threatened to leave on three separate occasions when he was ultimately rewarded with a new and improved contract.
he bought players he did not play
although one of the two players yiu quote was sold for a profit overall, his premiership signings were terrible, the facts being that only Berge is currently in the team and they have all lost value way way in excess of the profit gained by ramsdale
Freeman £6m
moose £10m
mcburnie ( guesstimate £15m, when he is sold for £5m ) etc etc.
he refused to change tactics
he refused to accept responsibility

he also lost the respect of his fellow Utd supporters by walking out of the back door when the going got tough and it got tough because he was inacapable of managing in the premiership
 
FallowfieldBlade said:
He didnt spunk anything he bought assets some depreciated and some appreciated

Bogle / Ramsdale went up in value
Mcburnie/Berge/Brewster went up in value

He also earnt us another £100 million plus from finishing 9th
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I'm presuming that's a typo and you meant to say down....? And is that the Bogle Wilder hardly played?

Wilder wasted millions that has put the club in the position we are now, the final insult was not walking and hanging out for a pay-off, simply because he thought he deserved one....despite holding us to ransom on at least 2 occasions for a new contract.
 
nopigfansintown said:
Didn't he more than double that money and then give 30 million of it back when we sold Ramsdale - or is that a different Wilder? Not to mention leaving the current squad who looked for from terrible once we got a competent person in charge? As you say:" You can shout and scream and hissy fit and claim facts in bold and capitals. But you'd still be #FakeNews".
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His job was to keep us in the PL when we got there. After a great first season his tactics were nullified. Yes his managerial skills enabled us to bank over £200m, but half of that went down the pan on signings that haven’t lived up to their fees. Whatever went on regards finance, when the going got tough he seemed to spend more time criticising everyone else or holding his head in his hands. We were going down and he couldn’t hack it.

As for ‘Boro, l wouldn’t write them off yet but the same criticism will be there if they do fail. Burnley job? Not if they look like going down. Seasons end maybe.
 
Torrix1889 said:
I'm presuming that's a typo and you meant to say down....? And is that the Bogle Wilder hardly played?

Wilder wasted millions that has put the club in the position we are now, the final insult was not walking and hanging out for a pay-off, simply because he thought he deserved one....despite holding us to ransom on at least 2 occasions for a new contract.
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He put us in a position where we had a fantastic championship squad with best young players in that league

Prince forced his hand which led to wilder leaving

Wilder with this squad = TOP2
 
Surely Wilder forced his hand by threats to resign three times until he got a pay off.

so you expected our owners to give him more money for loan deals to try and keep us up when he had already wasted millions on players.
That is why Wilder threw his toys out of the pram as he had no one else to blame
 
Sean Thornton said:
His job was to keep us in the PL when we got there. After a great first season his tactics were nullified. Yes his managerial skills enabled us to bank over £200m, but half of that went down the pan on signings that haven’t lived up to their fees. Whatever went on regards finance, when the going got tough he seemed to spend more time criticising everyone else or holding his head in his hands. We were going down and he couldn’t hack it.

As for ‘Boro, l wouldn’t write them off yet but the same criticism will be there if they do fail. Burnley job? Not if they look like going down. Seasons end maybe.
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His job was to get us out of league one


He got us to 9th in the premier league
 
bertieblade said:
Surely Wilder forced his hand by threats to resign three times until he got a pay off.

so you expected our owners to give him more money for loan deals to try and keep us up when he had already wasted millions on players.
That is why Wilder threw his toys out of the pram as he had no one else to blame
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Those threats were made because of what was been said by the prince in regards to the transfers in the summer at the time

CW said If we stick to the plan i will stay in a Radio Sheff interview I recall

The prince didn't want too and here we are
 

FallowfieldBlade said:
Those threats were made because of what was been said by the prince in regards to the transfers in the summer at the time

CW said If we stick to the plan i will stay in a Radio Sheff interview I recall

The prince didn't want too and here we are
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